Is that from one of DL's illustrious polls?

 

We dont discriminate, but we are a nation of laws, the majority of the immigrants here, are here illegally, and have broken our laws.

Immigrants are here to provide a better living for themselves, by themselves......not for the federal fucking government to provide a living for them through federal fucking government subsidies.

 

It's impossible to ban Muslims. It's a sales pitch to get the job. Some are born here in America. You could take the gun rights from immigrants. All immigrants not just Muslims.

 

We are not attempting to ban all Muslims, we are wanting to properly vet the fuckers. It is just that simple.

 

Vetting questionable people is fine. Friendly reminder though: Orlando guy was an American.

 

French police officer and his wife slaughtered by man shouting the rhetoric...


"Officer stabbed to death outside home in Manganville by man who shouted slogans, then held the victim’s wife and a boy aged three inside the house".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/13/french-policeman-stabbed-death-paris

The man was his neighbour.

I'm sure the pro-immigration advocates would welcome him as a neighbour, right?

 

Why are these fuckers even let out? He was locked up once. That should be the end of him.

 

MY OPINION AND SUGGESTIONS:

I’m watching Obama talking on TV about what he’s doing to stop ISIS. He did a whole bit about how it is not important to label the enemy “Radical Islam” or admit that we are at war with “Islamic Terrorist.” He claims that’s not important and it makes no difference since it will not help us defeat the enemy.

I strongly disagree. The fact is that knowing exactly who the enemy is, is vital to planning a strategy for defeating them. With that in mind I'd like to name the enemy. We are at war with Islam and here’s why.

Even if it were possible for us to instantly make every Islamic Terrorist disappear off the face of the earth, that would not end the war. Within a few years they’d be back again, just as strong and just as determined. How so? You may ask. The answer is simple. The source of all Islamic terrorist and terrorism is ISLAM itself. I’m talking about “Islam” the totalitarian, tyrannical religious Ideology that is practiced and spread by all Moslems where ever they go. Their belief in Islam is what gives Islam its power and Islam uses its power to urges Moslems to become Jihadist. Therefore, as long as there is Islam, there will always be Islamic Terrorist and Islamic jihadist ready to do battle in the name of Allah.

Now, before someone says that we are really at war with “Islamic Extremist” or “Radical Islam” and that Islam is really a religion of peace, let me make one thing perfectly clear. There is no such thing as Extreme or Radical Islam. There is just Islam and Islam is the source of all the deadly and hateful ideas that drive Moslems from all over the world to become Islamic terrorist.

That’s why there are so many bands of terrorist all over the Moslem world. You see the one thing they all Moslems share and hold in common are the motivating ideologies that are found in the Koran, the Hadith and in their barbaric Shariah Laws. Those are the source materials were you will find the words of Mohammed and Allah commanding Moslems to hate all non-Moslems and to fight for Islam and continue fighting until they’ve taken over the world and forcefully convert the whole world to Islam. (Not my opinion, you'll actually find these commands in Moslem texts and teachings.)

That is the aim of the Islamic religion. That is the goal of the Islamic religion and they will never stop because Jihad is the will of Allah and that is what they must do. Now, I will concede that not all Moslems become Jihadist but all Moslems believe in the ideology of Jihad and they all support Jihad in one way or another. If they didn’t they couldn’t call themselves Moslems. So even if they don’t engage in Jihad themselves, they do hold it as an ultimate goal and pass the ideology on to their children and their children’s children because that is what being a Moslem is all about. (Doing the will of Allah and following the example of Mohammed.)

Bottom line is that we will never be rid of Islamic Terrorism until we get rid of Islam or get Moslems to radically reform their religion so that they no longer believe that Allah wants them to conquer the world.

That’s not very likely to happen and that’s why Obama and Hillary Clinton are wrong about Islamic immigration and why Donald Trump is right. The only way we can keep America safe form Islamic terrorism is to keep Moslems out of our country. Even then, we will never be completely safe from Islamic terrorism because they can still strike from a distance with imported weapons and Jihadist. Remember 911 terrorist all came to America on visas and got training on how to fly planes from us. That's exactly why we should not invite them into our country.

