We don't see any leftists on this thread today.

Curious.

I have a theory... I've never seen a poll...

But I would bet that the majority of the people who elected this regime on the Hope and Change platform were hoping for, among other things, a re-evaluatkion of the relationship between the U.S. and Israel.

All of the left movements since 2008-- ACORN, Move On, and even the Occupy Movement-- most of their followers are either antisemites or unwitting tools of anti-semites.

These are the same tools who held up signs about Zion in Occupy protests without knowing what it means.

These are the tools who cheer Barack Obama and John Kerry when they say that resetting Israel's border to 1967 and splitting Jerusalem in two is "only fair."

These people, most of them, definitely want the U.S. to abandon Israel.

But they want to have their cake and eat it, too.

They want Israel to defend itself and lose.

If we turn our backs on Israel, we will likely see the day that Israel defends itself. But they are not going to lose. They are going to strike every neighbor and raise the Star of David in their capitols.

 

Yes, the Samson option.

 

Well, the Jews here in the US supported Obama back in 2008 by a 2/3's margin.

Why should Israel expect Obama to do anything for them when their own people here in the US stabbed them in the back?

The Jews will not go quietly again my ass!

 

The Jewish people in the US are not Israelis, they are Americans, quick to argue, but slow to fight. Israelis are slow to argue and quick to fight.

 

Minor correction: the Israeli people are slow to argue, would prefer to be left alone by their hostile neighbors, and when necessary, fight harder than an enraged wolverine having a bad hair day.

People need to understand the simple truth of Israel: if war comes to them, and they lose, they cease to exist as a nation and a people.

 

BREAKING NEWS! MORE BEAUTIFUL SELF-DETERMINATION! (giggle)

So Choom-Boy Obama has been telling Iraq to fight its own battles and solve its own problems, and John Forbes "Botox Francois" Kerry has been parroting the feckless Chief Simian of the Realm.

And the Iraqi president, Mallaki, has been begging for help with that.

1. Please give us air assistance.

The Monkey: Nyet.

2. Please give us the fighter jets you promised us so we can bomb them ourselves.

The Monkey: Nyet.

3. If you won't hold up your agreements, we'll buy the damned things! Sell us some jets!

The Monkey: Nyet.

(Editorial by Princess Clarise: why would The Monkey not at least sell the damned jets to Iraq? My theory: The Monkey is Sunni, and he sympathizes with ISIS, and giving Iraq an edge just wouldn't be fair.)


ENTER VLADIMIR PUTIN. A REAL LEADER AND REAL MAN.

Vladimir to Mallaki: Huh. Looks like you got some troubles there.

Mallaki: I'm at the mercy of a crack dazed Monkey.

Vladimir: Tsk tsk. The Monkey won't sell you jets? Diss is not good. How can Mother Russia help?

Mallaki: I could use some jets. Cost no object.

Vladimir: (stroke of pen) DONE! Expedite! You vill half jets Monday. Say hi to Monkey for me.

Mallaki: To hell with the Monkey. Let's be allies.

Vladimir: Iraq can count on Mother Russia.

 

If push come to shove, I do believe it would be in the US best interest to defend Israel.

Israel is an undeclared nuclear power. Estimates are they have around 300-500 nuclear weapons. Both tactical and strategic.

If they ever became endanger of being over run by their Arab neighbors, they would have little choice, other than to defend themselves.....

 

Unfortunately, "US best interest" and "current administration" are rarely seen in the same room together.

 

As of now there is a true wild card that has to be determined: ISIS...

It has accumulated a massive fortune measured in billions of dollars from plundering areas of Iraq it has seized. Some of it is in hard currency assets, and how long does anyone think it would take for them to make a deal with a nation for a functional nuclear or radiological device or two?

 

Congratulations to the extremist-in-chief in the White House.

His beloved ISIS terrorist group that he has so generously supplied, supported, trained and much more has now officially declared the Caliphate has arisen in Iraq.
His treason is complete, and he still demands $2 Billion to further support terrorists in Syria?

 

Whining

This may not be popular, but totally pull out of the middle east. Let them squabble all they want. The U.S. is spending a fortune (that we do not have) to support these idiots. We cannot afford to be the world police anymore. If the middies want to cut off our oil supply, fuck them. We have more than enough oil without them, and with out fracking. If we can ship oil all the way from the middle east, we can do the same thing from Alaska.

A far as the two or three factions and the others, it is not our problem. I say end all foreign aid and solve or own problems a home first. Thankfully Obanation can not be reelected. As for Blilery those that pray God foribid we have another gun grabber.

DAMN IT

 

Yeah, but there's always that "ounce of prevention" concept. I mean, we have someone like Kim Jong Il who makes all kinds of threats against America on a regular basis, but everyone knows he's just a punk spouting off to maintain the adoration of his people.

Considering this new group, even with just small numbers, has taken over sizable portions of two countries, it's pretty clear they mean business. And I don't think they'll be content to just have control over Iraq and Syria. So, do we fight them there? Or wait till they come here?

 

One thing to remember with the N Korean dictator: he has gotten Pres Obama to yield to him on the international stage on multitude of occasions. The only nation which is a true check on his arrogance and insanity is Communist China.

 

[h=1]Iraq Army Recaptures Saddam's Birthplace From ISIS Militants[/h]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/04/iraq-isis-fighting_n_5557719.html