Thanks for the great response, EroticaLady!

What was it that he did so well?

Let's just hope they get to see this post! (Btw have you ever been hired by a hockey player before? If so, how was it?)

 

May I ask?

I travel to New Orleans, Miami and Las Vegas pretty frequently, and I've noticed something about escort ads. Many of the girls either directly, or by implication seem to do gentlemen only. Are girls, or couples considered more difficult? it seems as if the price is right there would be no problem, but maybe I'm missing the point. I just cruise right by an ad that says "upscale gentleman only," what's wrong with upscale ladies? Sweetcreekcowgirl.

 

Did you ever give your client rimjobs?
What was the most common sex act/fetish your clients requested?

 

Just techniques and unique ways to play. I had a guy that taught me how to give a foot job from start to finish and also got me to occasionally enjoy some foot play. He had a massive foot fetish but I have to admit that after the weirdness it became a bit fun.

I learned how to relax so that I could lie on my back, hang my head over the edge of the bed and have my throat lightly fucked. I'm not talking about the over the top porn where the girl is gagging and spitting up while some guy jackhammers her but I got to a point where I was very comfortable and could take something a bit more than a gentle slow thrust.

A surprising request - handjobs. A lot of guys enjoyed getting jerked off. Not the whole session mind you, generally just foreplay but in some cases they liked that for the finale. I learned different grips, techniques and ways to both delay and hasten their finish.

I got into the whole pro domme deal and learned how to properly top or dom a guy. That included CBT, body worship (feet / ass were the top parts), pee play (me on them), my technique with a strap-on was GREATLY enhanced, etc.

But as I said early on in this thread, I also learned a lot more about people and why not to judge a book by its cover. I learned how to better read someone, how to hone in on their non-verbal actions, better listening skills, patience, etc. There was a lot of self-reflection and deeper understand of myself and others that I gained through that job that have given me a significant leg up. I won't lie, I have used seduction as a means to enhance my current career. It's not over the top, it's very subtle and it's not leading someone on but better understanding the very art of seduction to change someone's mind was huge.

 

Literally everything. There's no one thing he did better. When escorts get together to talk, it's generally not that salacious. We had a forum we used in Denver much like this one. We used it to verify potential clients between each other, alert girls to scammers, potentially unhealthy and dangerous men and to just help each other out (or start endless drama because we're girls AND we're whores).

But this guy got the royal treatment. He saw a lot of the girls. And every single one of them was a puddle of goo after he was done with them. The fact I got to see him 3 times was just mind boggling. I literally had to beg him to stop one time because my insides were getting sore from the duration and severity of the orgasm. I was left in tears once the orgasm was so intense. I was just overwhelmed and literally was sobbing it was so over the top.

This guy was a serious narcissist but it could be overlooked because of how good he was in bed. From his tongue to his fingers to how he fucked when he fucked. He was just hands down the most skilled lover I have ever had by a wide margin. The #2 on my list is so far removed that it's not fair to call them a #2. This guys deal was less about his orgasm. His fetish was literally around focusing on the woman. He did that with every woman. He'd pay for 2 hours and just make them cum over and over and over again. That was his thing. Don't get me wrong, he let you know how good he was and was all about him when it was talking. Even when he was driving you insane sexually he was talking about how good he was, how he was making you cum, how it was his tongue / his cock / his hands and so on that was making us squeal in delight.

It's just very difficult to describe because literally everything he did was amazing. From a physical sexual experience, he was a god among men. Every woman should have one experience with a guy like that. It literally changes you. I saw him three times and each time I was biting my lip and smiling to myself for more than a week after seeing him.

I won't ever disclose who my clients were but I had quite a few local celebrities from Denver including a pair of professional athletes who were regulars. But no sport or team affiliation will be mentioned.

 

Mainly because girls are not our market. To be perfectly honest, I had only heard of a rumor of a woman seeking an escort but never anything substantial. It's just not what is generally sought out. Thus girls would never focus on that. You also have to consider that some women won't go gay-for-pay. I would have, but I'm bi-sexual anyways and have actually had two relationships with women over the years (for the record I strongly prefer men but I do have a fleeting attraction to women).

Couples, however, are very difficult or at least can be. I only did one couple and then swore off of it. A lot of guys are not thinking when they hire a girl to join him and the wife. The wife may very well be on-board until a girl who is prettier, better at sex and fulfills the fantasy shows up and the guy practically forgets about his wife. I'm not saying all men do that but that was my experience and that was an oft-repeated experience from other hookers as well. One girl even had to cut short an appointment because the wife broke down in tears and started yelling at her husband. That was a legendary story for about a year before a new one took its place.

