I agree. I think it's the authority that does it for me. Being "punished" by your fantasy dad during sex would be alot better and far more satisfying than being punished by someone else perhaps.

 

Only someone from Virginia would call it a VAGINIA

 

If I were to someday lose my mind and break these chains that bind me to the ground to embrace a life of complete freedom from conservative lifestyles, I would choose to sex up one of my many female cousins. Why? Cause they have great personalities hidden deep within thier cold brainwashed exteriors, a kind of spirit that waits to be freed, a kind of entity that also has had its wings tied and bound to eternal imprisonment. I would want to free them from those shackles, and allow them to embrace the light of liberals without fear of pain, death or deception!

*overdramatizes just for the heck of it.... or simply out a utter irritation to the conservative lifestyle....*

 

Oh for crying out loud

Holy ignats, you all fucking know where the fuck you are, right and you all know what the fucking thread is about. Here is what I just don't fucking understand. Why all the fucking negative comments? If incest does not interest you, fucking move on for Pete sake. Go start a threat about why and how incest is so bad. The question was simple. Those who are interested should not have to wade threw a mile of your shit and negativity about the question. Holy fuck man, just move the fuck on. Those who want to read about this don't give a flying fiddle fuck what you think anyway you fucking morons. Fuck, fuck, fuck man. Don't you just hate it when you post a thread and you get all kinds of crack addicts posting the stupidest shit.. Your on a porn site for fucks sake. Ya, this is a great place to speak of morals. Fuck man, I need a life.

 

fortunately or unfortunately depends which way you look at it i already fucked my sister when i was 18 and she was 21, weird and awkward every now and again when we around each other, but damn was she the best fuck i've ever had :mrgreen:

 

I would fuck my sister without thinking twice.

 

How long ago was that?

Kinda prying, but do YOU want to do it again? Is she the one stopping it?

 

I would to know more too.

 

Kay here's one for you. Is it incest if it's you're aunt's husband's adopted daughter from his first marraige?

 

"My Teasing Sister"

I grew up with two beautiful sisters. I never committed incest with either of them, or even experimented with either. I do remember being mildly aroused rubbing sun tan lotion on one of them. I had never felt anything as wonderful as her soft, smooth flesh.

I can enjoy thinking about an incestuous attraction that is acted upon without resulting in sexual intercourse. I have written three short stories on this theme, including “My Teasing Sister,” which I have posted on this web site. I cannot fantasize having sex with my sisters, however.

 

I just put don't like incest because im not sure if wanting to fuck you sister-inlaws is incest

 

mmm

i love my hot little cousin fantasies...

 

Would do it again in a heartbeat, she's so damn fine just feels kinda weird to say and think so what with all social pressures and all

 

My older sister because she is so hot I'd fold her in half in a heartbeat.:mrgreen:

 

Please let someone on here be from social services. Damn dude are you at her birthday parties marking down the day when she becomes 18. Fucking sick!!!

 

Funny that, at 16, you had no problem having sex with whomever you did it with, but you suggest that the person who loves you more than anyone else in the world would make it the most "dreadful, horrible, frightening, tragic, disgusting encounter" of your life.

Why is it the assumption of the anti-incest crowd that parents who have a sexual relationship with their adolescent teenagers are ONLY in it for the abuse of power and to take advantage? And are you even aware that most of you, in the same breath, will say that two teenagers having sex is OK but when a parent has sex with their teenager, the teen all of a sudden becomes 'innocent' and is being 'abused'? Say you have a 15 year old boy who has talked with his mother, demonstrated that he understands the responsibilities and repercussions of experimenting with sex, and he and she both agree that he's ready to try. So he does, and his first time is with a girl that he thought cared about him, but he finds out that she only did it to get back at her ex-boyfriend, and now won't have anything to do with him. He wants a more positive sexual experience filled with caring and compassion, someone who isn't going to lie to him just to get him in the sack, someone who's going to love him no matter what they do or don't do under the covers. He thinks about this and realizes that him mom loves him very much and would never hurt him the way that other teenage girls can, so he approaches her and asks her to be his sexual partner. How in the world could this POSSIBLY be construed as abuse? Are there parents out there that would force themselves onto their teenagers, or manipulate or trick them? Yes, there are already a few, despite the current laws that prohibit incest, but then again, we already have a law against unwanted, deceptive, and/or forceful sexual activity. It's called RAPE. Rape doesn't care whether you're related to the victim or not, you're taken care of the same way. The bottom line is this: if an adolescent is old enough to experiment with sex, and it's OK for them to choose a partner that happens to be the same age to have protected, consentual sex with, there's no logical reason that same adolescent can't choose one of their parents to have protected, consentual sex with. The argument that parents having sex with their teenagers are always and automatically 'abusers' and that the teenagers are always and automatically 'innocent' is severely flawed and based on emotionally-charged and propoganda-fed leaps of logic and reason. You can put this argument to rest.

