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  1. Hellcat41979

    Hellcat41979 J.A.F.A.

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    That's been tried before. It was called eugenics and it resulted in horrors everywhere it was applied. Most notably Nazi Germany but even here in the US it was still horrific. Look up the history of the insane asylums.

    eu·gen·ics
    noun
    1. the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.


    Ironically this is basically the same thing DL wants to apply to his ideas about population controls of inferior races.
     
  2. NicoleDeLint

    NicoleDeLint Porn Star

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    Well lots of stuff here.

    I prefer to call affirmative-action compensatory discrimination so I guess we are agreed on that .

    I'll have to think about what I think about you can't blame blacks for that when they specifically have asked for it and refuse to believe that reverse discrimination exists. I grew up in a majority black neighborhood and most of the people that I spoke to there Believe to the black people are in capable of racism . Something to do with you can't be racist if you don't control the levers of power . I've always found that to be a faulty argument . It's another issue .
    I've met black people even on here who believe that blacks are superior to whites. It seemed sincere but one can never tell if it comes from bravado or genuine arrogance so there's not much more to say about this until telepathy is perfected .
    Your description of black people with the tattoos and the face pins and the dreadlocks and saggy pants can be described in very many young white people except for the dark skin. So I don't know what more to say about that either .
    And as for the soccer moms i'm not sure if you're talking about a racial issue and you mean white soccer moms or any mother who is proud of their children . I do know that people are extremely reluctant to discipline their children in anyway because we are now scared to death of hurting their self-esteem If that is what you're talking about then we are in complete agreement .
     
  3. msman

    msman Porn Star Banned!

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    Selective breeding has been going on as long as there has been anything to breed.
    Nature was the first to do it. Man has done it quite a bit. Look at all of the breeds of dogs, cattle, horses, and every other domestic animal.
    Man can be quite good at selective breeding or very bad at selective breeding.
    Ever looked at an English bulldog?
     
  4. NicoleDeLint

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    Certainly no one can justify the behavior of the Nazis I imagine that nearly everyone knows what eugenics is.

    I've always been mystified that Hitler has been villainized as he should have been but Stalin and chairman Mao have never been anywhere near as villainized . They both killed more people .

    When you are in a Gulag or a a Chinese reeducation center and are about to be murdered I don't think you're going to look up to the sky and say well thank God it wasn't about racism .

    Horrible governments are horrible governments .
     
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  5. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Shooter can see he was too subtle with his post about soccer moms.
    Cmon people; it was a joke. A little poke at some of the posts that crop up, declaring some group or class of people to be inferior and annoying.

    He could have picked on FedEx delivery drivers. Or fast food workers. Or trust fund babies. Or newscasters. The possibilities are endless.
     
    1. msman
      You are allowed to pick on any group or race you choose.
      Other people have the same rights as you.
       
      msman, Apr 19, 2017
  6. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    What is ironic is that the Nazi effort to exterminate the most superior race in existence resulted in the belief, against the evidence, that there are no inferior races.

    What I mean by "superior race" is a race where the members tend to be born with characteristics that are useful to modern civilization with a computer driven economy.

    A superior race will have a high average IQ, and low rates of crime and illegitimacy. An inferior race will have the opposite characteristics. In distinguishing between a superior race and an inferior race I am thoroughly aware that the characteristics overlap between the races.

    Nevertheless, I believe that these characteristics are genetically influenced, if not determined. Consequently, I believe that we should adopt policies that encourage intelligent people with natural inclinations toward law obedience and monogamy to have more children, while we should adopt policies that make it difficult for unintelligent people with natural inclinations toward crime and sexual irresponsibility to have any children at all.

    At the very least, I believe that tax money should not be spent supporting the illegitimate children of the dangerous and the inferior. For criminals I prefer many executions, and long prison sentences at hard labor, inforced by the whip.

    For capital punishment I prefer the gallows and strangulation. Long prison sentences at hard labor, inforced by the whip is the only way to get any value out of people who never should have been born in the first place.
     
    1. shootersa
      Fine. Start with defining race. How do we identify your race that deserves special treatment?
       
      shootersa, Apr 19, 2017
    2. Distant Lover
      I have defined race on previous occasions.
       
