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Can Muslims live in America as fellow citizens?

  1. Yes they can. We should welcome them with open arms.

    46 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. No they can't. We should ban them from entering our country.

    42 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. Yes but only if they renounce the teachings of Mohammd and reform their religion.

    17 vote(s)
    16.2%
  1. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Islam appeals to Arabs because it once enabled them to create what was probably the richest and most advanced civilization in the world.

    Islam appeals to some blacks because they imagine that historically it has treated their race with more justice. The reality is that the Arab slave trade of Negroes began centuries before the European slave trade. It continued until the second half of the nineteenth century, when it was smashed by European military action.

    Arabs castrated their male slaves. In addition, they cut off the penises of Negro slaves. Before anesthesia and anesthetics many Negroes died from this cruel practice.
     
  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Those are important questions.

    I believe that a terrible truth is less socially dangerous than an agreeable falsehood.

    Race relations are one area where I agree more with the Republican Party than the Democratic Party. I advocate a color blind system of justice. I think blacks should not be discriminated against. I think they should not be discriminated in favor of. I think they are discriminated in favor of through affirmative action. I want affirmative action to come to and end.

    Because blacks have a much higher crime rate than whites, I think a much higher percentage of them should be in prison. I also think that race profiling is a legitimate way to proactively reduce crime.

    Blacks are much more likely to be crime victims than are whites. Those who are sympathetic to blacks do them no favor by advocating a less effective criminal justice system.
     
    1. shootersa
      Well dog you got your wish. More Blacks are in jail than whites.
      As for race profiling, perhaps you should try it on your end; you know, have government decide that whatever you are deserves special attention, and every time you step off your porch you are stopped and questioned and required to prove your identity and that you aren't doing anything wrong.

      You would quickly understand the meaning of "police state"
       
      shootersa, May 30, 2016
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    the more I learn about Islam, the more trouble I’m having distinguishing between "peaceful" Muslims and the ones that are trying to kill us.
    Please comment on my post and feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong.

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    I had this amusing engagement about 20 years ago (in Richmond VA or Corpus Christi TX):
    I had been fascinated by Sufi Literature
    I was interested in finding either reading material or wall posters. The proprietor appeared to be from South Asia (Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan?). He did his best to steer me to the more salacious and titillating print and visual media, which would have matched what is on this site and its sister sights. His solicitous and engaging mischievousness on its face would have me conclude that those who do not live in authoritarian countries where religion is used and promoted as a means of social control would appear to be quite Westernized (Americanized) in their behavior. I would add that his 'graciousness' towards me, the stranger in his small establishment, surpassed similar 'greetings' that I did receive either in Richmond or Corpus Christi.

    Flash forward 20 years after the Iraq incursion and the now drone-conflict in Afghanistan and Pakistan with the resulting domestic Islamophobia:
    I wouldn't be as sure about his disposition and would not blame him if he had latent resentments against the general media framing of his faith that also bring suspicion upon him. He, as many in the white 'put-upon' public work long hours and has gone without the privileges of one who has not sought government largess or benefits. As an other hard-working American resident/citizen his loyalty to this nation is as proportional as our acceptance of his potential fidelity.
     
  4. Distant Lover

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    Wow! That's pretty disgusting all right. :eek:

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  5. Hardrive

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    No, I don't know Anders Breivik, who he is, what he did or who inspired him.

    Yes, I do know there are more than a billion Muslims in the world, but I don't think we need to kill them all. Most of them live in their own countries and subject their own citizens to their barbarity. We only have to worry about the ones that are actively threating our lives and our way we live. We are under attack by those people and we have to defend ourselves. Best way to do that is to get these people under control. To hell with PC tactics we have to get serious. We need to Lay down the law. Either they live peacefully under our laws and cultural norms or they can get the hell out. If they won't accept our rules and won't leave... then we have to kick them out using any and all means. It may be messy and bloody but it's a much better alternative then to let them have their way. Moslems have an invasive culture that starts slow and builds up speed as they see weakness in our resistance. They crawl until they can walk, walk until they can run and run until they can climb on top of us and take over. We can't give them an inch. We are the host countries and they are the guest. They came to live in our lands we did not go to live in theirs. They must assimilate into our culture and not try to force their backward culture on us. Those are the rules of immigration. Take it or leave it.

