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  1. power123

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    I already have the hat, gun, and boots. Can I join the group?
     
  2. snowleopard3200

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    May as well. It appears several popular Islamic clerics in Iraq are calling on the people and not their government to stand and fight the ISIS terror-group.

    If Iran enters this fray, and not by invitation of the Iraqi government, then the entire equation changes completely.
    At that point, all bets are off, save for the escalation into a full-scale regional war, and probably a world war.

    The Fabians such as Soros must be happy to no end.
     
  3. snowleopard3200

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    Information concerning the current leaser of ISIS...

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/isis-leader-see-you-in-new-york.html



    When Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi walked away from a U.S. detention camp in 2009, the future leader of ISIS issued some chilling final words to reservists from Long Island.


    The Islamist extremist some are now calling the most dangerous man in the world had a few parting words to his captors as he was released from the biggest U.S. detention camp in Iraq in 2009.


    King didn’t take these words from Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as a threat. Al-Baghdadi knew that many of his captors were from New York, reservists with the 306 Military Police Battalion, a unit based on Long Island that includes numerous numerous members of the NYPD and the FDNY. The camp itself was named after FDNY Fire Marshal Ronald Bucca, who was killed at the World Trade Center in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.


    King figured that al-Baghdadi was just saying that he had known all along that it was all essentially a joke, that he had only to wait and he would be freed to go back to what he had been doing.


    “Like, ‘This is no big thing, I’ll see you on the block,’” King says.


    King had not imagined that in less that five years he would be seeing news reports that al-Baghdadi was the leader of ISIS, the ultra-extremist army that was sweeping through Iraq toward Baghdad.


    “I’m not surprised that it was someone who spent time in Bucca but I’m a little surprised it was him,” King says. “He was a bad dude, but he wasn’t the worst of the worst.”


    King allows that along with being surprised he was frustrated on a very personal level.


    “We spent how many missions and how many soldiers were put at risk when we caught this guy and we just released him,” King says.


    During the four years that al-Baghdadi was in custody, there had been no way for the Americans to predict what a danger he would become. Al-Baghdadi hadn’t even been assigned to Compound 14, which was reserved for the most virulently extremist Sunnis.
    “A lot of times, the really bad guys tended to operate behind the scenes because they wanted to be invisible,” the other officer says.



    “The worst of the worst were kept in one area,” King says. “I don’t recall him being in that group.”


    Al-Baghdadi was also apparently not one of the extremists who presided over Sharia courts that sought to enforce fundamentalist Islamic law among their fellow prisoners. One extremist made himself known after the guards put TV sets outside the 16-foot chain-link fence that surrounded each compound. An American officer saw a big crowd form in front of one, but came back a short time later to see not a soul.


    “Some guy came up and shooed them all away because TV was Western,” recalls the officer, who asked not to be named. “So we identified who that guy was, put a report in his file, kept him under observation for other behaviors.”


    The officer says the guards kept constant watch for clues among the prisoners for coalescing groups and ascending leaders.


    “You can tell when somebody is eliciting leadership skills, flag him, watch him further, how much leadership they’re excerpting and with whom,” the other officer says.

    “You have to constantly stay after it because it constantly changes, sometimes day by day.”


    The guards would seek to disrupt the courts along with and any nascent organizations and hierarchies by moving inmates to different compounds, though keeping the Sunnis and the Shiites separate.


    “The Bloods with the Bloods and the Crips with the Crips, that kind of thing,” King says.


    The guards would then move the prisoners again and again. That would also keep the prisoners from spotting any possible weaknesses in security.


    “The detainees have nothing but time,” King says. “They’re looking at patterns, they’re looking at routines, they’re looking for opportunities.”


    As al-Baghdadi and the 26,000 other prisoners were learning the need for patience in studying the enemy, the guards would be constantly searching for homemade weapons fashioned from what the prisoners dug up, the camp having been built on a former junkyard.


    “People think of a detainee operation, they think it’s a sleepy Hogans Heroes-type camp,” the other officer says. “And it’s nothing of the sort.”


    Meanwhile, al-Baghdadi’s four years at Camp Bucca would have been a perpetual lesson in the importance of avoiding notice.


    “A lot of times, the really bad guys tended to operate behind the scenes because they wanted to be invisible,” the other officer says.


    King seemed confident that he and his guards with their New York street sense would have known if al-Baghdadi had in fact been prominent among the super-bad guys when he was at Camp Bucca.


    King had every reason to think he had seen the last of al-Baghdadi in the late summer of 2009, when this seemingly unremarkable prisoner departed with a group of others on one of the C-17 cargo-plane flights that ferried them to a smaller facility near Baghdad. Camp Bucca closed not along afterward.


    Al-Baghdadi clearly remembered some of the lessons of his time there. He has made no videos, unlike Osama bin Laden and many of the other extremist leaders. The news reports might not have had a photo of him at all were it not for the one taken by the Americans when he was first captured in 2005.


