I just finished a visit, and what became a bit of an argument with a local human rights activist.
His statement that has become the catalyst of my starting this thread, is the following................

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend".
This coming from a "Human Rights activist" !!!!!!!!!!!!!

His feelings are that Ethnic bigotry will end, with Religious bigotry replacing it.
His insistence that with the Islamic invasion into the West, that it will unite Ethnic groups against what they feel is a substantial threat, as well as the undermining, and destruction of their long established way of life.

Part of his position is that Ethnic groups will stand together across the West in massive protest against Islamic immigration, immediately after ISIS attacks on the West, especially North America, if not before because of the massive influx of Muslims into the West..

Your thoughts?

 

Religion is the new black. ...?

 

Not sure, perhaps the Nation of Islam might.

 

That uh, that is very interesting.

And possibly frightfully prescient.

 

Of course!

We should unite against the common enemy - The Judean People's Front!



Splitters!

 

We'll go back to hating on each other as soon as the Muslims are dealt with, obviously.

 

Unfortunately it's in the human race to hate or fear some particular religion or race of people just look back through history, I'm sure when this is all over we'll find someone new to do just the same mores the pity, they say the biggest killer of us is us

 

It's a scary thought. Prophetic? It just may be!
Governments at the moment are trying to be politically correct, and as humanitarians, coming to the aid of peoples who are seriously at risk.
The sad thing is that the people flooding into the West, are not being scrutinized as what would take place normally when entering another country.

Sharia Law is not only a request, but a demand in several areas now! In some communities, Sharia Law is even being practiced in pockets of those communities, in direct contradiction to the law of the land.

The floodgates have been opened without safeguards em-placed to adequately protect the original existing populations against the horrors the refugees were fleeing, being visited upon their rescuers. The thought of, and likelihood of having segments of those same people who were rescued from their nightmares, inflicting their past nightmares on their rescuers is very real because of the lack of controls and scrutiny of the countries being invaded. And yes, it is an invasion. Refugees have forced their way into Western nations, not unlike invading armies.

Along with peoples who simply want a safer life for their families, those who wish the destruction of the West have now entered the West under the guise of perceived refugee status. Nightmares will follow, not only against the West, but also against Muslims who do not wish to take part in the extremists desire to overthrow, and take control of the Free World.

The invasion of Iraq, has not only destabilized the Middle East, but years later, has the possibility of a new world wide conflict.

With the election in America quickly approaching, choose wisely.
If there was ever a time to have the person filing the position in the Oval Office having both an extensive understanding of domestic, and international issues, this is the time.

 

A long time ago, I resigned myself to the fact that humanity is a garbage species that will always seek out a way to, if not outright destroy itself, at least cause as much unnecessary suffering as possible. It is the natural state of things, it seems. We declare our love for our fellow man while stabbing him in the back and gang raping his wife.

 

But, but, but.... We had to find the weapons of mass destruction...
(How is that search going, by the way?)

But Saddam had ties to Al Qaeda...
(Never proven.)

But we had to bring Democracy to the Iraqi people...
(How has that worked out?)

A lot of people got behind JuniorBush and Tricky Dick II, out of fear and gullibility. We were mired down there a long time and lost a lot of troops because of it, not to mention the Iraqi casualties. As well, we left the region more screwed up than when we started. And now a new fear is taking its place. How bad will we screw it up this time?

 

I think what I find so terrifying is that what this all is, this conflict, is essentially a culture war. It's not necessarily for territory or resources, or against tyranny or oppression. It's culture and ideas. That's very dangerous. And I find it frightening. I can shoot a person. I can't shoot an idea. Attacking an idea might change some people's opinions, but there are those whose resolve would only be strengthened. How do you fight an idea? With another idea?

 

In Saddam's place, we now have ISIS!
An intervention?
Not one that turned out well.

 

Of course it didn't.



This is George Bush.



This is a sack of rocks.

Which one led us into a needless invasion of Iraq, destroying the country's infrastructure, dismantling it's government and military, costing thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, and costing untold billions of dollars, in a search for weapons that didn't exist?

 

How much of the American debt can be attributed to the invasion of Iraq, the repercussions it created, and the accumulated aftermath?
The Arab Spring.
The political disruption throughout the Arab world.
ISIS.
Syria.
The refugee exodus from the Middle East.
There are few who would dispute that the invasion of Iraq, is the catalyst on which these events unfolded.
What is the human toll.
What has been the International costs?
What is the accumulated American debt?

 

I don't believe you have never seen footage of young children from many backgrounds playing together; there are enough of them around. Hate and fear are learned behaviour. As is intolerance.

And it is taught by adults.

In the words of the song, "God bless little children, while they're still to young too hate."

 

It's unusual to hear a human rights activist using a phrase like "The enemy of my enemy, is my friend".
It's unusual to hear a human rights activist suggesting existing ethnic bigotry, will be replaced with religious bigotry, against one specific religion, and he appears to support it!
He based his argument on the invasion of Iraq, along with the aftermath it's caused.
The reason extremists could so easily entice others to follow their cause, to the point of mindless self destruction through martyrdom.
The reason why the Arab Spring has taken place.
I was losing the argument when our conversation was ending.
Why? Because everything he was saying was plausible.
He'd obviously done his research, along with having this conversation with others many times before ours. Well rehearsed.
Hence this thread.
So..........
How do I dispute his position?
Or.........
Is his position more likely, than not?
.

 

Look at the posts here, the various anti-Muslim threads, the misinformation people are spreading about Islam, taking the Quran out of context to support their hatred.

You tell me.

 

Every point he made, at least the points I could remember, I verified through legitimate news sources.
Mind you, nothing anywhere near, not even close to the extremes he was suggesting, but there just the same.

That's the thing. If one person out of a thousand commits an atrocity, do you condemn the remaining nine hundred and ninety nine for his transgressions?
That was his point, and that was being normally no, but because of this particular religion, and it's expectations, circumstances make everyone suspect.

My understanding of the laws as they exist in most civilized countries, is that promoting harm, or death is considered illegal activity. Extremist clerics, or protesting Muslims promoting harm, or death would justify arrest.
Arrest, imprison, and, or deporting the offenders, would go a long way in protecting the masses, as well as protecting an established way of life in the West from harm or degradation.

 

If you said to a Muslim country you have to accept a million Christian refugees what do you think the local population would say? Would they welcome them with open arms?????

 

I had to think about this for a few moments. But realistically, good point.