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  1. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Lots of Deplorables will lose their coverage.
     
  2. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    most all those folks have jobs.....they get healthcare at work....

    Obama Care 85% in it are subsidized by taxpayers....
     
  3. stumbler

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    CBO report says 14 million more would be uninsured by 2018
     
  4. stumbler

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    First of all I think Trumpcare is in real political trouble. Democrats sure aren't going to support it and a lot of Republicans are backpedaling like a crayfish that just saw a Cajun. Some Republicans are even saying passing Trump care could cost them their majority in the House. So Trumpcare may not even reach Trump's desk.

    Which would be a good thing for Trump. The people who voted for him heard him promise that everyone would be covered under Trumpcare and it would be much much better.

    And now that they are learning even if they are not one of the 14 million who lose their insurance with Trumpcare next year they will end up paying a lot more for less. And they are already saying they will not forgive Trump if it turns out he lied to them.
     
  5. foxy36c

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    He lied to them.
    He lied to everybody, except Russia who Trump owes winning the election to.
     
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  6. ace's n 8's

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    GOOD...FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC.

    14 Million less people that I have to assist in getting healthcare insurance, this is a good day in the neighborhood.

    In this phase anyhow, the private sector will be opened up for more folks to decide which doctors that want to choose from, along with providing a choice to which insurance they want to buy.

    Co-ops will be an up and coming healthcare package for folks, which is something that I am going to do some serious research on, for me and my families personal healthcare needs.

    Finally, the federal fucking government allowing folks to make their own decisions...AGAIN.


    Political suicide?, hardly....ACA was political suicide for the leftists, as it continues to spiral to it's own prescribed death, and the GOP knew that, as not one of them voted for it.

    No he didn't, he said he wanted everyone to have access to healthcare, in which they will, and have it more affordable, in which it will... there is also a private sector out there that has the ability to provide an affordable healthcare insurance package for folks.

    Trump didn't lie, and you know that.
    Blah...blah...blah.
     
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    115th CONGRESS
    1st Session
    H. R. 1313

    To clarify rules relating to nondiscriminatory workplace wellness programs.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    March 2, 2017
    Ms. Foxx (for herself and Mr. Walberg) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Energy and Commerce, and Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

    A BILL
    To clarify rules relating to nondiscriminatory workplace wellness programs.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
    SECTION 1. Short title.

    This Act may be cited as the “Preserving Employee Wellness Programs Act”.

    SEC. 2. Findings.

    Congress finds that—

    (1) Congress has a strong tradition of protecting and preserving employee workplace wellness programs, including programs that utilize a health risk assessment, biometric screening, or other resources to inform and empower employees in making healthier lifestyle choices;

    (2) health promotion and prevention programs are a means to reduce the burden of chronic illness, improve health, and limit the growth of health care costs;

    (3) in enacting the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111–148), Congress intended that employers would be permitted to implement health promotion and prevention programs that provide incentives, rewards, rebates, surcharges, penalties, or other inducements related to wellness programs, including rewards of up to 50 percent off of insurance premiums for employees participating in programs designed to encourage healthier lifestyle choices; and

    (4) Congress has struck an appropriate balance among employees, health care providers, and wellness plan sponsors to protect individual privacy and confidentiality in a wellness program which is designed to improve health outcomes.

    SEC. 3. Nondiscriminatory workplace wellness programs.

    (a) Uniformity across Federal agencies.—

    (1) PROGRAMS OFFERED IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EMPLOYER-SPONSORED HEALTH PLAN.—

    (A) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, workplace wellness programs and programs of health promotion or disease prevention offered by an employer in conjunction with an employer-sponsored health plan that meet the requirements set forth in subparagraph (B) shall be considered to be in compliance with—

    (i) the acceptable examinations and inquiries set forth in section 102(d)(4)(B) of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12112(d)(4)(B));

    (ii) section 2705(d) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(d)); and

    (iii) section 202(b)(2) of the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008 (42 U.S.C. 2000ff–1(b)(2)).

    (B) PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.—The requirements referenced in subparagraph (A) are that—

    (i) the programs described in such subparagraph comply with section 2705(j) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(j));

    (ii) any reward provided or offered by a program described in such subparagraph shall be less than or equal to the maximum reward amounts provided for by section 2705(j)(3)(A) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(j)(3)(A)), regardless of whether such programs are otherwise subject to such limitations; and

    (iii) the programs described in such subparagraph comply with any regulations promulgated with respect to section 2705(j) of such Act by the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, or the Secretary of the Treasury.

    (C) SAFE HARBOR.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, section 501(c)(2) of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12201(c)(2)) shall apply to workplace wellness programs or programs of health promotion or disease prevention offered by an employer in conjunction with an employer-sponsored health plan.

