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  1. shootersa

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    You got a source for that?
    CDC is unaware of it.
     
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    Shooter checked.
    Record cases is incorrect, but close enough to let thinskin off.
    Deaths?
    Nope.
    Not even close.
    Not even by claiming error or accident.
    Thinskin is either a liar or a fucking liar.
     
  3. thinskin

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    If you google covid-19 it is the first diagram you see but notice how the scale of the graph changes half way on the time scale!

    Nevertheless what we have found here in the Netherlands is the death peak is about 3 weeks after the case peak........we have been sheltering for 3 weeks now and our cases are just coming down,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yours are just going up and up........deaths will follow!

    Protect yourself and keep taking the zinc!

    Notice I fucking replied...........I do not usually spend Fridays on GD but it is concession speech time!;)

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    If you google covid update and click on statistics you learn the following;
    New cases deaths
    America 121,504 1,108
    World 429,414 5,322
    https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf...kksKV7EKpicX5Sfl1iWWVRarJCcWJxaDACDgo3bgQAAAA

    These figures are as of November 5. The record for deaths in the US is 2,466 on June 26th. The prior highest count for new cases was November 1, 74,236 cases

    And if one cares to, one can look at new cases and deaths in line charts that clearly shows, while world wide we are seeing a new surge in cases, deaths have remained stable. The increase in cases began in early September, again world wide. No surge in deaths since then.

    Cmon, dutch dickhead, be happy; the medicos are learning how to treat Covid.
     
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    I think this is the beginning of the end of the human race, man has been judged and found wanting
     
  6. shootersa

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    No, no, supreme commander is still weighing whether Earth should be conquered or left alone.

    Patience. As long as he hasn't made a decision I stay.
     
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    Whats the death count again Dutch dickhead?
    What's that? down again?

    Aren't you happy the medicos are getting better with treatment, so fewer people are dying?
    Isn't that good news?

    And no, Aspirin is not more effective than Remdesivir. Didn't say that in the article at all, did it?
    It gave us the revelation that aspirin can prevent or lessen blood clots, which could be really important in dealing with Covid. Duh. Just so you know, in America we've known about the blood thinning properties of aspirin for a really long time. In fact, a year ago, Shooters doctor had him taking aspirin daily to, you know, lessen the risk of blood clots. And after Shooters cardiac surgery, he was told to continue taking aspirin, cause, you know, blood thinner.
    The same article mentioned Remdesivir, but did not compare it with aspirin, only that a WHO study found that it wasn't very effective.

    Ya know, if you're as smart as you claim to be, you'd have never claimed that aspirin is more effective against covid-19 symptoms than remdesivir!
    Unless you're just trolling and trying to start another argument.
     
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      Show me a study that remdesivir is effective and I will show you two that it is not!

      It may be prophylactic if administered early but even that lacks the proper study.

      ts
       
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      Well, but lets stay on track, shall we?

      Show us in the article you quoted where it says aspirin is more effective than Remdesivir.
      It doesn't.
      Shooter already looked.
       
      shootersa, Nov 7, 2020
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    Isn't it well over a thousand for the third straight day and rising?

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    Why, yes.
    Shut down the economy.
    Ruin lives.
    Bankrupt the government.
    Stop Covid cases.
    Course, the fact that we're winning the war on treatment, and people are not dying in increasing numbers, well, we should ignore that.
    COVID is the thing; can't get it.
     
  13. thinskin

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    Deaths will follow case increases......the lag is about 2-3 weeks!

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      Any attempt to be rational with a tRumpie is useless, their brain cell is too corrupted to understand fact and logic.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Nov 8, 2020
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      The latest surge in cases, both in the US and the world, began in early September.

      That was 10 weeks ago.

      No surge in deaths.

      Isn't that good news?
      Aren't you happy?
      The medicos are learning how to keep covid from killing its victims!

      Oh, and SIR:
      Attaboy
       
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    From Reuters......

    U.S. reports 130,000 new coronavirus cases, fourth straight daily record

    (Reuters) - The United States on Saturday reported a record increase in coronavirus cases for a fourth consecutive day with at least 131,420 new infections, bringing the country’s total caseload to about 9.91 million, according to a Reuters tally.

    Seventeen states reported a record one-day increase on Saturday while 14 states reported record daily numbers of hospitalized patients.

    The number of deaths nationwide was more than 1,000 for a fifth consecutive day on Saturday, according to a Reuters tally.

    Ten U.S. states have so far reported record daily deaths during the first seven days of November: Arkansas, Idaho, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.

    Based on a seven-day average, the United States is reporting over 100,000 new cases daily, more than the combined average for India and France, two of the worst affected countries in Asia and Europe.

    The Midwest remains the hardest-hit U.S. region based on daily new cases per capita.

