I think the whole discussion about the "legal age" or "at what age REAL people have sex" is missing the point. It's not about the legal age to have sex. It's about what kind of stories the operator of the site wants. Keep in mind, they'll be legally responsible for whatever someone posts here.

 

This site might be held legally responsible? Yep, yea, sure; I'll be ready to believe that when pigs fly.
Have you ever read Flowers In The Attic? It's almost as bad as A Child Called It. The first is fiction and the second fact.

 

I'm a free market guy, and realize the owner can do whatever he/she wants.

The problem has been the implementation

we see this at the top of the stories page

and then many are left to question why their favorite stories, with character 16 and up, were missing, when it only takes seconds to go to the 'Young' section, and sort by views or ratings (as the quote above promotes) and to this day find stories of 12 and 14 year olds that have been up for years.

Well, there is this...although the case was mostly concerned with visual depictions (photos and film), I would think it would be hard to argue that the written word enjoyed fewer free speech privileges than film
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/17/us/virtual-child-pornography-ban-overturned.html

 

It's hard to say what the reason for the age change was. Morally cannot be fully proven due to the allowing of other types of stories like snuff and cannibalism. The same is true of legally due to the previous examples along with bestiality. Another possible explanation is simplifying the rules after all images of minors isn't allowed and when the initial rule change(16 & under) happened bestiality and scat stories were included with the ban. Again images of both are not allowed.

The fact is we will only know the real reason for the change when Nophest decides to tell us it. Since he hasn't felt it necessary to communicate with the membership in years we may never know why.

 

Dude. It's all pornography. What the under 18 stuff constitutes is illegal pornography in the USA and most ( ? ) countries.

Yeah, I think so. Mostly in the attitude and lack of communication though.

I can't really fault the roll-out of the policy. Working via reports and authors voluntarily fixing/deleting their stories is the only realistic way to do it. Yes, it leaves a lot of disallowed stuff in the archives, but the site owner probably feels that he's got enough CYA to protect himself the way it is.

Yes, there is that. I expect that if it came to it, prose containing depictions of underage porn would end up in the clear. However, I doubt any porn story website owner or book publisher considers themselves as having the resources to defend themselves all the way to the Supreme Court.

 

Newer cases don't have to go all the way to the Supreme Court, they can cite the precedent in their initial trial court.

 

this site is run by conservitive Bible Bashing americans why they are here is beyond me 16 is LEGAL age in nearly every other country in the world 14 in Spain Estonia and many others.. This site dose need to move away obama fucks their country and fucks everything else I can't believe the people of america were so stupid to vote such an uneducated idiot like him..........

 

I'm going to guess you mean "Bible thumping," although the other interpretations suggest some intriguing possibilities.

As it is in 32 US States as well. Only 10 states put it off until 18 (although the federal rule says 18. Don't ask me how there can be both a federal law and 50 different states ones. I mean, I know, but don't ask me, the answer is annoying). This suggests that there are probably other elements in play, at which point location becomes less important. Maybe they just like it this way, anyone ever think of that?

Given that these laws have existed for decades, I can't imagine what Obama has to do with it. But good show on the "uneducated" crack. I mean, the guy only has one degree from Harvard. Who does he think he is, am I right?

 

so Joe Long edited all of "One Thousand Apologies" to remove references to age but still got banned this morning, with all the stories deleted.

 

You are such a moron - you've been told this several times....The site is run by Europeans. The paid employees are there and in Asia. Want to try again?

 

TSK. . . TSK. . . ''you're mud wrestling with a pig''

 

He did not. He just reposted his stories verbatim without making any changes.

 

Not all mud wresting is bad. Just sayin'.

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It is NOT all pornography! Taking part in a sexual act for the titllation of others is pornography. Having an erection, menstruating, getting married at the age of 16 and having children is not pornography. I will concede that the way stories are presented by many illiterate posters on the site and forum could be cpnsidered to be pornographic but any depiction of anyone, under the age of 18, having any normal human sexual feelings have been banned. This rules out any explanation of why any character in a story should react in an abnormal way. It also makes a total mockery of the categories which many claim should be banned. Why should anyone suddenly become a rapist, zoophiliac, fetishist, cannibal, or any number of other deviations, at the age of 18? You generally have to go back to events which happened when they were a child. This is no longer possible in this site and has now led to the mass of wall-of-words wank-fests which are now so common on here.

Why should any author take the trouble to build a backstory to the way his characters act and react as a great deal will be based in their early life?

We have now reached a point where the vast majority of stories will begin with "Do you want to fuck yes she replied he flung her on the bed and fucked her to death more she shouted fuck me o fuck me he cum and started all over again."

The internet is said to be the cause of the dumbing down of social interaction. it is certainly the cause of the dumbing down the writing skills of the plebians.

 

P.S.: Are you Joe's sockpuppet now or why did you think it's a great idea to just post his story again?

 

bullshit

parts 1 and 2 were cleaned up two weeks ago, 3 and 4 on Wed, then Friday was banned

 

I've checked the stories yesterday, and many of them still mentioned Hannah's age as 16 or 17, and all definitely deal with one 19-year-old's troubles with having sex with underage girls. It's the point and theme of the story, the whole plot wouldn't make any sense without it.

 

BTW, I know Joe. sillyme3 and I are both characters in his story. I told Joe about this site, and he wrote his story. We brought sillyme3 here, she's about to release her own erotic novel on Amazon. She used to own one of the biggest adult video stores in town and says she knows who all the pervs are.

Hannah's age might be implied, but it's never explicitly mentioned in the edited versions. 16 or 17 or any other number is never stated for her.

True, the plot wouldn't make sense. It's about his troubles having sex with girls of ANY age, then he does find love and sex with a younger one, and that's a major source of conflict.

But is it to the point where it can't even be implied? ("I'm 20 and she is younger")

 

Of course it can't be implied. There's no difference between "she's 16 years old" and "she's in her freshman year in high school". The point of it is not to feature under-18 characters having sex. It's not "oh, I can't say the age in numbers any more".

If you feel like you need to "work around" the existing rules, then that's a strong indicator that you're breaking them.

 

I agree with that statement, although freshman would be 14 or 15. We know that the vast majority of students in a certain grade will be within a specific age range, so that example is much more explicit than implied - and Hannah's grade is not mentioned, only that she goes to school in a building that houses 7th thru 12th grades.