    (2) OTHER PROGRAMS OFFERING MORE FAVORABLE TREATMENT FOR ADVERSE HEALTH FACTORS.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, workplace wellness programs and programs of health promotion or disease prevention offered by an employer that provide for more favorable treatment of individuals with adverse health factors as described in 45 CFR 146.121(g) (or any successor regulations) shall be considered to be in compliance with—

    (A) the acceptable examinations and inquiries set forth in section 102(d)(4)(B) of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12112(d)(4)(B));

    (B) section 2705(d) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(d)); and

    (C) section 202(b)(2) of the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008 (42 U.S.C. 2000ff–1(b)(2)).

    (3) PROGRAMS NOT OFFERED IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EMPLOYER-SPONSORED HEALTH PLAN.—

    (A) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, workplace wellness programs and programs of health promotion or disease prevention offered by an employer that are not offered in conjunction with an employer-sponsored health plan that are not described in section 2705(j) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(j)) that meet the requirement set forth in subparagraph (B) shall be considered to be in compliance with—

    (i) the acceptable examinations and inquiries as set forth in section 102(d)(4)(B) of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12112(d)(4)(B));

    (ii) section 2705(d) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(d)); and

    (iii) section 202(b)(2) of the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008 (42 U.S.C. 2000ff–1(b)(2)).

    (B) LIMITATION ON REWARDS.—The requirement referenced in subparagraph (A) is that any reward provided or offered by a program described in such subparagraph shall be less than or equal to the maximum reward amounts provided for by section 2705(j)(3)(A) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(j)(3)(A)), and any regulations promulgated with respect to such section by the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, or the Secretary of the Treasury.

    (b) Collection of information.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the collection of information about the manifested disease or disorder of a family member shall not be considered an unlawful acquisition of genetic information with respect to another family member as part of a workplace wellness program described in paragraph (1) or (2) offered by an employer (or in conjunction with an employer-sponsored health plan described in section 2705(j) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300gg–4(j))) and shall not violate title I or title II of the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008 (Public Law 110–233). For purposes of the preceding sentence, the term “family member” has the meaning given such term in section 201 of the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act (Public Law 110–233).

    (c) Rule of construction.—Nothing in subsection (a)(1)(A) shall be construed to prevent an employer that is offering a wellness program to an employee from requiring such employee, within 45 days from the date the employee first has an opportunity to earn a reward, to request a reasonable alternative standard (or waiver of the otherwise applicable standard). Nothing in subsection (a)(1)(A) shall be construed to prevent an employer from imposing a reasonable time period, based upon all the facts and circumstances, during which the employee must complete the reasonable alternative standard. Such a reasonable alternative standard (or waiver of the otherwise applicable standard) is provided for in section 2705(j)(3)(D) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300 gg–4(j)(3)(D)) (and any regulations promulgated with respect to such section by the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, or the Secretary of the Treasury).




    For those that either cannot or just t do not understand what this means it is as simply as possible.
    The congress just passed a bill now a law that gives employers and insurance companies the right to force you to undergo genetic testing prior to or in order to maintain status or to be financially responsible for the costs associated with potential outcomes. In other words let them use your most intimate info to decide your fate or die in the streets.
     
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      Doesn't say that at all.
      [​IMG]
       
      shootersa, Mar 14, 2017
  8. xxxaddict76

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    Trumpcare:

    Health Bill Would Add 24 Million Uninsured but Save $337 Billion, Report Says

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/...-budget-office.html?partner=msft_msn&referer=

    Trump promised not to cut Medicaid. His health bill will cut $880 billion from it.

    http://www.vox.com/2017/3/13/14914812/trump-ahca-medicaid-cuts

    WH analysis of ObamaCare replacement projects bigger coverage gap than CBO: report

    The White House document, obtained by Politico, projects that 26 million people would lose coverage over the next decade under the GOP's healthcare plan.

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...placement-projects-more-insurance-losses-than

    Republican bill would let employers demand workers’ get genetic testing

    http://mashable.com/2017/03/11/repu...d=mash-com-social-huffpo-partner#7Zol23Xwhkqp
     
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    I noticed several posts stating Valerie Jarrett was moving in with President Obama to start a shadow government. All this reported by some right wing tabloid with an unnamed source.

    It is funny you right wing retards call out fake news with unnamed sources, but yet you believe a tabloid with unnamed sources.

    Did Obama Aide Valerie Jarrett Move in with the Obamas to ‘Mastermind’ an Anti-Trump Insurgency?

    Web sites are citing a tabloid claim that Valerie Jarrett, a friend and close adviser to the Obamas, is sharing their home as part of a plot to oust President Trump from office.

    http://www.snopes.com/2017/03/02/valerie-jarrett-move-in-obamas/
     
    1. shootersa
      Well then, why did Valerie move in with the Obamas?
      Or is it just and extended visit?
       
      shootersa, Mar 14, 2017
    2. xxxaddict76
      @shootersa. Valerie didn't. But you believe those alternative facts.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 14, 2017
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    Last. Let's not forget President Dipshit's bestie Iowa Republican Steve King. Can you get any more White pride than this. I did love the responses to this.