    Illinois emerged as the new epicentre in the Midwest, with the state reporting over 60,000 COVID-19 infections in the last seven days, the highest in the country, according to Reuters data. The state reported more than 12,454 new cases on Saturday, highest single-day number so far.

    Texas, which accounts for 10% of total U.S. cases, became the first state to surpass a million coronavirus cases in the United States on Saturday, having added 8,000 cases a day on average in the past seven days.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...es-fourth-straight-daily-record-idUSKBN27O03I

    Be sensible and social distance....

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      The US had 133,000+ new infections in the last 24 hour period with 1350 deaths......but, it is what it is.
       
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    So does remdesivir work.....read for yourselves.......

    Covid-19: Remdesivir has little or no impact on survival, WHO trial shows
    October 2020

    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4057

    Remdesivir for the Treatment of Covid-19 — Final Report
    October 2020

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2007764

    Remdesivir in adults with severe COVID-19: a randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled, multicentre trial
    May 2020

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

    Remdesivir and interferon fall flat in WHO’s megastudy of COVID-19 treatments
    October 2020

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...fall-flat-who-s-megastudy-covid-19-treatments

    Effect of Remdesivir vs Standard Care on Clinical Status at 11 Days in Patients With Moderate COVID-19A Randomized Clinical Trial
    August 2020

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2769871

    What the Conflicting Results on Promising COVID-19 Drug Remdesivir Really Mean
    October2020

    https://time.com/5901087/remdesivir-conflicting-studies/

    Enjoy your reading.....

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      But where, in the article you originally posted, does it say aspirin is more effective than remdisivir?

      Once we can resolve this lie of yours we can move on and deal with the rest of your spew.
       
      shootersa, Nov 8, 2020
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    Now let's move onto aspirin a tried and tested treatment for colds and flu that has been around for over 100 years and inhibits viral replication and is an anticoagulant and an anti-inflammatory and is significantly cheaper than the $2000+ a pop for remdesivir!

    Aspirin use reduces risk of death in hospitalized COVID-19 patients
    Oct0ber 2020

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201022195637.htm

    Aspirin May Treat Severe Covid-19 Disease, and That Tells Us Something Important
    November 2020

    https://elemental.medium.com/aspiri...hat-tells-us-something-important-fb486dfe3298

    Is Acetylsalicylic Acid a Safe and Potentially Useful Choice for Adult Patients with COVID-19 ?
    July 2020

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40265-020-01365-1

    So with the EU and USA having spent billions securing doses of remdesivir from Gilread, apsirin may be a cheap and effective alternative that so far does not have any negative studies on its efficacy against covid-19!

    I wonder how many decision makers were also stock holders of Gilread?

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      This was the link where you claimed aspirin is more effective than Remdesivir
      https://www.theguardian.com/science...-uk-coronavirus-treatment-recovery-blood-clot
      It doesn't say aspirin is more effective than Remdesivir anywhere, does it?
      All the rest is just you trying to cover your shit, like a cat trying to cover its shit on linoleum.

      And by the way, any medico dealing with a Covid patient who didn't at least consider prescribing aspirin would probably be liable for damages. The blood thinning properties of aspirin are well known. No big revelations there, wouldn't you agree, you know, cause you're so smart and all...........
       
      shootersa, Nov 9, 2020
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    Social distancing and other measures work as the Netherlands are showing!

    Fewer positive coronavirus tests on Saturday, hospital patient total is also down

    Fewer positive coronavirus tests were registered with public health institute RIVM in the 24 hours to Saturday 10am than on Friday, as the number of infections across the country continued to trend downwards. In total, 6,689 new cases were notified to the RIVM, a drop of almost 600 on Friday’s figure. The number of people being treated in hospital also fell, declining 61 on Friday’s total. Of them, 602 were in an intensive care ward, one down on the previous 24 hours. This means more patients are being discharged from hospital than admitted. On Friday the number of new cases rose by 288, the first rise in positive cases in a week. Last weekend, the total dipped under 10,000 after weeks of steady increases. The Netherlands introduced a new partial lockdown in mid October, involving the closure of all cafes and bars, and a further reduction in permitted group sizes. Last Wednesday extra measures also came into effect, including the closure of museums, libraries and swimming pools.

    https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/...saturday-hospital-patient-total-is-also-down/

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      Yep , social distancing dafinitely works we showed you that , and it works so well , we mostly no longer have to worry about it.

      Just got back from Auckland , where everything is normal again , like the rest of the country , stop in anywhere for a coffee or beer n a chat , go shopping , do busines , everything just like normal.

      I'm sure we'll have more scares , and quite possibly partial lockdowns over time , with it so rampant in so many places around the world ,
      and a constant trickle of border incursions with imports , but we know what to do and how to ,
      and contact tracing and gnome tracking so well organised now , only selfish ignorant idiots are likely to start a major outbreak now ,
      but sadly there are a few of those.