    That is the face that King was so surprised to see this week as the man who had become the absolute worst of the worst, so bad that even al Qaeda had disowned him. The whole world was stunned as al-Baghdadi now told his enemies “I’ll see you in Baghdad.”
     
  4. snowleopard3200

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    A carrier battle group has been dispatched to the region "in case Iraqi military option needed."

    Mind you, while this happens we still have contractors who are US Citizens left behind in Iraq by the administration. Benghazi again on a much more massive scale, and the admin sits on their hands to do nothing to save them.

    http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-orde...-163630548.html;_ylt=AwrBEiKPepxTQnkAbcXQtDMD

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered an aircraft carrier moved into the Gulf on Saturday, readying it in case Washington decides to pursue a military option after insurgents overwhelmed a string of Iraqi cities this week and threatened Baghdad.


    "The order will provide the Commander-in-Chief additional flexibility should military options be required to protect American lives, citizens and interests in Iraq," the Pentagon said in a statement.


    The carrier USS George H.W. Bush, moving from the North Arabian Sea, will be accompanied by the guided-missile cruiser USS Philippine Sea and the guided-missile destroyer USS Truxtun, the statement said. It added the ships were expected to complete their transit into the Gulf later on Saturday.


    President Barack Obama said on Friday he needed several days to determine how the United States would help Iraq deal with the insurgency. But he ruled out sending U.S. troops back into combat and said any intervention would be contingent on Iraqi leaders becoming more involved.


    The Pentagon is preparing a range of options for Obama, including air strikes. Such actions would be aimed at helping Iraq counter militants of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or ISIL.[ID:nL2N0OU0XR]


    The USS George H.W. Bush is a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, the largest warships in the world, according to the U.S. Navy. The ships are powered by two nuclear reactors and can carry a crew of about 6,000 people.


    Please note the symbolic element of the carrier chosen for this move: USS George H. W. Bush.

    This is being done to remind people that Bush Senior committed force (under the UN, something the left loves to forget) in the First Gulf War, and that it was Bush Jr who did so in Iraqi Freedom. He also is attempting to connect all conservatives with those wars, and the current mess caused by his massive foreign relations failure in the Middle East.

    In short, Pres Obama will do nothing to save American citizens, do nothing more than symbolic gestures at best to stop ISIS, and for that matter if he does order air strikes it will be to save his flaming tail from yet another series of ongoing scandals and criminal activities.
     
  5. snowleopard3200

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    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014...-make-current-gas-prices-look-like-a-bargain/


    [h=1]Analyst: Fall Of Baghdad Would Make Current Gas Prices ‘Look Like A Bargain’[/h]
    LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Oil industry analysts are warning a brewing civil war between Islamic militants in Iraq could potentially send gas prices soaring here in the Southland.


    KNX 1070′s Pete Demetriou reports the price of crude oil has shot up to $107 per barrel – the highest in 10 months – on reports that soldiers with the al-Qaeda-inspired Islamic State of Iraq and Syria captured two towns in an ethnically mixed province northeast of Baghdad.

    [h=4]Analyst Warns Fall Of Baghdad Would Make Current Gas Prices 'Look Like A Bargain'[/h]


    The average price of a gallon of self-serve regular gasoline in Los Angeles County dropped three-tenths of a cent Friday to $4.129, its lowest since April 7, according to figures from the AAA and Oil Price Information Service. While that price is nearly 13 cents more than one year ago, most experts are predicting a relatively tame 7 to 10 cents a gallon increase in the next two weeks as the summer season kicks off.


    But any reduction in the flow of Iraqi crude due to the ongoing Islamic insurgency in the northern Iraq cities of Mosul and Tikrit could have worldwide economic consequences, according to oil industry analyst Phill Flynn, who said speculators are watching for the worst-case scenario.


    “They think that Baghdad will not fall and that will be a more spirited defense of that city,” Flynn said. “But if it does fall and if the terrorists move further south, the price you’re paying at the pump today is gonna look like a bargain in a couple weeks.”


    CBS News reports that a cellphone video from the Kurdish-controlled city of Irbil in northern Iraq showed the Islamic militants putting on a show of force in Mosul, parading vehicles captured from Iraq’s military through the country’s second biggest city.


    A fighter using a loudspeaker urged the people to join the militant group “to liberate Baghdad and Jerusalem,” according to CBS News.


    President Barack Obama said Friday he is weighing a range of options for countering the violent Islamic insurgency in Iraq, but he warned government leaders in
    Baghdad the U.S. will not take military action unless they move to address deep-seated political troubles.


    “We’re not going to allow ourselves to be dragged back into a situation in which, while we’re there we’re keeping a lid on things, and after enormous sacrifices by us, after we’re not there, people start acting in ways that are not conducive to the long-term stability and prosperity of the country,” Obama said from the South Lawn of the White House.