    You are wrong about how Islam works. They got their marching orders way back 1400 years ago by Mohammed. They advance though invasion and submission of their targets. If we submit in any way it will encourage them to charge forward. If we resist them they will slow down and rethink their strategy. But they will not stop or give up. They have to be defeated and contained within their own lands in order to stop their aggression. A good examp of how that works is ISIS. Once they got going they went into full charge mode and steamrolled across Arabia. They used their success to recruit more fighters. Once they started loosing their recruits started to defect and they began to fall back fast. It would be a mistake for us to stop advancing on them and keep advacneing until we complexly drive them out and then conduct war crime trails to get the ones that will go underground.

    And one more thing Jayney. Islam is the enemy. And any Moslem that is so dedicated to Islam that they are willing to give their lives to accomplish the goals of Islam, they too are the enemy. These are the very people that are the jihadist that are trying to kill us. There is no way we can negotiate with them or convince them to do anything but what they believe Allah wants them to do. For some reason this idea has totally alluded you and keeps you in the mistaken notion that Islamist will become our friends if we extend an olive branch. Islamist don't want peace. Islamist only talk peace when they need more time to plan their attack.
     
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      Sort of like invasive species. They become introduced to native habitats and destroy the natural balance. The mid Atlantic area has a severe problem with a invasive fish called the snake head. The biologists warn if they are not eliminated they will kill off all of the native species of fish.
       
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    2. 69magpie
      That sounds like you're describing what happened to the Native Americans as the European invasion started to destroy their world..
       
      69magpie, Jun 3, 2016
    3. deleted user 777 698
      You have to stop blaming the people that are dead and long gone. Everyone knows there were terrible things done throughout history. However we can't change history. Man records history to learn from it. Not to repeat the terrible things. We are much better educated than our ancestors are we not? It's high time we stopped repeating the mistakes of the past.
       
    4. Hardrive
      Mr. Smith: Was the above post addressed to me? If so, I don't understand. The way XN post these comments I sometimes loose track of who is speaking to whom.
       
      Hardrive, Jun 3, 2016
    5. 69magpie
      Was directed at me.
       
      69magpie, Jun 3, 2016
  6. Distant Lover

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    Anders Behring Breivik (Norwegian pronunciation: [ˈɑnːəʂ ˈbeːrɪŋ ˈbrɛiviːk];[6]born 13 February 1979) is a Norwegian terrorist, who committed the 2011 Norway attacks. On 22 July 2011, he killed eight people by detonating a van bomb amid the Regjeringskvartalet in Oslo, then shot dead 69 participants of aWorkers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya.[7][8] In August 2012, he was convicted of mass murder, causing a fatal explosion, andterrorism.[9][10]

    On the day of the attacks, Breivik electronically distributed a compendium of texts entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, describing his militant ideology.[11][12][13][14] In them, he lays out a worldview encompassing opposition to Islam.[15][16] The texts call Islam and "Cultural Marxism" the enemy,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
     
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  8. Distant Lover

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    I am glad that the French are finally hitting back at the Muslims. I wish the Germans and Swedes would too.
     
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    You are so right. Had the French done nothing there would have been several more terrorist attacks by now. France's big pushback has sent the Islamist a strong message. Attacks on France will cost you more then you are willing to pay. The Islamist tested France's resolve to fight back and they found the French government up to the task. Contrary to what some people believe, the only way to fight Islam is to show them you will not tolerate their aggression. Now let's see if France will continue their tough stand or if they will allow themselves to be taken in, once again, by Moslem claims that they too are the victims of Islamic extremist and that Islam is a religion f peace.
     
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    With the refugees we should take the Christians, send the Jews to Israel, and tell the Muslims, "Go over to Saudi Arabia. See if they care about their problem."
     
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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    sorry I must have fallen asleep, did I miss something ?
     
  12. Pussy.Patrol

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    If everything was hunky dory there'd be no consternation and no posting. Go onto YouTube there's thousands and thousands of videos discussing this very topic. If there wasn't an issue there'd be very few videos uploaded. Surely there can't be thousands and thousands of people with the wrong idea?

    No doubt 69magpie will say they're all wrong.