But again, 99% of the business is men seeking an outlet. That other 1% just generally isn't worth advertising to because it is so damn rare. That and I wouldn't think women would need an escort to indulge in some girl/girl action. At least I've never had that problem. Confirmation bias I'm sure on my part...

 

On occasion I did. No offense guys but most guys don't have a fucking clue on how to clean up back there. As I said earlier in the thread, I'd sometimes part the cheeks during a massage and get punched in the throat by unwashed ass stench. There's zero chance I'd go in mouth first back there.

That being said, some guys (a lot of guys) enjoyed showering before a session which admittedly sometimes turned into the session. Since it was easier to make sure parts were clean, I'd have no problem tossing salad while in the shower. Other guys that I knew and saw frequently had the cleansing bit down so if they asked, I'd have no problem tonging their ass. But with the exception of three guys, unless they asked directly I wouldn't volunteer. In my private life it happens more than it did as an escort.

As boring as it sounds, a blowjob. That was near universal. Most of my clients were married men and their wives had developed a severe allergy or got amnesia when it came to sucking their man's cock. It is what it is but a lot of guys just wanted to lay back and enjoy getting blown. It's simple, it's not that salacious but it was by and far the most requested act.

Quite a few guys wanted to try anal and I've been enjoying that since I was 16 so that was fine (although the rookies often solicited an ouch or two from me, being way over eager and porn depicting the wrong way to do it). A lot of guys liked to be pegged too and not the types you would think either.

 

I also learned how to do Japanese cowgirl the right way and for an extended period of time. It takes a lot of leg strength to do it as well as stamina but guys always went batshit crazy for that.

I learned the proper, safe and very pleasurable way to do prostate milking / prostate massage. Once you got past the "it isn't gay" thing that so many men had locked inside their brains, it became a very popular activity.

Other than that, I learned the art of seduction better (as previously mentioned) and just overall I got better at sex. I kinda had to, it was my job but being a horny chick as is, I enjoyed perfecting my craft.

 

Were you always like that or does that have to do with escorting and just go sick of servicing?

 

No, I've pretty much always been assertive other than with one high school boyfriend and a guy I briefly dated about 4 years ago. When I lost my virginity, I'm the one that said "let's do this" (not that he didn't complain or hadn't asked before) and with most of my relationships I was often the initiator when it came to sex.

 

Question

How does escorting compare to the sugar daddy type arrangement I've been hearing about? Have you ever done that?

 

I did both and talked about sugaring in the first 2 pages. I hated it. I found it morally repugnant and completely degrading to me as a person. Some women really like it. One guy, easy money. However those arrangements generally involve her milking him for everything he has and trying to raise her "allowance" but at the same time the daddy has certain rights including sexual, unfettered access to her, some modicum of control over her life, etc.

When hooking, I chose when I worked, who I saw and what I would do. When sugaring, I did have a say as to what I would/wouldn't do but I hated getting a call at noon with him demanding a nooner or some lunch companion out of the blue. The money was very nice, I won't lie, it provided a lot of extra income on top of my escorting but I fucking hated the entire concept. It just wasn't for me.

 

Well, allow me to be the first to tell you that I hoped that your curiosity might out-weigh any defensiveness. Ah, I'm "...condescending?" Actually, I anticipated your counter-intellectualization (hey, when 'the shoe fits...').

Allow me to deflect your feelings with a little self-disclosure. Curiosity - as well as researchable writing topics - comes naturally to a man whose college roommates all have PhDs and tenured (well, not the aspie) teaching and research careers - all except myself.

To cut back to your onus of being TALLER than, say, 92% of all men - let's get some real data to help visualize the psycho-social dynamics:



Two bell curves: height by sex - women are shorter than men, on average; and tall women are rare (N=110,000 and 120,000 respectively; population, white) Men as short as an average woman are relatively much more common. It's the tale of two opposite tales, each with opposing emotional implications.

The psycho-sexual implications that skew because of the above graphical reality ought to be obvious to the tall. But since they aren't, here, permit me to belabor the case.

A google search of "how tall is too tall for a girl" yields a handful of even longer threads at answers.yahoo.com. (Note: men vary rarely ask themselves this same question.)

Last year, HuffPo published a piece on entitled, ominously, "16 Things You Should Never Say To a Tall Woman:"

My tall GFs have also often felt challenged "by what it is to be a woman." A long plaint come from a poster on the entry"tall girl" at urbandictionary is quite plain. The pain of this young woman is palpable:

Yeah, freak - social outcast. Bullied. Lacking feminine grace. Clumsy during their teens. I've heard it all. If you haven't. perhaps you rin with a more hardened or hard hearted crowd, EL?

