He passed a health insurance law, not health care, and a terrible one at that.

And which of his policies did that ? or was it the natural ebb and flow of an economy recovering from a recession.

He Stayed in Iraq, and left on the timetable set out by the Bush administration. Then sent those troops to afghanistan.

Yeah. I forgot that was Obama, oh wait no, it was intelligence from Pakistan.

By bailing out a failed business with your money.

I thought that was Libya?

I suppose that's good if he did that, after all the people coming back maimed from afghanistan since increasing the number of troops there, I suppose it's the least he could do.

Ha!

Because the alternative was a guy that looked a flight of stairs away from a heart attack and his likely replacement was a dipshit from Alaska that no one had heard of.

And the second time because the alternative was a Mormon that appeared to lack empathy, usually the one quality that makes Mormons tolerable.

 

Since DDave is in England I am surprised at his feeling the need to comment here but since he did I will say his understand of those issues is obviously lacking. Hence, I choose to reserve any serious comment for an American.

 

Actually, Dave's comments above are quite accurate.

 

An appraisal from a Hitler's body not found conspiracy advocate. Get serious.

 

Ha!

Because that's the only choice we had. It's hard to soar with eagles when you're surrounded by buzzards. It's also hard to pick a stud race horse out of a field of jackasses.

 

Ha!

Because that's the only choice we had. It's hard to soar with eagles when you're surrounded by buzzards. It's also hard to pick a stud race horse out of a field of jackasses.

 

Ha

The response of our economic planners in the Bush Administration was a $170 billion economic stimulus package which took the form of tax rebate checks of $500 per household. It had little or no stimulating effect. Nevertheless, the Obama administration came up with a similar gift to each householder with similar results. The Bush administration under Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson did come up with one successful program, the $700 billion fund, known by its initials TARP, the Troubled Asset Relief Program, which saved the entire U.S. financial system from bankruptcy. The public thinks of it erroneously as a bailout. Instead of buying the troubled mortgages and derivatives from the banks, et. al., it lent enormous sums to the banks and insurance companies which urgently needed to raise cash or succumb to bankruptcy. Much of the money TARP lent has been paid back. But it did not create a single job except for new TARP bureaucracy. Unfortunately, the banks still have hundreds of billions of troubled mortgages. If the economy should dip again, TARP will once again have to come to the rescue.

The response of the incoming Obama administration to the recession was the $785 billion Recovery Act of 2009 (commonly referred to as Obama’s economic stimulus plan). Much of it consisted of grants to rescue a number of states that were facing budget deficits as a result of a spending “bubble” coupled with a general decline in tax revenues. No doubt, transfers to the states enabled them to continue existing programs. The bill allocated $288 billion to transfers to the states and tax cuts and rebates, $224 billion for education and health care and extended unemployment benefits, and made $275 billion available for federal contracts, grants and loans. It does not look like a program to create jobs, and it has created few jobs and none of them permanent. Some of the money went to road and transportation improvements, school buildings and stadia. It created some jobs. Perhaps this is the reason the administration claims it has created or “saved” millions of jobs. Unfortunately, the jobs will end as soon as the money runs out.

He ended the war in Iraq and sent more troops to Afghanistan.

I don't remember the American people asking him to do anything in Egypt.

I guess you can give him all the credit for killing Osama, if they did. No proof has ever been shown. I would attribute it to the intelligence agencies.

President Bush bailed out the auto industry at the end of his presidency by passing the Recovery Act. In the bill, it gave the auto industry money to keep operating instead of going bankrupt.

President Obama presided over the new bill which allowed them to keep using the money and negotiated the deals with the union workers. The union workers are regarded by many as the reason the industry is in harder times than they would normally be because of the economy.

Yea he increased support to veterans. You know locking them out of open air monument and things like that.

Reformed Wall Street my fucking hairy ass. That hilarious!!

He was elected the first time in the hope that the bullshit he was spouting was true. He was elected the second time because we didn't have a choice. It's hard to pick a stud race horse from a field of jackasses!

 

*sigh*.....there is no hope.

 

"President Bush bailed out the auto industry at the end of his presidency by passing the Recovery Act. In the bill, it gave the auto industry money to keep operating instead of going bankrupt. "
this was the exact same bill that alloted funding for clean or "green" energy research as well
but since it was an idea and a bill done by bush wht was obama blamed when only a few companies failed and noone was willing to pay attention to those that made huge leaps?

"Yea he increased support to veterans. You know locking them out of open air monument and things like that."
that was accomplished equaly by both sides and their personal beliefs and arrogances, the republicans had vowed that they would ensure that he was a 1 term president remember?


obama did expand funds for veterans services but the administration in the VA has re-appropriated those funds for their own use

i wont comment on the bin laden thing because noone would believe the truth anyway

 

In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades.

 

First off... I don't believe that you were ever a republican. You can't get on here repeat that same ole tired democratic rant--that republicans are racist, mean spirited exclusionists.

Not only was the very reason that the republican party formed centered around the idea of freeing slaves it is still centered around the very same ideal today. (Even though the party doesn't have the balls to say that out loud, and I don't know why.)

