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  1. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Donald Trumps win in 2016 was a very welcome event, why? Because it stopped the freight train that was threatening to overrun the country with anti-capitalism. Severe restrictions on free enterprise were hampering the US’s industries in competing with international competition on a level playing field.

    During his initial two years, he did more to regain lost business that any one before him. What made the US the economic success that it was, was the ability for business to employ innovation and to capitalize on it. No government run industry has ever grown economic strength, as well as private industry.

    Now, why am I glad he lost? Two basic reasons.

    First, his bombastic, belligerent, personality was undermining his successes, particularly when he insisted on tweeting ridiculous claims of his brilliance. He became an easy target for more “intelligent” foils. Someone once said: “never start and argument with someone who buys printing ink by the barrel”, it’s also true of those who control the mass media of today. Couple that with the power and speed of social media and no one could ever win an argument. So in my opinion, he will never recover from his own belligerence.

    Second, the left now has a tricky path to follow, after the economic and domestic conditions that were realized under Trump, they will be more cautious in making drastic changes. If they aren’t, another “Trump” could kill them in 2024. Of course initially there will be changes, they have to satisfy the faithful. But, I believe that cooler heads will prevail, particularly in Congress and in American industry.

    It’s gonna be interesting, hope I’m still around to see how it works out.
     
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      You hope that you’re still around @tenguy....you ain’t going anywhere. You are expected to fathom the leftist agenda with the rest of us.
       
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      He better stick around, seems like a sensible guy,... Ya I'm talkin' 'bout you 10guy!
       
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    4. conroe4
      Nah, he's a goober like the rest of us. probably a more sensible goober, but still a goober. and he's old.
       
      conroe4, Dec 20, 2020
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      Tenguy I would get over his tweets and thank God that he was president I’m sure you do . And maybe it’s not over yet . I happen to be very glad that he’s an open type person who airs all of his laundry .He has exposed do United States government for what it really is best thing that could’ve ever happened problem is not enough people opener have open eyes enough to see
       
      Truthful 1, Dec 20, 2020
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      We might be distantly related


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    deleted user 555 768 Porn Star Banned!

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    I fear the influence of democrats in hast to undo Trump, lacking cooler heads just wont be a good thing for long term America interests.
     
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    stumbler Porn Star

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    Hey tenguy what was the budget deficit before the pandemic even hit? Let's see you answer that one oh great "conservative."

    And OMG you are posting the most laughable lies I've seen in the past four years.

    Also what happened you wanting politics out of the GD because they fucking upset your treasonous ass? So you get politics moved and then you're going to spend all your times posting laughable lies in politics? My God what a raving phony hypocrite you are.
     
    1. tenguy
      Why not focus on my post. Tell me where I misspoke, try to stay on topic for a change.
       
      tenguy, Dec 19, 2020
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      Because you are a God damned treasonous lying Q usiling trying to baffle with Bullshit. Proven by the fact you won't even answer a simple question new Forum King.
       
      stumbler, Dec 19, 2020
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    stumbler Porn Star

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    Hey @tenguy why don't you answer this very simple question if Trump did such a great job?


    Don't you remember tenguy the budget deficit was a very big deal to you when Obama was president.









    Is that what Trump did tenguy? Did he surround himself with with guru's who do understand economics, national security, education, health care, etc. etc., ?

    If Trump is such a great president how is our National Security right now tenguy?

    ‘Worst hacking in US history’: Agencies said to fear nuclear networks accessed
    ‘They got into everything,’ one official says, as federal authorities express growing alarm over breadth and depth of intrusion into government networks, likely by Russian actors
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/worst...ncies-said-to-fear-nuclear-networks-accessed/

    You phony "conservatives" are not just liars preaching the lie of conservatism anymore. You are God damned straight up traitors to the United States of America trying to overthrow a free and fair election while you also surrender the United States of America to Putin.
     
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      No I am about to address the OP and you stil won't answer that very simple question.
       
      stumbler, Dec 19, 2020
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    silkythighs Porn Star

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    Trump's biggest error was that he forgot that the president represents all Americans. One cannot Gov successfully by only appealing to your base. Campaign to your base, but once elected you move back to the center. The center is where the real power is. Go too far left or too far right, and the electorate WILL punish you. There is two sides to coin, but its still one coin.
     
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      I agree. But am still happy the freight train was derailed.
       
      tenguy, Dec 19, 2020
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      You are simply a liar @tenguy. Trump deralied the whole fucking country killed what will amount to about a half million Americans and surrendered us to Putin/Russia without firing a shot and you want to cheer that? Non-fuck you traitor.
       
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    You've never heard of the internet?
     
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  7. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Wait.
    You think the government built the internet?
    You mean you think Al Gore invented the internet?
    Not really.
    You're just joking around, right?

    Oh, wait.
    You think the "government" runs the internet now, right?
    Uh, which government would that be again?
    You know, that runs the internet.
     
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    deleted user 555 768 Porn Star Banned!

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    The Russians designed the internet and gave it to Al Gore and waited until the time was right for an internet invasion
     
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      No the Russians just attacked us and may have very well conquered us without firing a single shot or at the very least has crippled both our government and industries because God damned non-fucking Q uisling traitors like you backed the Russian asset and Putin cock sucking traitor Trump.

      Be very proud of yourself for stabbing the United States of America in the back like that you God damned traitor.
       
      stumbler, Dec 19, 2020
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      You tried skipping over me by blasting 10guy, couldn't make 24 hours, I knew it, I just knew it!
       