Finally, at Elite Daily last May, which rather ambitiously bills itself as "The Voice of Generation-Y," we see this headline, "10 Reasons Why You Should Never Date A Tall Girl."http://elitedaily.com/dating/sex/10-reasons-why-you-shouldnt-date-a-tall-girl/ Yes - seriously.

Deny that feeling 'smaller' matters to feeling feminine and experiencing a positive sexual identity for most woman all you want, I still think your opinion goes against the data.

Now, let's add in the opposite tale of the 'bell curve,' the ways in which EL is not at all stereotypically feminine. For example, EL's comfort with being dominant. That is exceptional. That makes you atypical for most females. (Most women your age are also married and have a child - further differences).

As reported by Daniel Bregner in last year's "What Do Women Want?" recent research indicates that submissive erotic fantasies predominate among most women. And this is even more significant since most women are not taller than the average man. The female preference is double skewed against your preference.

From Bregner, here's only one metric (among many): "The results of 10 separate studies so rattled sexologist Marta Meana that she was initially hesitant to talk about them: Between 30 and 60 percent of women reported frequently having what’s been termed 'rape fantasies'.... Most experts believe that the number of women who have so-called rape fantasies is actually much higher, but the notion and nomenclature is so taboo few are willing to admit to it.

Tall people who, literally, standout do stick out - and thereby often receive undue attention - positive as well as negative. I know this well from others because I've been active in a number of tall singles social clubs through the decades.

I think there are at least several sets of data to look at that bear illuminatingly on these questions. Other than your own perceptions, EL, not many can be said to fall on your side of the question.

Smart, motivated people can - and should - agree to disagree. Even when endowed with exceptional lQQks and stature.

My point is less about "fragility" and much more about understanding differentiated sex-roles and psychosexual needs, and how these differences originate and evolve. More personally for us both, it's about how the taller and more unique women among us have to cope with these differences - something I expected some insight and empathy about instead brute indifference.

I'll just let others decide which "differences" matter here on this question. I'm disappointed that you fail to appreciated the significance of such an obvious question, where genetic endowment, socialization, and adult coping can easily collide. Because the answers also echo so significantly on the themes you deign to hold forth on also loom personally and intimately.

 

Hey Orson, this is a sex forum. I'm sure you've accomplished your goal of impressing everyone with your pontification, but that wall o' text was a bit much.


The dynamics of tall vs. short belong on some other forum. Don't know which, but definitely not here. This is where we talk about sex. I don't come here to read fucking bell curves and statistics.



To bring this back on track…… Have you ever had a customer who was unsatisfied with your services? If so, how did you deal with it?

 

A dog had 3 puppies, named Mopsy, Topsy and Spot. What is the mother's name?

 

At any time when working as an escort or a sexual encounter was there ever a time when the guy undressed did the size of his cock scare you? Also, what would you say the biggest you've ever had be. One of my fetishes is when I see an attractive lady I wonder how much cock she could take. I know girth is more important than length.

 

You mentioned that condoms where required with some exceptions for regulars clients. I am curious if the same consideration was made for using a dam if one of your clients wanted to eat your pussy. Related, if you wanted to receive oral in the context of your personal encounters, would you be amiable to using a dam if the guy requested it?

 

Great thread

I have to hand it to you, EroticaLady, you have really put together a great thread, and I appreciate your clear and level-headed approach to your previous business as an escort, and your time now as a consultant.

You are very self-assured, which to me means you will go far in any endeavor. Impressive!

 

Did you ever have experience of 3-some (fmm) or similar? If 'yes' how was it, and 'no' why?

 

Look, I'm sure you mean well but seriously...stop. I'll tell you why. Your post easily comes off as basically saying I should feel:

• Less attractive
• Less feminine
• Somehow inferior
• and guilty

And I'll say it again, you come across as being condescending and insulting. All because I'm tall, assertive and I don't fit the mold of some narrow minded study likely perpetuated by men and given that most surveys about sexuality and/or relationships suffer from participant bias, I think it's grossly skewed. I'm quite frankly highly irritated that people, and men in general, think it's ok to tell me what to do with my body, how I should act, look and feel and that somehow I'm not able to stand on my own merits.

I'll say it again, I have absolutely zero problem with men in my personal life, i was never really self-conscious about my height growing up (and c'mon, I'm 5'10", that not quite amazon territory yet bub) and I'm quite glad that I'm tall. I openly and vehemently reject the notion that I'm somehow less sexy, less attractive and less desirable than if I were 5-8" shorter. I quite honestly find such a narrative insulting and degrading.

I'm very happy with my life and that includes my physical attributes. I have no regrets about them. I'm sorry that you and your studies take issues with the fact that I'm a tall, attractive, assertive, self-sufficient, happily single, business professional and owner of a vagina. Me, I'm going to keep living my life and if someone wants to hate, that's their time being wasted not mine.