The Democrats have always been the party that wanted to keep minorities enslaved and they still are today. The democrats know that by keeping their constituents on welfare they not only keep their votes forever but their constituents are not capable of more anyway. To me this sounds more racist than anything. The very belief that minorities do not have the ability to rise above poverty and thereby need the welfare program is about the most racist political stance ever.

The democrats also typically support abortion. But isn't that just another way to control the population of minorities? Abortion is used by minorities almost 7 to 1.

Yet we are the racists?

The Republicans believe that every man, woman and Child, has the right to pursue their own dream. Not just the elite, but every American. We believe that everybody has the right to pursue their happiness not just the elite. We think that the right to own your own business and to own your own property is a benefit that everybody deserves. Not just the rich and the elite.

We are not the racists here, and if you really had been a republican you would know that.

 

rick i was pointing out the double standard that the typical republican tends to hold as their gospel
yes obama did add to the spending but it was initiated under bush
but bush was also the same president that said that companies needed to send manufacturing and tech jobs overseas because the american workforce lacked the education to empower that industry
he praised them for outsourcing to india instead of telling them to train americans?????


and john you do realize that the original founders of the republican party were wealthy slave owners?
and before anyone spouts that same rhetoric that licoln started the republican party i can tell you that that is bullshit
yes lincoln did become thier first elected president after he switched parties from whig to republican
and to answer the thought that they were anti slavery that also is false the wanted to stop allowing the expansion of slavery into the newly settled kansas and nebraska areas where the open lands meant more of a threat in the competition in agriculture and timber

and if the republicans realy wanted for everyone to be able to provide for themselves they would not stiffel the poor when they try to get rich by raising fuel prices falsely

 

The Republican Party wants everyone to become rich, but it wants them to become rich by their own efforts, and not by getting money from hard working, law abiding, middle class tax payers.

Hey! With a line like that I could write Republican campaign speeches. :excited:

 

DL that is absolute bullshit
they take more money from the middle class than any other social group
every product they sell is targeted to the middle class and since the refuse to allow a tax increase on their own kind those increases must be made up for bt the middle class
also since the repubs love to jack up profits but not wages who gets the shaft?

they want to get rich without ever working for it or spending their own money to do it

 

Same old tired bull shit.
Democrats thing they are always right and their party can do no harm.
Republicans think their party is always right and their party can do no harm.

People need to learn how to read. People need to accept the facts.
Those democrats that rant against the republicans could transfer the words democrat and republican in their posts and it would be just as true.
Same with the republicans.
Both sides are guilty of doing the same things. People have just decided to look over and cover up the problems with their party.

Maybe someday we will have honest politicians and honest voters. It will be after democrats and republicans have destroyed this country. Seems like most people would rather see this country destroyed than admit their party might be wrong.

 

Amen to that. I think you might have just uncovered the real problem. Not that anyone will listen.

 

That's it!

Can't spout your mindless bullshit when you're presented with facts can you?

 

Once again you have copied and pasted an argument you found on the internet without attributing it. What I am quoting from your comment was written by Raymond Richman, on June 28, 2010.

http://www.idealtaxes.com/post3165.shtml

It was easy for me to tell where Richman's commentary left off, and where yours began acook02, from the quality of the writing. At least Richman also criticized the Republicans.

When Barack Obama was inaugurated in January 2009 the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent, and rising. By the end of June 2010 it was 9.5 percent. Thus it was easy to argue that Obama's policies were not working.

Any economic policy, and any change in economic policy benefits some people at the expense of others. People favor policies that they think will benefit them, and the kind of people they like and identify with.

My instincts are to favor the Keynesian policies that ended the Great Depression. However, when Franklin Roosevelt was inaugurated in 1933 he had several advantages Barack Obama did not have in January 2009. The national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product was substantially lower. The United States was the world's leading creditor country. Since the administration of Ronald Reagan we have been the world's leading debtor country. In 1933 the United States was an oil exporting country. Now we import about 70 percent of the oil we consume. Back then nearly half of what was manufactured in the world was manufactured in the United States. Now we import much of what we consume.

These problems would inhibit the efforts of a Republican president and a Republican Congress to create robust economic conditions. The Republican panacea for the economy is to cut taxes for the rich. George W. Bush already did that. The results were disappointing for anyone who is not rich.

 

I read no further than your "I don't believe you were ever a Republican" charge. What you believe is of no importance to me. I was a Republican for many years. I have seen many twists and turns in both parties over my years. I will never again be a Republican or vote Republican. If you want to communicate with someone, NEVER start off by calling them a liar. Now run along sonny...

 

The truth is often racist. I have known people on welfare. I did not like them. Nevertheless it was obvious to me that they were not capable of entering the middle class. No amount of hard work would have made them capable.

If the welfare system was ended the homeless population would increase, like it did when Reagan was president. Welfare recipients who found jobs would have found them by competing for a shrinking number of unskilled jobs. Their competition would bid down the wages for those jobs.