    Why are there so many far right groups worldwide? Every country has them. Why? It's because the people are concerned.
     
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  13. Distant Lover

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    Thank you. I do make an effort to inform myself. Although I am a university graduate, I have continued to learn since graduation.

    Internet forums that discuss politics attract people with strong opinions who are not well informed. When their prejudices are challenged by facts and logical reasoning they do not reconsider their opinions; they respond angrily. The ignorance of my detractors here is only equaled by their arrogance and vulgarity.
     
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  14. Pussy.Patrol

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    Thirty (30) women molested at concert in Germany and nothing said in the mainstream press. Why?

    http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/arti...auf-30-Frauen-bei-Musikfest-in-Darmstadt.html

    "The young women who reported the harassment said they were encircled and groped by groups of men in a series of assaults, reminiscent of those at the New Year's Eve festivities in Cologne.

    "The women have reported that the [perpetrators] appeared to be men from the South Asia region," police said in a statement."
     
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  15. Pussy.Patrol

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    Actions speak louder than words.

    http://www.dw.com/en/german-police-...al-attackers-at-darmstadt-festival/a-19296981

    Cologne attacks:

    "Investigators in Cologne received 1,170 formal complaints of attacks - 492 of them related to assaults of a sexual nature. Eye witnesses and victims described the perpetrators as being mainly from North Africa and the Arabian peninsula; some were claimed to be Arabic speakers".

    What would you do if your wife, girlfriend or daughter was attacked?

    If these people hadn't of been let into Europe these 1200 attacks would not have happened.
     
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      I say.....keep the mother fuckers totally isolated, in a barren wasteland for instance.
       
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    Now we have a leftist push for immigration rearing its head on this forum.


    Every country has it's issues:


    Here we have some refugees raping a girl and walking...


    http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...e/news-story/7eabbe28bedba57bcf4180e151bad899

    Let's see, they come into the country as refugees. They get government housing, government benefits, government healthcare, government schooling. Then they rape a girl and get government legal aid to represent them in a government court and they get let off.
     
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    The government didn't let them off, the NSW courts did......the same courts that let Man Monis walk free until he was due in court for murdering his ex wife.

    In any other state he would have been awaiting his trial in a prison cell.....but your mob up there let him walk free to kill two more people......well done New South Wales. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  18. shootersa

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    Shooter is startled.
    Wait. You mean other countries have bleeding heart judges?
    The Hell you say!
     
  19. Hardrive

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    It seems to me that there is an effort throughout Europe to try and hide the enormity of their error in letting in hundreds of thousands of migrants (code for Moslems.) Now they are compounding their error by not reporting "migrant crimes" and giving the perpetrators light sentences. This sends the wrong message to the migrant criminals. The message is that they can continue to assault, rape and kill citizens of the host country with no serious consequences.

    To me these are not the acts of sane government officials... these are the acts of corrupt officials that are being paid off for looking the other way. My question is, who is paying them? Who has that much money? Who has an interest in flooding Europe with Moslems? My guess would be Saudi Arabia. They have more money then they know what to do with and they are the chief sponsors of building very large Mosques throughout Europe. It seems to me that they are expecting large Moslem Populations to migrate to Europe. I'd be interested in hearing the opinions of Europeans.

    But the citizens of European countries are not totally blameless. They have to take responsibility for what is going on in Europe. They voted in their government and even after they see what is going on, they keep those same people in power by re-voting for them. Is this insanity or just party politics at work? Until Europeans wake-up and take matters into their own hands they will keep getting what their getting now.
     
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  20. Drigo

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    Muslims want to take over the world. It's their mission. We have no choice regarding living with them. In ancient history Muslims were restrained but now they are growing again as population and are moving into all continents. We can only hope to adjust socially or there will be mayhem. Understand, Muslims account for roughly 1/3 of the worlds population - NOT a small group.
     
    1. Hardrive
      there are over 7 Billion people In the world. Only about 1.2 to 1.5 Billion Moslems. Their numbers are only about 1/6th of the world population. The vast majority of Moslems are illiterate and live in poverty. I don't think they have the means or the will to raise up to fight for the trouble makers. In fact, I think that if we took the yoke of Islam off their backs most would raise up against the people that oppress them and keep them in poverty.
       
      Hardrive, Jun 1, 2016