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  1. mikeraphone

    mikeraphone Porn Surfer

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    Okay so I'm not sure how this will be taken. Its been awhile since I've been on the forums. Anyway though, I was wondering if anybody would be interested in writing a story with me? I'm open to ideas as well as have a few of my own that I would wanna try and work on. If this is not allowed or anything I'm sorry in advance to the mods. So yea, if you are interested just leave a comment or shoot a pm which ever you prefer.


    P.s The reason I'm looking for someone to write with is not because I feel I lack a creative talent or anything like that. To be 100% serious I have trouble writing about the sexual act.(and yes I know some of you are laughing at the thought of someone wanting to write a sex story but cant write about the part people are usaully going to read it for....) I can sit there all day and think of a plot and characters and describing them and all of the other essentials. but anytime i try to get into the sex I read it over to myself and then end up deleting it all and getting to frustrated and give up.

    idk maybe this is a dumb idea but if anyone wants to offer help or be interested in trying this with me I'm game.
     
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  2. ejls

    ejls Siren of the Seaway

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    A lot of us are not laughing at you. It's hard to write a scene when the basic movement is always the same. Then you become afraid that your actions were exactly the same in the last story your wrote. Trust me - a lot of us have been where you are.
     
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  3. mikeraphone

    mikeraphone Porn Surfer

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    Well that's a relief, I had become really frustrated with it. After I had read a few stories today I decided i wanted to give it another shot and try to see if I can start a short series (longer if I can make it work).

    Except this time i wanted to approach it how I approach music. I work with other artists where Each of us would do a verse to the same instrumental. but you would work with each other providing ideas, edits and things along those lines.

    I thought maybe approaching it that way with a story it would help and give insight on how to approach it.
     
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  4. wantsomefun

    wantsomefun Storyteller and Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    LOL?

    The only laughter I hear is my own, when I re-read some of my older stuff. I actually thought I was doing a decent job back then. I've learned enough over the last four and half years spent writing here to be better than I was, but not as good as I want to be.

    Practice is what it takes. Very few people have natural talent that shines the first time they do something, be it swimming, playing a musical instrument, writing a story, or, well, having sex.

    Most of my stories have sex scenes. I struggle to make each one new and different, but there are only so many ways you can describe the old in and out.

    One thing you could try is to make the circumstances new. Figure out a new reason or a new place for a couple to have a sexual encounter. Invent new people. While all fiction is based in some way on reality, it is still fiction. You can make stuff up. Personally, I wouldn't go in the direction of a two-penised man and a woman with three vaginas, but there's a lot of inventive ground to cover between extremes like that and the things you've read, written, or done before.

    Collaborations have pros and cons. If you check the threads related to the last two CAWs, you'll see a lot of discussion about writing partnerships, and the stories that resulted from eight of them. These are the links to those two Writers' Challenges: https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=342771, https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=345792 , https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=349914 and https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=352720.


    You may have more success finding a partner after you've posted something of your own. Get active in the forum community. Read other people's stuff and comment on it. Make contacts.

    Good luck.
     
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  5. mikeraphone

    mikeraphone Porn Surfer

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    I see what you're saying, I'm gonna start brainstorming tonight on this Idea i have been wanting to try. I definitely will be much more active on here as well. I'm gonna try and post a chapter by tomorrow night or so
    (weird sleep schedule and a lot of free time lol) where would you recommend posting it to the forum or the stories portion of the site or both?
     
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  6. wantsomefun

    wantsomefun Storyteller and Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    Post it both places for more exposure, but on the Sex Stories site, prepare yourself for the possibility of being troll-voted into oblivion and/or receiving comments that look like a pedophile's Craigslist ad. On the forum, you won't get as many hits, but the comments you get will probably be insightful and helpful to you as a writer.

    A word of caution: don't rush. You sound like you're really enthused about writing a story, and that's great, but it's often wise to set the manuscript aside for a day or two and then go through it again. You'll find typos and other errors that could detract from the reader's enjoyment, and you'll find passages that could be re-written to make them better.