What about the ones that are already here? For them we need to set very strict "America First" loyalty laws that apply equally to all Americans and which encourage cultural assimilation while allowing citizens some degree of secondary ethnic diversity. That is you can be American Italian, or German or Hispanic or even Egyptian Americans as long as your American Identity coms first. We had that for a long time and we call it the American Melting pot. So, what is not allowed? Anyone who is a member of a group that advocates the overthrow of our government by violent means will not be tolerated. What does advocate mean? (1) Public or private gatherings in which there is a call for violently overthrowing the government. (2) Possessing or distributing literature or information that promotes the violent overthrow of the government. (3) Participating in and/or encouraging others to participate in following rules, laws or customs that are contrary to our constitutional government and which deprive other citizens of their constitutional rights. Anyone violating the loyalty laws will be subject to Fines, incarceration, forfeiture of citizenship and/or deportation. The application of these sanctions will depend on the severity and the frequency of the violations.

I think every country is entitled to the loyalty of it's citizens and every citizen is entitle to enjoy the uniform protection of the law while maintaining a reasonable control over the power of the government and the evolution of the countries cultural standards via a democratic process or elections. Furthermore, I would give each state control of how it applied these rules within limits set by the Federal government so that all citizens would have the same basic uniform rights and freedoms.

I think what I've described above is pretty much what we have now with the addition of the loyalty laws which would have to be carefully graphed to our constitution.

I think the people on this forum are smart enough to know that a whole government can't be described in just a few short paragraphs, but as I've already said, we would be building on a foundation that we know can work with just a few tweaks and adjustments.

 

What turned the Orlando Night Club shooter into a killer ?

I think it was the Islamic Ideology that his father put into his head from the time he was a child.

Omar was born in the US and went to school in our country and was exposed to our American culture, our love of freedom and the opportunity our system offered him to get an education and have a good live. And he did have a good life. He had a good job, a pretty wife, a nice home, a car and a child. He could have been a happy and successful man but there was one more thing he had that twisted him up inside. He was taught to be a Moslem.

That was the real weapon that was put into his head and into his hand. He was taught the Islamic ideology. He was taught that as a Moslem he was better than anyone else which made him arrogant and disrespectful of others. He was taught to hate anyone that wasn’t a Moslem. He was taught that Allah hates homosexuals and he was taught to follow in the steps of Mohammed who was a murderer… and then he was promise that Allah would give him a place in paradise if he killed in the name of Islam and Moslem values.

I get a kick out of Obama, Hillary and their followers who say they don't understand the motives for these killings. They say the reasons for the killings were unknown and senseless. But the fact is that they know exactly why Omar did it. But they don’t want us to know. They claim it’s all about the guns or homophobia or intolerance or hate. They want to steer us away from the real reason so they can keep importing other people just like him into the US.

 

American or not, the FBI had questions.

 

From what I have read of Omar Mateen he was a troubled person most of his life. He was picked on by bullies as a teenager. He had a violent temper. He was expelled from a police academy. He was a licenced security guard, but security guards earn low wages. He may have been unemployed at the time of the crime. With no college degree and no marketable job skills his future prospects were dim.

Islam probably gave him an excuse to do what he wanted to do anyway. He fit the profile of a large number of American born psycho killers including Charles Manson and Timothy McVeigh.

 

He also appears to have been a self-hating homosexual.

 

Pew Research:
51% of US Muslims want Sharia law here,
60% of young Muslims in the US are more loyal to Islam than to America.

 

Here's a nice story about a refugee... Trouble is he's been living on government housing for nine years. Government benefits too for him, his wife and his kids. Why should the taxpayer support a refugee for nine years? Ok maybe two years is fine, even three at a push, but nine?


I was going to post the link but why bother?


The system's rigged, there are only two major parties and both are as bad as one another. Unless we have a Trump down here we will go the way of the EU.

 

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Some say ISIS, and all the terrible things they do don't represent Islam. Okay, so who represents Islam? How about Islam itself. Does Islam represent Islam? Let's look at all the Islamic countries that are ruled by Islamic law, what do they do. Let's take Saudi Arabia for example. They behead people, Kill homosexuals, stone women for adultery. Kill those that want to leave Islam, have sexual slaves, child brides.... and the list goes on and on.

Stop saying that terrorist and those people that commit horrific crimes in the name of Islam are not Islamic or don't represent Islam. The fact is that they are truly Islamic and represent Islamic Ideology as described in the Koran.

 

ISIS (ISLAMIC STATE IN IRAQ AND SYRIA)
Common sense tells us that it in fact does represent Islam.

A man identified as an American ISIS fighter praised the Orlando nightclub gunman and urged more attacks on the U.S. in a video released by the terror group on Sunday – exactly one week after Omar Mateen slaughtered 49 people inside a Florida nightclub.

 

Now Trump's talking about profiling.