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  1. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    @shootersa
    The proof that you are simply looking in the mirror and actually doing ever thing you falsely accuse me of is all over this page. Including using kids as props to push your own agenda as well as the victims of crimes against the family wishes. Which makes you not just a deplorable but despicable as well.

    Mollie Tibbetts’ family fights back against anti-immigrant narrative
    In his eulogy, Tibbetts' father praised the Hispanic community, while another relative pointed to male entitlement as the real problem.

    https://thinkprogress.org/mollie-tibbetts-family-responds-to-anti-immigrant-hate-0cf6a0ab0d69/

    *And there again your argumentum ad passiones logical fallact shows what a glaring hypocrite you are because you will try and use immigrant crimes to advance your own political agenda but not really caring about all the other women killed and mass shootings.
     
  2. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Well, but you see Conroe, the unsupporters will only subscribe to the concept of "American lives first" when it suits their agenda.

    If they can bash Trump with ILLEGAL immigrant children, they will, and fuck "American lives first". Anyone not jumping to and adhering 100% to their agenda is attacked, demonized, marginalized and scorned from their lofty moral pedestal.

    No matter.

    It occupies them and gives them something to froth about when they should be concentrating on finding someone who can beat Trump. Avenatti insists he is serious about a run for president in 2020. Perhaps they should back him.
     
    1. conroe4
      I know, you've explained it ad nauseum, and they pounce on you three at a time, even saying Mexico is part of America.
      Now wasn't THAT one a stretch?
       
      conroe4, Aug 29, 2018
    2. shootersa
      Shooter laughed at that one. He had a vision of some American showing up at the Mexican border and uttering "amnesty".
       
      shootersa, Aug 29, 2018
  3. Distant Lover

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    It made sense for the United States to welcome refugees from Nazi and Communist tyranny. A lot of these refugees were people of substance like Albert Einstein and John Von Neumann, who was instrumental in developing the atomic bomb, and the first workable computer.

    Jewish refugees from the Holocaust did not engage in acts of terrorism against their host countries. Muslim refugees do.

    Chinese refugees from Communist China and Vietnamese refugees from Communist Vietnam are good people. I have known, dated, and been in love with a few.

    The current group of refugees are not fleeing the tyranny of our enemies. They are fleeing the inability of their kind of people to create viable societies.

    We are often told that immigrants have lower crime rates than American citizens. I have never seen this claim documented. I would like to see it broken down by demographics. Is it really true that Hispanic immigrants have a lower crime rate than non Hispanic whites who were born in the United States? I have serious doubts.

    How do we benefit from the immigration of Muslims? If those responsible for 9/11 had not been allowed to move here, 9/11 would not have happened. Let us not forget the Boston Marathon bombing of 2013.

    The average IQ of an African Negro is 70. Does anyone think the African Negroes who are fleeing the results of over population for which they are responsible with their prolificacy have anything of value to offer Europeans? What could it be?

    As soon as the Virtue Signalers of XNXX finish shouting "Racist!" at me I would like some answers to my questions.
     
  4. shootersa

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    Look, you pompous knucklehead, you have used the ILLEGAL immigration issue (and any other issue you can think up) to bash President Trump.
    Fine. That's your right.
    Bash away.

    But own what you do; you politicized the issue of ILLEGAL immigrant kids here at XNXX to attack a President you do not like or support. Admit that you are a fake patriot, cause, you know, dusty bones, and own the fact that you put ILLEGAL immigrant lives before American lives.

    In other words, quit being a hypocrite, quit lying about your "anguish" over foster kids, and stop trying to divert the discussion.

    Shooter has been consistent in what he says; American lives first, fix the damn immigration system by taking away the incentive to come here ILLEGALLY, make the legal immigration process more transparent and efficient, and sort out the ILLEGAL immigrant population here now; either make them citizens or deport them.

    Just because Shooter won't get in lock step with your crazed political agenda doesn't mean you are entitled to the high moral ground. In fact, trying to claim the high moral ground just makes you a bigger hypocrite.

    It is impossible to have an intelligent debate with the general because he always, but ALWAYS ends up with; BUT TRUMP AND THOSE GODDAM CONSERVATIVES
    and then he attacks, with any copy and paste he can find, anyone not in 100% agreement with his agenda.

    No matter. Shooter can kick the general occasionally to get a reaction, point out his lies and hypocrisy, and watch him froth and spew and attack. Keeps the general busy, entertains Shooter, and (hopefully) gives the rest of XNXX some entertainment.

    By the way, general, who do you like to beat Trump in 2020? Have you any thoughts about Avenatti running? Would you support him?
     
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  5. conroe4

    conroe4 Lake Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    Damn, Stormy Daniel's lawyer could be the demonrats new Trump. Holy Cow.
     