While I'm at it, the anti-incest crowd is also quick to mention that incest will result in birth defects. However, they usually mention it as though a pregnancy is going to happen EVERY TIME incest occurs. Guess what? People in incestuous relationships learned about birth control exactly the same way you did, and they use it for the exact same reason you do -- to prevent unwanted pregnancies. This is also an argument that is based on flawed assumptions; you can drop this one as well.

The way I see it, the best possible first partner a teenager can have is his/her mother/father. A mother or father that otherwise loves, adores, and protects their teenager isn't going to morph into some vicious human monster just because of a sexual relationship. A parent isn't going to lie to their teenager to get them to have sex, they're not going to tell them that they're no good if they don't do it, and a parent will help to ensure that it's protected and controlled, rathern than in the back seat of a Buick behind a Taco Bell.

At a minimum, the summary is this: There is no logical reason to have a law against incest. If the parties involved are consenting there is no reason whatsoever to try to stop it or punish it. If incest is not for you, fine -- don't practice it. But no one has a right to enact a law or to continue to support a law that that invades the personal privacy of consenting partners. You personal/religious beliefs belong in your home and no one else's.

 

That is precisely correct ... it would have been just that. And I didn't say "the most ... in my life", you added that. You can't possibly have any idea what my relationship with my father was ... but I can assure you that, if at the age of 16 I became the apple of his eye suddenly, and he started taking me on long car rides to tell me he loved me ... it would have been manipulation, not love.

The flaw I see with your logic is that I don't believe the mother/son or father/daughter experience you're talking about is a "first time, learn how to do it with love" kind. It sounds like you're advocating ongoing sexual relationships between parents and children. Do you think it's healthy for daughters to fall in love (not love ... children should love their parents, but it is absolutely unhealthy for them to be in love with their parents) with their fathers? For sons to forego relationships with women their own age because they fell in love with their first sexual partner, their mom? Sex is like everything else in life ... you have to learn how to take the good with the bad. If your first experience doesn't have beautiful theme music to it, then you dust yourself off and get on with getting on. That doesn't, to me, seem a good enough reason to promote incest.

And I also believe that the vast majority of incestuous relationships are not the kind of which you speak. They are not those instigated by a virginal child unable to have a fulfilling sexual relationship outside the family home. They are exactly the abusive kind that the law attempts to dissuade or terminate and punish.

It sounds as if you have been involved in an incestuous relationship ... if you have come out of it with the ability to have healthy, positive and loving relationships with non-family members, then I am very happy for you. I, for my part, prefer to keep my sexual relationships outside the family circle.

 

same thing with me but not my dad .... my mom and my cousins .... but they're hot in real life tooo

 

In that case, I truly feel sorry for you, having to grow up with a father that, had he decided to initiate a sexual relationship with his daughter, would have chosen manipulation over choice. I can only imagine what a childhood spent with such a man could have been like in all other aspects in which he did interact with you directly.

There is no flaw in my logic. The only problem here is that your opinion differs from the contentions that I presented, backed by logic and reason.

I'm advocating the repeal of any law that criminalizes the activity of two consenting human beings just because they are related and for no other valid reason. Whether a sexual relationship between a parent and a teenager lasts one week or several years is entirely up to the persons involved. It's up to them to decide the boundaries and conditions of their relationship.