    You're not on a schedule. If your first chapter is popular, people will clamor for more, but you may be more successful and more highly rated by the readers if you take a breath and re-read your work critically before posting the first part or any subsequent chapters.

    On the Sex Stories site, you can't change anything in your story after it's been posted. Here, you can answer readers' questions, add to your story thread, or even post a revised version of your piece.

    Don't be afraid to ask questions. Don't be afraid to get a trusted friend to proofread your story for you. Don't feel foolish for reading the thing aloud to hear how it sounds -- you'll find awkward dialog and phrasing that way. Take the extra time to make your stuff as good as you can.
     
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  7. snowleopard3200

    snowleopard3200 Guardian of the Snow

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    Ejls and WSF have covered anything I could say and then some save for one idea you may wish to consider:

    You speak of being a musician, why not practice writing a short sex scene based on the emotional and sensual scores conducted within a framework of melody personified unto totality of harmony in action.

    This is what helped me breach the initial barrier I hit, as you have, in writing sex scenes: moving past the physical and into a mixture of sensual, emotional and the physical (to whatever degree you are comfortable).

    Write one line, from one participants view, and see how you can make it a paragraph combining the three parts I speak of.

    Personal lesson I have learned: take your time writing it, let it flow and merge with the story, and seek to avoid going overboard on the descriptions when it is not needed (such as I am all too prone to do).

    If a scene in the story requires a simple: "The two joined in the eternal dance of the universe, two bodies becoming united as one until all had been done." then fine.

    It it has to be more: "As the moonlight cascaded upon her soft skin, I beheld the slight quiver of her body and the playful pursing of her lips in anticipation of our passion soon to be shared; her eyes danced and played in the music of the heavens and reminded me again as to why she won my heart so long ago." Then fine as well.

    Let the story guide you, and go back over it a second time a few days later to expand or tighten up as need be.

    Also, don't be afraid to ask for someone to be a proofreader and/or editor.

    Undoubtedly as you can see, I stink at aspects of grammar, so for my tales, a proof-reader is a necessity.

    Above all: have fun.:excited:
     
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  8. mikeraphone

    mikeraphone Porn Surfer

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    I've been seeing a lot of what your talking about on the stories side. Not gonna lie i laugh every time I see those comments.

    On a more serious not you are right in saying I'm really excited about this idea. I was up till about 5 AM this morning working on figuring out the general idea of what I want to write about. I have about 90% of it down. I do know for a fact I'm gonna need someone to proof read, but not to sure about asking anyone I personally know due to the fact none of them have and interest in this kind of writing. If anyone knows of someone who is a good proof reader for when I do manage to get the first chapter done or interested in that area in general suggestions are welcome.

    I'm gonna be working on the first chapter for most of today into tonight because i work from 4-midnight,( boring job with a lot of free time) so i wanna try and have a rough version written that i can then go off of and continue to fix.



    Thank you for that advice, I really like the way you explained it. I'm not to sure what my actual writing style per say is. I know almost a year or so ago I had tried writing something and the idea sort of fell through and I never completed it. If its okay with you guys im gonna post it in here to see what you guys think. I know it probably has a lot of grammar issues but I'm going to try and fix most of them before i post it.


    Thank you guys again for all the help and suggestions it means a lot and I'm going to try and take all that you have suggested and put it to work with this first chapter. Hopefully it all comes out the way I'm hoping it will.
     
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  9. snowleopard3200

    snowleopard3200 Guardian of the Snow

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    Post what you write and you will receive honest critiques of it; just be warned, most here are brutally honest and compliment what is right and point out what is wrong.
     
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  10. wantsomefun

    wantsomefun Storyteller and Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    True. When you post, make it clear you want comments in either an intro to the story or a note after it.

    There's a long-dormant social group called "Volunteer Proofreader/Editor Program" -- https://forum.xnxx.com/group.php?groupid=855. You could post a message there to ask for help, or you could make your plea here.