      Distant Lover, Apr 19, 2017
    3. Distant Lover
      No race deserves special treatment, but individuals who do deserve special treatment are more frequently found in some races than other races.
       
      Distant Lover, Apr 19, 2017
    4. shootersa
      Really. Shooter is not being cheeky. He really wants to understand.
      Define for Shooter how we can identify members of ............... oh, lets say .................. Orientals.
      If by appearance, tell us what to look for.
      If by genetic testing, what do we look for?
      What about individuals who have some, but not all of the characteristics of an Oriental, either by appearance, or by DNA testing.
      Is it enough that they have some of the characteristics?
      If so, is any of the characteristics enough, or is there a percentage?
       
      shootersa, Apr 19, 2017
    5. Distant Lover
      A race is a group of people with common ancestors. These can be determined by analyzing X and Y chromosomes. Orientals are people whose ancestors have lived in China, Korea, Japan, Mongolia, and Tibet for at least several thousand years. Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Old Testament Israelites and first century Italians.

      Orientals and Ashkenazi Jews have higher IQ averages than those of European Gentile ancestry. For convenience sake I will call those "white Gentiles." White Gentiles have higher IQ averages than the remaining races. African Negroes have averages of 70. That is the ultimate reason for the poverty, crime, and civil unrest of sub Saharan Africa.
       
      Distant Lover, Apr 20, 2017
  7. clarise

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    I did not do a little research.

    I'm recalling lessons from High School Biology.

    Christ.

    All I want to know is whether MsMan thinks that whites and blacks are different species. I'm not going to make his mind up for him. He's been spouting on cats mating chickens for days. All I want to know is what the ever-loving point is.
     
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      Cats love chickens!
      [​IMG]
      But, they do need to be supervised, you know, to avoid an untoward incident ...............
      [​IMG]
       
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  8. msman

    msman Porn Star Banned!

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    My point is and has always been.
    People, humans, did not all come out of Africa from Adam and Eve. Humans were developing in other areas just like they did in Africa. Pretty much from the same ancestors but all those ancestors were not available in all areas. Some areas had one sub species and another area had another sub species.
    Can I get anyone to read what I just posted and try to understand it?
    Not all humans came from the same area from the exact same ancestors. Remember that one sentence. That is it. All I have been trying to say.

    Some races of people have not been civilized as long as other races. They didn't all get together and pace themselves. Some races became civilized much quicker than another race. It isn't like some group of snowflakes where everyone gets a trophy. Some races had cities, languages, built ships, settled other lands. Some races punched each other with sharp sticks and ate them.
    Is that all to hard for people to understand?
     
  9. Hellcat41979

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    You still fail to understand there is no such thing as a true superior race genetic testing keeps showing that the races are all mixed with only marginal differences. Add in the fact with the exception of the complexity of our tool making capabilities and changes in many cultures humans are not much more advanced then they were a few hundred years ago.

    The biggest indicator of this is seen in how are effects us. Hundred year old art will affect people the same now as it did when it was first created. This goes for literature also. Romeo and Juliet is just as powerful of a story now as when William Shakespeare wrote it.
     
  10. NicoleDeLint

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    What you call marginal differences does not hold up when it comes to IQ testing and financial success .

    Asians continue to score one standard deviation above the average for example and tend to have the greatest financial success .

    But the left has been working tirelessly to tell us that this is not true .

    So we've had over 60 years of social engineering from the left that has completely corrupted the field of psychology which consequently completely corrupted American education.

    You are one of their true success stories .
     
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      Well, first, it isn't the left saying anything about this.
      Geneticists are. They have studied the human genome, and in fact have managed to map the entire damn thing. All 3 BILLION of them.

      What geneticists have shown is that there is no gene or cluster of genes common to all blacks or all whites. Were race “real” in the genetic sense, racial classifications for individuals would remain constant across boundaries.
      Which brings us back to the same problem; before you can talk about IQ testing among "races" you need to define what you mean by "race" and then you have to find a statistically significant sample of your group.
      Then, you have to determine what you will test for. Do some research on what IQ is a measurement of, and how it's measured.

      Then you can do the same for another group, another "race", and test them. Repeat as often as you want to, and then we'll see what you learned.