  6. shootersa

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    Wouldn't that be a hoot?
     
  7. stumbler

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    Yes I certainly think and still believe that Trump and his administration coming up with one of the cruelest possible of separating children and parents, literally child snatching, based on racism more than anything else, should be opposed and protested by everyone. Especially, when the Trump administration did it with no plans beyond separating children and parents. They didn't have proper facilities for holding them, and didn't even have a data base to track the children and parents, and still don't. They deported parents they can't even find and are in violation for court orders. And they systematically blocked legal entry where asylum seekers could claim asylum according to US LAWS.

    And the Trump administration was warned in advance by the
    Department of Health and Human Services

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...seek-answers-about-migrant-family-separations

    that separating children and parents would cause lasting harm to the children and they did it anyway. Again with no plan in place beyond just inflicting their cruel and inhuman policy as a deterrent no matter what it did to kids. And that was nothing but politics. Trump and his administration stacked with white nationalists and racists did it all for politics and nothing more.

    And all for nothing. They harmed thousands of children and parents. They still can't reunite about 500 of them and are using the ACLU to try and track down the parents they deported and have orphaned hundreds. Only to admit their crule debacle was a disaster and return to the "catch and release" policy of the Obama Administration.

    https://www.axios.com/trump-adminis...nts-a8e70381-a71c-4460-b42d-267e5a0c31ef.html

    So now let's look at you and what you did to try and politicize. Instead of dealing with what is actually happening you resort to an appeal to emotion argument to try and deflect and derail with your bogus look what happens to kids in foster care.

    Which is more than just a logical fallacy it is also beyond all reason, facts, and logic because these kids were being placed in foster, more will end up if foster care until they turn 18. And those kids didn't have to get placed in foster care to be mentally, physically, and sexually abused because it was happening in the holding facilities.

    And that makes you one of the biggest lying hypocrites on this forum you total fraud. Because this goes beyond "bashing Trump." This is real harm to kids still happening today. And all you want to do is falsely accuse others of politicizing it just so you can support Trump and make up excuses for him and try and derail and deflect from the reality.

    As I said before. That is more than deplorable. That is down right despicable.
     
  8. shootersa

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    Well, since you politicized the issue first, and shooter pointed out that AMERICAN kids were facing a much worse fate, and STILL you frothed and spewed "but Trump" shooter will let XNXX members decide for themselves who the lying hypocrite is.
     
  9. stumbler

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    Here ya go @shootersa and you don't care about kids in "foster care' straw dog bullshit.

    The Uncertain Fate of Migrant Children Sent to Foster Care
    A system designed for abused and neglected kids now must handle thousands who have been forcibly separated from their parents.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/149161/uncertain-fate-migrant-children-sent-foster-care

    *And there you are shootersa. Same as Trump
     
  10. shootersa

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    Keep diverting and spewing TRUMP and bitching and moaning about ILLEGAL immigrant problems while ignoring American foster problems.
     
  11. stumbler

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    Trump officials identify 497 migrant children still in custody

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ntifies-497-migrant-children-still-in-custody
     
  12. shootersa

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    640,000 American kids in foster care.
    80% abused.
    60% sexually abused.
    20% will never be adopted or returned to their families.
    Many will not graduate high school.
    Few will attend college.
    Much higher odds of dying a violent death.
     
    1. conroe4
      Now you're concerned with 640,000 kids, when there a 497 mexicans.
      You probably complained that Trump spent 1 trillion, and were quiet as a mouse
      when odumbass spent 10 trillion, didn't you?
       
      conroe4, Sep 1, 2018
  13. stumbler

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    And how many kids are you fostering did you say shootersa?

    And what are you doing to fix the system?
     
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    More than you are doing using kids to bash all things Trump.
     
  15. stumbler

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    Well no, that's a lie. You are helping to send kids into the foster care system you claim is so terrible by supporting all things Trump.
     
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    Shooter is NOT helping send anyone into the foster care system.
    But you already know that, liar.
     
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    El Salvador says three migrant children separated from their families were sexually abused at U.S. shelters

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-el-salvador-us-family-separations-abuse-20180831-story.html
     
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    El Salvador says three migrant children separated from their families were sexually abused at U.S. shelters

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-el-salvador-us-family-separations-abuse-20180831-story.html
     
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    .... And what is Stumbler doing to stop the alleged abuse?

    You know, besides spewing about Trump all day every day?
     
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    Calling and emailing all my members of congress. Donating to the ACLU because they are leading the fight against this cruel and abusive policy. And speaking out against Trump's illegal treatment of asylum seekers everywhere I can including here.

    While all you do is back Trump and try to deflect and distract from one of the most abusive policies since WWII.
     
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