    No one can effectively proofread their own work. The brain likes order, so it may subconsciously ignore the errors it made. Showing a sex story to a co-worker or family member does raise its own set of problems, obviously, so this might be a better place to do it.

    You'll catch a lot of your own mistakes or weak spots in the story when you re-read it after the red mist of your enthusiasm dies down. I find a large number of problems in my own work if I ignore it for a day or two and then go back.

    Trying to write a 20,000 word masterpiece in your first attempt may be setting yourself up for failure. A lot of the more popular forum stories fall in the 5000 - 15,000 word range, which is plenty for most readers to absorb in one sitting. Often, if you need more than roughly 10,000 words to tell your tale, it's a good idea to break it up into chapters. You can look at some of the links in snow's signature for examples, check out Daddycums' 100 chapter novel "Allison and the Primdales" or range around in the recommended writers thread.

    Again, good luck. You probably won't succeed in writing a classic on your first try, and that's fine, as long as you enjoy doing it and learn something.
     
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  11. mikeraphone

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    Thanks for the advice :), I started writing while I was at work today, just got home a few minutes ago. I definitely intend to break it up into chapters(if it does well and there is a demand for more chapters that is.) I'm most likely still going to finish the whole thing whether it does well or not ( for my own benefit and the suggestions and thoughts on where it went bad. )

    I'm not really sure what people are into, like I know what I'm into which is an actual plot and characters that are developed throughout the progress.
    but not sure if everyone else would rather it just be sex....
     
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  12. snowleopard3200

    snowleopard3200 Guardian of the Snow

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    Two bits of advice:

    You will not please all readers of your story, so write what YOU wish to write about.

    Post all chapters of your story onto one thread, this serves the readers in easing the problem of hunting for individual chapter/threads; allows for more commentaries to be centralized and allows for more exposure unto the viewers as the chapters advance.

    Put a link to the thread in your signature as well.

    If you would like an example of how I broke down two stories into chapters click on the links in my signature for: To Dream of Dragons, or 'Winter War.'


    Mind one matter on the total reads tally each thread has on the far right of the stories main page: many new authors may get discouraged in this count not reaching high numbers after a few days; name recognition and exposure of your stories will come with time.

    There are exceptions, in which some authors hit it with one story and will see their readership soar for one story, but not another. Many of my tales seldom reach past 3000 reads before I let them go over the horizon in the story section.

    no matter what, keep writing, keep asking questions and keep practicing.
     
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  13. mikeraphone

    mikeraphone Porn Surfer

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    I'm definitely going to be doing all of that. I understand what you mean about not pleasing everyone, I just wasn't sure if the way I'm going about how I'm writing this will be good or bad. I just finished typing up what I had wrote today. so far its about 1100 words so far and i still haven't got to a sex scene.... I'm not sure if that's bad or good.

    also on a much more random note I just wanna say I'm happy that I sort of paid attention in high school because the whole "rough draft" idea really does work. (not that I did it while i was in school, but stiil)

    I think (maybe its just me) but writing it all out on paper and then typing it helps me

    A. Have my words come out cause I can write faster than I type

    B. Allows me to catch any spelling errors as well as lines that don't make to much sense.

    C. Elaborate more in certain areas that I feel maybe lacking or just need to be rephrased in general.

    the first chapter is still being worked on, but i think its coming along pretty well. I dont wanna post it up untill its done but if anyone is available to give it a read and let me know how its coming so far let me know and i'll PM it to you. I know it was said before, I'm not expecting to have a classic written on my first try, but I do wanna try and make it as interestign and understandable as possible. As well as make sure I'm conveying the right emotions and the way the chacters are interacting and speaking as authentic as possible.

    I know that when I read it I can hear the tone in their voice and see their faces, but not sure how I did when it came to writing it....
     
