As a person in georgia i do not support ths pile of shit either. The repulican/democrat arguments aside for a minute, this goes to show that the government across the board does not care about people just themselves. Those poor people pay this bastards salary too.

http://news.yahoo.com/gop-bar-poor-health-care-altogether-050010877.html


GOP WOULD BAR POOR FROM HEALTH CARE ALTOGETHER

Cynthia Tucker By Cynthia Tucker Mar 1, 2014 12:00 AM



During a Republican primary debate in the last presidential election cycle, there was a dispiriting moment in which tea party audience members cheered at the idea that a comatose uninsured American -- unable to afford health insurance -- would be left to die. That infamous outburst, among others, has prompted GOP bigwigs to try to cut back on primary season debates, hoping to limit appearances that might expose the party's baser impulses.

But that mean-spirited and contemptuous attitude toward the sick is alive and well in the Grand Old Party, as its maniacal (and futile) resistance to Obamacare has made clear. Now, one Republican politician is pushing that callousness to new lows: He wants to bar the uninsured from hospital emergency rooms.

Last week, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal criticized a decades-old federal law that requires all hospitals that receive Medicare funds and have emergency facilities -- and that's most -- to treat any patient who walks in needing care, regardless of his ability to pay. "It came as a result of bad facts," Deal said, according to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "And we have a saying that bad facts make bad law."

Deal says that many people use emergency rooms unnecessarily, and those patients inflate health care costs. He is factually correct. But there are other facts that undercut his arguments and reveal his hypocrisy.

First off, Deal is among those red-state Republicans who have vociferously opposed the Affordable Care Act, which makes health insurance available to hundreds of thousands of people who couldn't otherwise afford it. If more people had health insurance policies that paid for doctors' visits, fewer would use emergency rooms for routine complaints.

Second, Deal, like many Republican governors, has refused the Medicaid expansion made possible by Obamacare, even though the federal government would pick up 100 percent of the cost for the first three years and 90 percent until the year 2022. That expansion is the best chance many Georgians without means have for getting health insurance.

So, to sum up, Deal hates Obamacare and refuses its Medicaid expansion, which would keep the working poor out of emergency rooms. In addition, he wants to deny them access to emergency rooms unless they can pay. Really, governor? Don't you insist that your values are "pro-life"?

It's no wonder that GOP strategists shuddered when audience members responded so cruelly during the CNN/Tea Party Express debate in September 2011. It portrays the party as pitiless -- a reputation unlikely to attract a majority of voters.

Quiet as it's kept, most Americans support keeping Obamacare, despite the relentless pounding it has taken from Republicans. (And despite a website rollout that was infuriatingly incompetent.) A new poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 56 percent of Americans favor keeping it in place, while just 31 percent want to repeal it. (Twelve percent want to replace it with a GOP plan.)

That's likely because most voters, no matter their reservations about Obamacare, know that the Republican Party has no good solution for the millions of Americans who work every day but still don't earn enough money to buy a health care plan. Americans have struggled with the nation's dysfunctional health care "system," and they know it's overdue for an overhaul.

Meanwhile, as the mid-term elections draw closer, the GOP struggles to come up with a plan that pretends to overhaul the health care system. Looking to avoid being painted as mere obstructions, House Republican honchos are working to draw their caucus together behind a bill that would replace Obamacare with a workable alternative.

But the most sincere plan so far -- one offered by Sens. Richard Burr, R-N.C., Tom Coburn, R-Okla. and Orrin Hatch, R-Utah -- would probably offer policies too skimpy to do any good once a policy-holder gets sick.

Besides, even that replacement idea seems unlikely to draw broad support among the far-right tea partiers, who believe that allowing the uninsured poor to die is the appropriate government response to the health care crisis.

That's a hulking bit of hypocrisy for a party that advertises itself as "pro-life." Deal's latest proposal is one more reminder of how little that label means.

 

Fuck off you stupid moron

 

Another soap opera.

"As the health care topic spins", the story of how the proponents of universal health care paint the efforts of responsible politicians as being anti poor folk.

To soon be followed by: "All my children's health issues".

And on Fox, the new show: "Dancing with puppies", explores the lack of alpha males in the Congress of the US.

 

I see it as an opportunity to bash evil government thugs, nothing more nothing less.

 

Whether warranted or not, right?

 

I can't trust yahoo news due to their political bias. I never saw a news outfit run campaign adds in their stories.

 

i had read this article a while back and while there are some parts that are correct by facts it is for the most part false thought on his part

he is right to be worried about the overuse of the emergency rooms for routine care he is wrong in advocating that our hospitals refuse to care for our citizens

now i did read about a deal in california where several thousand illegal aliens were granted health coverage under the states newly expanded medicaid plans but i expect that from a state that allows illegals to obtain a drivers license, and even practice law

deal did make a minor point in that the use of emergency rooms is one of the main effects of the high price of medical costs but he refused to accept that he himself is also a cause
there are many that refuse to end the days where the pharmaceutical companies are permitted to make a 600% profit on a medication that is required to sustain life
they refuse to accept that the governments investments in medical research that is then the property of the university or company that conducted the research on the taxpayers dime is an arcane and outdated ideal that should end
they refuse to accept that the people making all decisions about a persons health care should be that person and their doctor, not lawyers and business people that are there to maximize profits

 

I have been thinking about this some and had an epiphany. Under Obamscare every US citizen is required by law to have health insurance and can pay the hospital bill. So if your in compliance with Obamacare you have nothing to worry about.