    The president did not specify what options he was considering, but he ruled out sending American troops back into combat in Iraq. The last U.S. troops withdrew in 2011 after more than eight years of war.


    Flynn said crude analysts will closely watch the developments in the region over the next few days.


    “We’re gonna see some type of uptick; how dramatic it will be will probably be dependent on the events over the next 24 to 48 hours,” Flynn said.


    Now we see one more reason Pres Obama will do nothing: any and all spikes in oil prices will have long term devastating consequences for our nations economy. This is doubly true due to the administrations constant ongoing campaign to crush domestic oil and gas development, and to ensure the extinction of coal-fired plants.

    When will people finally admit that the President hatred for this nation is so great he will ally with terrorists and let our nation suffer to extremes as 'punishment' for economic success in the past?

     
  6. Distant Lover

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    Know when to walk away

    Once George the Lesser made the decision to invade in order to find weapons of destruction that he probably knew Saddam did not have this was going to happen sooner or later. We never should have invaded. We never should have stayed as long as we did.

    So, yes I blame Bush for this. The only reason Obama is complicit is because he did not cut our losses sooner.



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    You gotta learn to play it right

    You've got to know when to hold 'em
    Know when to fold 'em
    Know when to walk away
    Know when to run...

    Every gambler knows
    That the secret to survivin'
    Is knowin' what to throw away
    And knowin' what to keep

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    President Obama does not hate the United States. Your hatred for him is pathological. You think he hates the United States and wants the terrorists to win. Do you also believe that he is a Muslim born in Kenya?

    This can be said of Obama's more deranged opponents: A hatred burns in you that scares normal people.
     
  9. Distant Lover

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    Was it really that long ago when Iraq was governed by an enemy of Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and Iran who knew how to keep Islamic terrorists under control? :?:

    Can anyone remember why it seemed like a good idea to invade Iraq in order to get him out of power? :???:

    Saddam.jpeg
     
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  10. power123

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    Normal people will see and judge people by what they do, not by what they say. You should try it sometimes.
     
  11. power123

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    One person did not decide to invade Iran. The politicians voted on it. He was warned if he did not let the inspectors do their job they would be pulled out and we would do what both parties voted to do. He was given a deadline which he ignored like he did every deadline he was given. It was the wrong decision.
    I repeat. One person did not decide to invade Iran. It was voted on. Many of your heroes voted to invade. Try looking at it without blinders.
     
  12. Distant Lover

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    First of all it was Iraq we invaded, not Iran.

    Second, it was George the Lesser who took the initiative, and who said that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, and who hinted broadly that Saddam was close to developing an atomic bomb.
     
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    and ever person woh voted had the same info bush had and just because they did not find WMDs does not mean they were not there.

    Hell they never found airheart (spelling prob wrong but thats beside the point) they never found her but people still know she was real.

    Iraq is a big ass country with lots and lots of sand hell for all we know the "WMDs" might be in a hole in the sand
    eather way we know congress had the same info every one who was for the war before they were not for the war.

    just my 2 cents worth
     
  14. power123

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    Sorry about the Iran Iraq mistake.

    There were weapons of mass destruction. Some ended up in Canada. Some ended up in other countries.
    You keep forgetting that even your beloved democrats voted to invade Iran. Hillary, and we all know she can do no harm in your mind, voted to go in.
     
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    The possession of poison gas and biological weapons was not worth going to war over. If Saddam had those, he had very little of either. By the time the United States invaded, Saddam was thoroughly house trained. He was discredited as a Arab nationalist or Sunni religious leader. The United States was better off with him in power than we have been since. He was more of a threat to Al Qaeda and Iran than he was to us.

    This was George the Lesser's doing. Congressional Democrats made a mistake to vote for it. Obama made a mistake to keep the war going as long as he did. Nevertheless, GW is to blame.

    The thing to do after you figure out you have made a mistake is to stop making it, and take the consequences.
     
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    You keep forgetting the real reason we went in. He broke the agreement he made. He was given a warning, which he ignored. He was given a deadline, which he ignored.
    It cost him his life. Your favorite politicians voted to go in. How can it not be their fault also? Why do you only blame Bush? How can you blame everything on Bush then cry when anyone says anything about Obama?
     
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    I blame those who believed Bush about "the smoking gun" becoming "a mushroom cloud." I believed that too. George the Lesser had more information than the rest of us. I think he was lying, but I can't prove it.
     
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    But your heroes had the same info and came to the same conclusion.
    What happened to them. Why is it not their fault also?
    Try looking at both sides the same. If you can do that people might take you more seriously instead of laughing at you.
     
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    What happened to "them" as in the Democrats was what happened to the rest of the nation. We were all lied to by the Bush Administration that knew very well they were lying and there were no weapons of mass destruction left in Iraq, no connection to the 9/11 attack/ and at least at that time no connection between Iraq and al Qaeda. "They" unfortunately believed the lies of the Bush administration and voted accordingly.
     
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