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  14. snowleopard3200

    snowleopard3200 Guardian of the Snow

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    If you ever want a laugh at the mistakes to avoid, look up my series of Cat-girl Charity, I wondered how anyone could even read them and remain sane.:rolleyes:
     
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  15. mikeraphone

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    I couldn't laugh at your work. Just like I wouldn't want someone to laugh at my first attempt. but I will most certainly check it out :)

    I have a feeling the entire first chapter is going to be around 8000 maybe 10,000 words total. I finally figured out exactly where the first sex scene is going to go. To be honest I'm a bit nervous about how that part will come out cause I do wanna make sure I do it right.

    Anyone interested in proof reading it when its all said and done before I make a thread on the forums or on the story site in general for that matter?
     
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  16. darthel0101

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    Coming from a reader of the Cat-Girl stories and a friend of Snow, ENJOY a laugh at her antics and the flow of the story - they are MEANT to be fun.

    Read the stories and see where you might have done something different - THAT is one way (probably the best way) of learning YOUR voice.

    RE the length of the chapters: tell the story the way that you want to tell it. If it takes 8,000 words to tell one chapter, finish it at 8,000 and do not try to push it to 9,000. If you find that you are unable to finish a chapter in under 15,000 words, don't sweat it; those who read because they want to read will still read it anyway. One point that I try to make to those writing in chapters - FINISH the chapter, do not leave it as a cliffhanger. The cliffhanger might draw some back but the completed chapters will draw more because of the satisfaction of the read.

    When you think that you have finished your first chapter, set it aside for a few days and, when coming back to proof it, read it from the END UP. This breaks the pattern in your own mind and forces you to actually READ the story. You will find typos, grammar errors, malapropisms, all SORTS of little beasties that crept into your work while you weren't looking. After correcting THOSE, post it here for commentary.

    There is nothing wrong with posting a 'beta version' requesting input and after the story is completed, posting a complete story as a separate thread. Two authors have done something similar: snowleopard3200 with his To Dream Of Dragons II and Wolf_Knight with his Modern Mage.
     
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  17. wantsomefun

    wantsomefun Storyteller and Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    All good points.

    I catch a lot of dumb mistakes in my stuff by reading it aloud. Any read-through gives you a chance to catch errors, but hearing the story as you read it, making yourself say it, lets you find awkward dialog, bad phrasing, and even holes or mistakes in your plot.

    The thing about chapter stories is that they often don't get completed. I'm guilty of it myself. I started a series about two years ago called "The Hunger", and Part Three isn't done.

    A cliffhanger ending isn't necessarily a bad thing if you post the next chapter within a short period of time. Making fans wait too long isn't good.
     
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  18. snowleopard3200

    snowleopard3200 Guardian of the Snow

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    WSF here gives some good advice that I can second with this:

    I often prefer having a multi-part story completed before I start to post it in the forum story area; To Dream of Dragons III was the exception to the rule but in hindsight it would have been better if I waited to finish it.

    As you grow into your writing style/s, some of your stories may take on a life of their own TDOD III was mine for that to occur: I never intended to write a 100+ chapter Saga.

    Pace yourself as you go along and find your own rhythm and style.

    Also search through the older threads, especially for the various CAW entries. Often among the commentary you will discover pointers that many influence you one way or another, answer a question you had considered or give you insights into new ways of doing a story.

    Never be afraid to comment on a forum story, this is the way we all grow and learn.
     
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  19. mikeraphone

    mikeraphone Porn Surfer

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    I'm honestly just guessing at the length I'm basing this off of how much I have written so far and how much more I wish to fit in.

    I'm going to be reading snows stories today while im doing nothing at work lol

    as well as writing some more in my notebook for my story. my pattern has become write it all in my notebook then when i get home from work after relaxing a bit i sit down and start typing it all out. I'm catching alot of mistakes as well as parts that just do not flow right



    I did the reading a lot thing last night and i agree it helps to find places that do not sound right or just do not make sense in general. thank you for that advice


    I have no clue what my style is, but I'm feeling pretty comfortable with how I'm writing it right now. idk if its comparable or not to anything someone else has written.

    but I would like to thank all of you have are being so helpful with your suggestions. you all have really helped me and feel better about trying this. so thank you once again :)
     
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