    King landed himself in hot water Sunday when he retweeted an Islamophobic cartoon and praised the illustrator for understanding “that culture and demographics are our destiny.”

    “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies,” King tweeted, apparently an attack on Muslims and immigrants entering the U.S.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58c6d821e4b081a56dee242c?
     
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  11. Distant Lover

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    Most low income whites voted for Trump. Most low paid jobs do not have health coverage. This presents low income white Trump supporters woth a double whammy. They do not get health coverage at work. They cannot afford private insurance. The Affordable Care Act was made for those people. Unfortunately, most are so stupid that they did not realize it. Instead they listen to Rush Limbaugh's lies.

    Those guys are so far to the left of the IQ bell curve that they believe the lies of those far to the right of the political spectrum. They want their factory jobs back because they have not got the intelligence to pass a mental aptitude test to be accepted for a training program for skilled blue collar jobs. They are so ignorant that they do not know that it was Democrats who made their unskilled factory jobs desirable.
     
    1. shootersa
      Trump voters tend to be older, at or just below the median for income, at or slightly above the median for education, and tend to live in rural areas.
      The coasts overwhelmingly voted Clinton; California, Oregon, Washington and most of the east coast states went to Clinton.

      To continue to characterize Trump supporters as uneducated, stupid, needing government handouts or as just plain gullible is exactly why Clinton lost the election.
      She lost it when she arrogantly characterized Trump supporters as "deplorables".

      But you already knew that.
       
      shootersa, Mar 14, 2017
  12. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    How many people are covered by Obamacare?
     
  13. xxxaddict76

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    20 million total.
     
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  14. ace's n 8's

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    STOP...just stop right now.

    This is not about Obama anymore, it's still about Bush, and will be about Trump as of January 20th.
     
  15. ace's n 8's

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    How many?, furthermore how many would have coverage after ACA was in full implementation?
     
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    20 million TOTAL so far.
     
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    An unpleasant 'TrumpCare' surprise

    If the Affordable Care Act ever fails, it will be because of Republicans.

    It was Senate Republicans, led by Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, who drained money from “risk corridors” created to protect insurance companies from losing money.

    And Republicans in 19 states refused to expand Medicaid, keeping about 4 million eligible Americans away from health insurance offered by ObamaCare.

    It was Trump who cancelled advertising aimed at bringing more people into the program. Congressional Republicans also made a point of scaring away sports teams and celebrities ready to join in public service campaigns to tell people about the benefits of getting health insurance under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

    Who can forget all the scary claims coming from Congressional Republicans and candidate Trump about skyrocketing premiums under ObamaCare? They sounded the alarm without saying that most people in ObamaCare had nothing to fear because of federal subsidies. They also did not mention that premiums would have been higher without ObamaCare.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/juan-williams/323617-juan-williams-an-unpleasant-trumpcare-surprise
     
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    1. shootersa
      There ya go.
      It's the Republicans fault, or Trumps fault, or maybe the Russians fault.
      It isn't the Democrats fault, it isn't Obama's fault, and it certainly isn't Clinton's fault.
       
      shootersa, Mar 14, 2017
  18. ace's n 8's

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    20 million TOTAL so far...With coverage...or without coverage?
     
    1. RandyKnight
      How many total are covered.....

      if it is less than 10% of the country ---fuck it just let the damn thing fail...
      do not force people to buy coverage.....
      do not fine people for not having health insurance
      open up selling across the state borders....
      declare war on drug companies..
      Cap law suites against doctors and hospitals and medical makers at 1 million per person per incident....

      we subsidize people up to 400% above poverty level...
      cut that to 200% or raise the poverty level to something that is real...
       
      RandyKnight, Mar 14, 2017
    2. ace's n 8's
      If they have an automobile, a tv, and a roof over their head, they are not in poverty.
       
      ace's n 8's, Mar 14, 2017
    3. RandyKnight
      see that dont even count to the govt.....
      it is all about reported annual income....
       
      RandyKnight, Mar 14, 2017
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    With coverage.
     
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    Trumpcare continued:

    An unpleasant 'TrumpCare' surprise

    "This bill would weaken Medicare's fiscal sustainability, dramatically increase health care costs for Americans aged 50-64 and put at risk the health care of millions of children and adults with disabilities, and poor seniors who depend on the Medicaid program for long-term services and supports and other benefits," wrote AARP senior vice president Joyce A. Rogers.

    Also standing in opposition to the GOP plan are the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Nurses Association (ANA), the American Hospital Association (AHA) and the American College of Physicians (ACP).

    According to exit polls, voters over the age of 65 backed Trump over Clinton, 52 percent to 45 percent in the November election. The blowback from those voters over the GOP failure to produce a better healthcare plan could produce a nightmare for Republicans in the 2018 midterms.

    President Trump, however, is pushing the bill and Congressional GOP leadership say they are confident that it will pass.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/juan-williams/323617-juan-williams-an-unpleasant-trumpcare-surprise
     
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      shootersa, Mar 14, 2017