All of this is pure opinion. If a mother/son or father/daughter realize that they are happier with each other than they've ever been with anyone else, and decide to live their lives as any other couple would, then who in the world are you to say that it's 'unhealthy'? There are only two people who could accurately say whether it's unhealthy, and that's the couple in question. Just because you've been 'taught' that an incestuous relationship is unhealthy doesn't mean that it is; that's just what you've been taught.

Here's where you and I almost agree completely. More people in this world are entirely TOO sheltered, and need more lessons in how to take the good with the bad. With that said, if there's a way for a teenager's first sexual experience to be a pleasant one (no matter who it's with), would you ever interfere to make it a bad one just for the sake of a 'life lesson'? A teenager will have the rest of their lives to leave the home and begin a long list of bad relationships and sexual encounters. Think about all the other 'firsts' that you experience with your child. The very first time you put your toddler in a pool to swim, do you force him/her underwater to get a good lungful of 'life lesson'? The first time you take your young child to a huge mall or outdoor area, do you intentionally leave him/her at a balloon display and just figure that 'life lessons' will lead them back to your side? Of course not -- so why would it be reasonable to treat your teenager's first sexual experience any differently? I'm not promoting incest as a way to sidestep learning the bad side of sex and relationships; my contention is that if a teenager wants their first time to be a positive one (I haven't met a teenager yet that has honestly said they wanted their first time to be horrible and depressing), and he/she has discussed it with their parents, there's no reason that the teen and the parent can't share that first time together and make it a good, positive one.

I spent a brief time as a military recruiter. Of all the things that a parent would say to me when I answered questions about their son or daughter joining the military, one of the hardest to respond to was "If they join, that's just like signing a death warrant. They're just gonna end up getting shot and killed somewhere." It was hard, until I found a list put out every year of the 10 Most Dangerous Jobs in America. I was able to point out that, based on the number of directly work-related deaths, logging, fishing, and farming were among the deadliest jobs in the country. The military didn't even make the list. I would then explain why it seemed otherwise. It's because when a fisherman dies, you don't hear about it on CNN. When a logger has a tree fall on him or a farmer falls off a grain elevator, you won't hear about it on FOX News. However, just one soldier gets shot and every news channel on your TV has the story. If all you hear about in the news is military deaths, it's easy to see how it can get you to thinking that that's all that happens to military personnel. You join, you die.

The same can be said for incestuous relationships. You never hear about a brother and sister that have been living happily together for twenty years, or a daughter and a mother that both left abusive relationships and found strength and love in each other. No, when an incestuous relationship is featured in the news, it's ONLY the bad ones, where someone was forced or taken advantage of. I will remind you, and anyone else that might be reading, that once sex has been forced or manipulated onto a family member, it is no longer incest of any kind -- IT IS RAPE, a crime for which we already have numerous laws. I can understand why you would 'believe' that most incestuous relationships are the abusive kind; that's all anyone in the news/media cares to report. You would do well to do your own investigating; get your own data rather than what the news wants to give you. You'll find that most incest happens for only a brief period of time and, at a minimum, simply ends for various, ordinary reasons (physical relocation, marriage to someone else, etc.)

I have not ever been in an incestuous relationship, nor do I ever think I will be in one. However, I know enough about myself to know that if I found the same kind of happines and fulfilment in a sibling/parent that others find in non-family members, the simple fact that we are related would be of no legitimate significance whatsoever. If all that's wrong with a relationship is that, in your opinion, it's 'wrong', then your opinion means precisely dick to an otherwise meaningful, consentual, and logically and reasonably sound relationship.

If you choose to keep your sexual relationships outside of your family, then that is your choice and yours alone; no one else can or should make that consentual choice for you. In the same manner, you, nor anyone else, has the right to criminalize that same, consentual choice for someone else just because their consentual choice is for someone within their own family.

 

As a new member to the forum, I have quickly learned that I have only 5 minutes (and it seemed a VERY BRIEF 5 minutes) to edit my post before it is locked forever and can only be changed with the permission of an administrator. Let this post serve as a notice that, had I been given a larger window of opportunity, I would have corrected a couple of typos I discovered. Alas, they will have to stand as is; my apologies in advance.