 

wow an idiocracy that you had
some states have refused to even participate at any level therefore leaving their people in the lurch
the poorest of the poor do not have the access to a means to gain the compliance because some state governors have decided to block it
and yes they have gone so far as to block access to the website in schools and libraries

and then there are the extremist idiots that took it as far as to allow illegals to participate

but i expect everything to be exaggerated by those that see it as a failed plan prior to allowing it a chance to work

but i have also witnessed where most of it comes from
this is not an american phenomenon
you are simply following the words and will of your next queen

 

The states have refused to set up state exchanges but the people still have the federal and private exchanges so they are not on their own. But you failed to see the real target of this if all US citizens can pay who gets denied service. The answer is illegals so I'm really surprised the race card hasn't been played yet.

 

A new report shows that as many as 125,000 young California immigrants may qualify for an expansion of Medi-Cal, the state’s Medicaid program.
The Affordable Care Act bars insurance subsidies and enrollment in the Medicaid expansion for undocumented immigrants, but a wrinkle in California rules does offer coverage for those with “deferred action status.”
The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was created by President Obama in 2012 to grant immigrants who came to the country illegally as children — sometimes called Dreamers — legal status and work authorization for two-year periods.
Laurel Lucia, a policy analyst at the UC Berkeley Labor Center and author of the report released Tuesday, said California is one of the few states that lets youth with deferred action status enroll in Medicaid.
“But the word still hasn’t been spread,” she said.
The report found that 154,000 people in California had been granted the status as of December 2013. About 81%, or 125,000, are eligible for Medi-Cal based on their annual income, which has to be less than $15,850 for an individual.
To be eligible for deferred action, immigrants had to arrive in the U.S. before they were 16, be under 31 as of June 2012 and to have continuously lived in the U.S. since 2007.
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As Richard Baehr points out, these “dreamers” were supposed to be the best and brightest among the illegals. Yet 80% of them are earning less than $16,000. Because of all the subsidies available to low incpome people in the United States, from food stamps EBT to the earned income “tax credit” (welfare check) to Section 8 housing subsidies, poor people are very expensive, a burden the taxpayers must carry. Now we can add Medicaid expenses.
Hat tip: Ed Lasky






yes the plan got fucked up by a group of bleeding heart pussies
so did alot of things
like the death penalty, prison, and politics


we used to be a nation of people that worked for what they had
now most people would rather sit on their asses and eat processed foods from china while they watch a japaneese made TV and listen to news that is so fucking biased that they are nothing more than paid political ads for one side or another

 

What i want to know is why the government always tries to screw over people. Nathan deal is a cold hearted bastard that dont care if everyone in georgia dies as long as his check clears.

 

The simple answer is it looks good to the people that believe you should pay your own way in life. But in truth he can do it since legally they can't deny care regardless of payment. It's all about getting campaign contributions and pandering to the base. And as I theorized it could also be a way of not having to cover illegal immigrants without advertising to the ACLU and other groups.

 

You guys buy whatever some politically motivated blogger puts on the
internet.

There are many states who have not signed onto the Medicaid expansion part of the ACA, they are given the option. If they do sign on, then they will be, at the whim of the federal government, required to fund their portion of the expansion.

This can range anywhere from 25% to 50% with the average being 43% of the cost of the program.
http://www.medicaid.gov/Medicaid-CH...eimbursement/Financing-and-Reimbursement.html

This is like handing a huge chunk of the state budget over to Washington. If they do not sign on, then the federal government will reduce their portion of the existing Medicare costs. Many states have figured that it is cheaper to take the cut, rather than to have their contribution explode.

 

I used to believe that also. The hospital I worked at showed me that it is false. They can refuse service to anyone they want.

 

Not in the emergency room. They are compelled by law, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, to conduct a screening exam, to stabilize the patient and to either transfer the patient to a facility that will provide additional care or to admit the patient to their hospital and conduct the care themselves or to discharge the patient if further treatment is not required, all at no cost to the patient, if they are indigent.

This applies to any hospital which is in the Medicare program and/or is a tax exempt, not for profit.

 

I never said I believed the story given it's source. I read this on several days before it was posted on the forum and had doubts about it's authenticity. I also was giving a theory that it could be used to label the governor in question as a racist in the future. Since all US citizens are required to have insurance but illegal immigrants ( save dreamers in select cases) aren't covered by Obamacare.

 

I thought that also.
The hospital I worked in would not let the ambulance unload a man. They told the driver to go to another hospital. The man died in route to another hospital. I asked how they could do that and was told they could accept or refuse anyone they wanted.

 

They are in violation of the law, they could and should be prosecuted for the crime.

The ONLY way a hospital can avoid this law is if: It does not accept any Medicare patients; it is a for profit hospital or it has no emergency room.

Other wise they have to take them and can not ask for payment information until the screening exam is conducted and the stabilization treatment is started.

 

I saw people turned away because they had no money or insurance while i was waiting to be seen. That may be a law but it still goes on, usually the white people are the only ones turned away.

I myself have been turned away by a private hospital.