      (Not PC to say so , but that is basically what caused the last outbreak to get so far.
      You know ,
      church us more important than avoiding spreading it , and god said it's ok the preacher told them)
       
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    Some good news on the vaccine front!


    Covid-19 vaccine candidate is 90% effective, says Pfizer

    Interim analysis of vaccine by Pfizer/BioNTech far exceeds expectations of most experts

    A vaccine against Covid-19 is in sight, with the announcement of the first interim results in large-scale trials showing the Pfizer/BioNTech candidate is 90% effective, according to the manufacturers.

    Their analysis shows a much better performance than most experts had hoped for and brings into view a potential end to a pandemic that has killed more than a million people, battered economies and upended daily life worldwide.

    The company says there have been no serious side-effects while the high percentage of those protected makes the findings especially compelling. Regulators have said they would approve a vaccine that has a far lower 50% effectiveness rate – protecting half of those who get it.

    “Today is a great day for science and humanity. The first set of results from our phase 3 Covid-19 vaccine trial provides the initial evidence of our vaccine’s ability to prevent Covid-19,” said Dr Albert Bourla, the Pfizer chairman and chief executive.

    “We are reaching this critical milestone in our vaccine development programme at a time when the world needs it most with infection rates setting new records, hospitals nearing over-capacity and economies struggling to reopen.”

    “I’m near-ecstatic,” Bill Gruber, one of Pfizer’s top vaccine scientists, said in an interview. “This is a great day for public health and for the potential to get us all out of the circumstances we’re now in.”

    The trial will continue, meaning there is potential for the efficacy rate to change, but an interim finding that 90% of infections were prevented will excite politicians and public health leaders,

    The company says gathering the required safety data will take until the third week of November, after which it will submit a dossier to regulators for approval. Speedy licensing could mean the first doses being given to healthcare workers by the end of the year.

    People from black and minority ethnic backgrounds appear to have been as well-protected as everyone else, the company says.

    Pfizer/BioNTech’s mRNA vaccine, which uses the genetic code rather than any part of the virus itself, has been one of the race leaders for a while. Interim results are also expected this month or in early December from the trials for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine, which is based on a different technology.

    The phase 3 trials have involved more than 43,000 people and are intended to establish whether the vaccine works. Volunteers are given either the Covid vaccine, which was administered in two shots about three weeks apart, or a placebo alternative such as the meningitis vaccine, and neither they nor their doctors know which they have had.

    The interim analysis looks at how many of those who got infected with Covid-19 had had the new vaccine and how many had the placebo. So far, 94 people have become infected with Covid-19 – this is three times more than the company originally planned, but since the analysis shows that 90% had not received the vaccine, it implies that no more than eight people had received it.

    To confirm its efficacy rate, Pfizer said it will continue the trial until there are 164 Covid-19 cases among participants in vaccinated and non-vaccinated groups. Given the recent spike in US infection rates, that number could be reached by early December, Gruber said.

    The data is yet to be peer-reviewed or published in a medical journal. Pfizer said it would do so once it had results from the entire trial.

    To save time, the companies began manufacturing the vaccine before they knew whether it would work. They now expect to produce up to 50m doses, or enough vaccine to protect 25 million people, this year, and up to to 1.3bn doses in 2021.

    The US and UK both welcomed the development but urged patience.

    “I congratulate the brilliant women and men who helped produce this breakthrough and to give us so much cause for hope,” the US president-elect, Joe Biden, said. “It is also important to understand that the end of the battle against Covid-19 is still months away … a mask remains a more potent weapon against the virus than a vaccine. Today’s news does not change this urgent reality.”

    A spokesman for the British prime minister, Boris Johnson, said: “The results are promising, and while we’re optimistic of a breakthrough we must remember that there are no guarantees.”

    Many countries already have orders for the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. The UK has bought 30m doses – enough for 15 million people because two doses are required. The EU has secured 200m doses, which it will distribute. The companies have a $1.95bn contract with the US government to deliver 100m vaccine doses beginning this year.

    There is an issue for low-income countries, however, because this is a vaccine that needs ultra-cold chain; it must be stored at -80C. The BioNTech chief executive, Uğur Şahin, has said his company is researching whether the vaccine might also be able to survive for up to five days at a normal fridge temperature of 4C.

    In Germany, the government is planning to set up vaccination centres equipped with ultra-low-temperature freezers for the first phase of vaccinations.

    Founded in 2008 and based in Mainz, BioNTech employs about 500 scientists. The company, which was set up by Şahin and his wife, Dr Özlem Türeci, as well as the Austrian oncologist Christopher Huber, originally set out to develop new types of immunotherapy against cancer, but has concentrated its capacities on the race for a Covid-19 vaccine.

    Even before the first shutdown in the spring, the company had developed 20 candidates for a vaccine and then tested five, of which two showed particularly strong immune reactions.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/09/covid-19-vaccine-candidate-effective-pfizer-biontech

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