      Shooters guess is, you will find out that really, people are just people.
       
      shootersa, Apr 20, 2017
  11. Distant Lover

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    You will not find many Negroes who love European art of the Renaissance and the plays of William Shakespeare. You will find none who can create art that comes close to emulating that.

    The only thing Negroes have contributed to American culture are a few works of fiction that complain about the way Negroes are treated in the United States, and jazz, blues, rock & roll (where whites eventually surpassed them) and soul music. Negro music has declined in quality since the early 1970's. Rap music is morally depraved and ugly.
     
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      What bullshit.
      Sorry, hate to be blunt, but Dog, you gotta know this is just more nonsense.
       
      shootersa, Apr 20, 2017
  12. Hellcat41979

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    You assume because I believe culture i
    Like DL you fail to see that culture plays more of a part in the differences that is noticed between the races. For example one area DL refuses to acknowledge is the Japanese atrocities of World War II. Following the war the Japanese culture was drastically changed. Yet in other areas of Asia you continued to see similar atrocities from Vietnam and Cambodia to even China. Even DL's benchmark for a superior race the Jews have a very simple history to the Japanese in World War II wiping out what they considered inferior races as they settled the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Only to have a similar fate to the Japanese when they were conquered by the Romans. Again like the Japanese they learned from the experience and their culture adapted. Neither the Japanese or the Jews suddenly evolved following these events in any other way then in their cultures.
     
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  13. NicoleDeLint

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    I Q is independent of culture .

    Financial success is highly Correlable to IQ.

    Every race has had its experiences with genocide . Japanese atrocities the second Congo war and naziism in Europe for example.

    This is a non sequitur.

    You fail to understand this .
     
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      (sigh)
      What IQ test was used, was it the same across all groups compared, and what do you define as "financial success"?
      Cite your sources.

      Not saying there isn't a correlation between IQ and financial success, Shooter is saying show it.
       
      shootersa, Apr 20, 2017
  14. Distant Lover

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    There is a difference between military aggression and violent street crime. Success in war requires intelligence. Violent street crime, of the sort Negroes specialize in, only requires brutality.
     
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      You call what Japan and Germany did in WWII "military aggression?
      What the Japanese did in Nanking was nothing more than street crime; innocent civilians were dragged into the streets, raped, slaughtered and left like garbage where they lay.
      Germany set out to wipe out Jews; they were organized about it, no doubt, but it was anything but "military aggression".

      But you know that.
       
      shootersa, Apr 20, 2017
  15. Hellcat41979

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    Wrong the fact that every race has the same experiences throughout history shows how alike they are and they have the right of being treated the same. I will throw you a bone that there is obvious preferential treatment given to several races and that has had a negative influence on their cultures as pointed out in DL's post about blacks and the arts.

    This is also worrisome considering all of the Snow Flakes in our society nowadays. When you make life to easy you stunt people's development. After all it's in failure that people truly advance. The problem is that some cultures are not allowed to experience failure but instead is given a so called safety net.

    One of my favorite movie quotes comes from Rocky Balboa. "Life's not about how hard you can hit but about how hard you can be hit and keep coming."

    Black culture lost this at some point following the death of Martin Luther king Jr.
     
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  16. NicoleDeLint

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    You've missed my point and I think intentionally .

    You've been trained to jerk your knee every time you hear anything that suggests there are differences between races .

    I could become the very vessel of eloquence in my position and you would not or could not hear it .

    No sense in further arguing with a true believer and victim of the social engineering I was speaking of earlier .

    You are exactly what they wanted to create .

    Sadly you can take no pride in that .
     
  17. justpassingthru

    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    Racism is a disease ... end of story.
     
  18. NicoleDeLint

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    I don't know what to say when people say crap like this .

    No warrant no argument just the pithy statement "end of story".

    Again liberals should be proud, they claimed another victim of non-thought in you .
     
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    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    Because I said my piece earlier in another post stupid. Deal with it and maybe spend a little less time feeding racism and a little more time in a thread like the Is Love Overrated thread lol.

    You are a pathetic troll and no one takes you seriously, they only fed your hatred for life and people in general ...
     
  20. Sanity_is_Relative

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    Racism is just ignorance applied to the masses. The useless cunt that posted this thread is a classic racist as is Distant Lover, based solely on the idea that both just see skin color of a person instead of the quality of the person.