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  1. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    BUSTED: Carter Page bragged about Kremlin ties in 2013

     
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    myxxxfntsy Porno Junky

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    So the Republican memo was released. Let's look at what was left out...

    As a legal matter, as law professor Orin Kerr has explained, there is no merit to the argument that a politically biased source cannot be used to obtain a warrant. Indeed, the FBI used journalism funded by Steve Bannon to investigate Hillary Clinton. In the place of any strong legal claim, the memo substitutes the assumption that intelligence sources who don’t want Trump to be president must be up to no good.

    But this treats the effect as the cause. Strzok, as the context of his texts reveals, was a moderate Republican who voted for John Kasich in the GOP primary. Steele was a Brit who had not shown any strong passion for American politics. They developed intense preferences in the 2016 election outcome in large part because they had access to intelligence about Trump and Russia. They did not create this intelligence to support their political beliefs.

    Indeed, Carter Page — the former Trump campaign official, the surveillance of whom occupies most of the memo’s attention — came under FBI scrutiny in 2014, after he had passed documents on to Russian spies. Page is the kind of person who would be brought on as a foreign policy adviser only if (a) the campaign was actively seeking out Russian assets, or (b) it was so slipshod it could easily be penetrated by Russian intelligence.

    The Backward Logic of the Nunes Memo https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBICX7y?m=en-us&ocid=News

    As well as...

    The memo actually confirms a New York Times report that what started the investigation was a slip-up by Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, who admitted to a diplomat that he knew Russia had dirt on Clinton.

    In other words, the House GOP memo undercuts conspiracy theories that the probe started because of the dossier. The memo also does nothing to dispute any of the potential collusion between Trump and the Russian government:

    It does not dispute the Papadopoulos contacts.

    It does not dispute the infamous Trump Tower meeting between Trump’s son and Russian officials to gain opposition research on Clinton.

    It does not dispute Trump’s own involvement in crafting an inaccurate statement about that meeting.

    It does not dispute that Russians hacked into the emails of the Democratic National Committee and a top Clinton campaign official.

    It does not dispute that Trump fired Comey because he was unhappy with his continued pursuit of the Russia investigation.

    Russian operatives tried to recruit Page as a spy in 2013, even before he joined the Trump team. Former FBI Director James Comey has testified that officials began looking into Trump-Russia connections in July 2016, long before the Page warrant in October 2016.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a74a311e4b01ce33eb27fde?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
     
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    Right-wing media embarrassed again after latest Page-Strzok message conspiracy theory blows up in their faces

     
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    The thing that the memo did prove is. The information used to get the FISA warrant was bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary. They even provided the information that was on the dossier. The information was false. The judge didn't want to know if the information was true and did not care who bought and paid for it.
    The whole Russian thing was something the DOJ, FBI, DNC, and Hillary thought up.
     
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    It does not matter how many times you keep posting these lies they will never be true. And have in fact been proven lies. The investigation into possible collusion between members of the Trump campaign began with George Papadopoulos in July. And the warrant to tape Carter Page's phone was not until October after Page had already left the Trump campaign. And the Steele dossier was only one of several pieces of evidence presented to the FISA court to get the warrant. The FISA court was also told the dossier was the product of political opposition research. And while nothing in the dossier has yet proven false there are many things in the dossier that have already been verified. Also there were three different FISA warrants issued because they have to be renewed very 90 days. And to get the FISA warrant renewed the FBI must also prove that there is valuable evidence gathered with the last warrant. And since there are nine FISA judges it probably was not the same judge each time the warrant was renewed. And Page was also under surveillance going back as 2014 when he was caught communicating with and delivering documents to members a Russian spy ring.

    But it wasy to see why Trump and the Repubicans are in full blown panic mode about what may have been revealed with the warrant.

    FBI likely has recordings of Bannon and Carter Page discussing the Trump-Russia dossier: report

     
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    What, exactly, has been verified in the Steele Dossier?
    Anything of substance?

    Never mind.
    Pigeons.
    Chess.
     
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  7. stumbler

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    Shootersa I am not playing this phony game with you any more. You have asked that question more than once and I have answered it more than once. And I am done with this stupid ploy of yours, The last time I answered it was on the Secret CIA assessment says Russian interfered in election thread. In fact if memory serves I answered it twice. Look it up ourself

    Because I am not wasting any more time on your phony dishonest game.
     
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      *Whew!
      Good.
      No need for either of us to waste time on the other.
       
      shootersa, Feb 9, 2018
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  8. stumbler

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    So Trump and the Republicans who were all about "transparency" when it comes to the Nunes memo isn't going to let the American people see the Democratic rebuttal.

    Isn't that living in a dictatorship?
     
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    Feinstein torches GOP’s attack on Steele: ‘Not a single revelation in the dossier has been refuted’

     
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  10. ace's n 8's

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    Just as the Dossier was never vetted either as it was used to implement the FISA warrants.

    So when it is confirmed in a few short weeks or less, that it was used as a primary reason for the FISA warrants, we will have it on record that it was never vetted...wont we?


    ...NEXT...
     
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  11. stumbler

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    Fox News’ Brit Hume smacks down claim Nunes memo ‘totally vindicates’ Trump

     
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