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  9. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Now lets go ahead and prove that actually all tenguy is trying to do here is run a lying false right wing propaganda attempt to re-write and white wash the Trump years so he and his fellow conservatives can start crawling out of the woodwork again bashing Democrats now that Trump is out of office.



    Now all that is nothing more than stupid already proven lies. But don't be confused tenguy is not stupid. He is simply trying to tell you lies he hopes YOU are stupid enough to believe.

    We can reshore manufacturing jobs, but Trump hasn’t done it
    https://www.epi.org/publication/reshoring-manufacturing-jobs/

    Why Trump is bad for business
    America’s first billionaire President promised to bring a C-suite sensibility to the Oval Office. It started well—but now bad policy choices have pushed CEO confidence to the lowest level in a decade.
    https://fortune.com/longform/trump-...ade-immigration-taxes-regulations-us-economy/

    Trump’s Hollow Economy
    https://tcf.org/content/commentary/trumps-hollow-economy/?session=1

    Fact check: Trump makes false claims about his record on manufacturing and coal jobs
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/politics/fact-check-trump-jobs-manufacturing-coal/index.html

    Remember Trump promising to save coal and throwing billions of dollars at it while taking resgtrictions off coal poisoning people, water and wildlife?

    More coal has retired under Trump than in Obama's 2nd term
    https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063430425

    How about Trump's trade war? We lost of course but do you remember this? President Trump your trade pplocies are hurting farmers and they voted for you what should we do? Throw money at them. Buy them off.

    Trump to offer farmers $12B in trade aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/24/trump-trade-aid-for-farmers-737108

    Hey president Trump your trade war is worse than we thought for farmers what should we do. Throw more money at them and buy them off some more.

    Trump Funnels Record Subsidies to Farmers Ahead of Election Day
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/politics/trump-farmers-subsidies.html




    And now look at this.


    Why won't tenguy answer that simple question.

    Because he knows Trump and the "conservatives" gave corporations and the 1% a fucking trillion dollars in tax cuts. And just rolled those presses. Printed that money. Put it on the credit card and started running FUCKING TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET DEFICITS in a time of prosperity. And for what?

    Not a fucking thing.

    Data show Trump didn't 'build' a great economy. He inherited it.
    The average quarterly economic growth under Trump, 2.5 percent, was almost exactly what it was under Obama in the second term, 2.4 percent.
     
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    deleted user 555 768 Porn Star Banned!

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    Why do you only say G D to me and no one else?
     
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    deleted user 555 768 Porn Star Banned!

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    Here, you can distract and avoid with this,...we'll probably revisit the previous query again, I'm sure


    No, the Russians havent conquered us, have faith in America's survival, although I am concerned about Democracy being voted out in favor of socialism.

    And I am concerned about Russian hacking,...l as well as Chinese "Honeypoting", most of the democrat congress and particularly Eric Swallwell, who has been screwing a Chinese spie for years and Nancy P and MSM is burying the story...as usual
     
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  13. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    The question before the electorate is not:

    Shall we choose capitalism or socialism?

    but rather:

    How much control should the government have over the business community?

    Democrats want more control. Under Democrat presidents there has usually been more growth in the job market

    https://www.infoplease.com/business/labor/united-states-unemployment-rate

    https://www.bushtoll.com/2012/03/05/the-george-w-bush-job-creation-failure/

    and more growth in per capita gross domestic product (GDP) in 1996 dollars.

    http://www.singularity.com/charts/page99.html

    Even the stock market has usually performed better.

    According to a Nov 6, 2012 article in The Wall Street Journal, "Since 1900, the Dow has averaged a 7.8% annual gain under Democratic presidents, compared with a 3% annual gain under Republicans, WSJ reported earlier this year."

    http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2012/11/06/what-an-obama-win-may-mean-for-stocks/
     
    1. tenguy
      Increased control over enterprise is anti capitalism, free enterprise has no controls imposed by government.
       
      tenguy, Dec 20, 2020
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      Then why has the U.S. economy usually performed better under Democratic leadership?

      If there were no controls imposed by the government on the business community, there would be no environmental restrictions on manufacturing. The air and water near factories would be far more polluted than they are. There would be no laws to regulate safe working conditions and safe consumer items, as well as food items and medicine. Beginning with the Progressive Era, which began with the presidency of Teddy Roosevelt in 1902, the American people have rejected more and more laizzez fair capitalism, for a larger, more powerful, and more expensive government.
       
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    And the same old tired lie that the economy does better because of despicables.
     
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    1. Rixer
      I was surprised at that also but it seems it's true.
       
      Rixer, Dec 20, 2020
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      No...it's not true.

      .Com created wealth under the Clinton regime, which had nothing to do with the leftists government creating more wealth or better economy.

      Government is always a problem when they infiltrate the free market, the free market and competition can and has always created a better economy and individual wealth.
       
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  15. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    If you took the time to click on the websites posted by the Master of Facts, you would know that his factual assertions are not lies. :p

    Under Democrat presidents there has usually been more economic growth, more job creation and more growth in the stock market, just as I pointed out. Also, recessions usually begin under Republicans and end under Democrats. There is too much of a pattern to be dismissed as coincidence.
     
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      I had to like this DL, you certainly are tenacious. You will hang onto an old chewed up bone longer than anyone I know.
       
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    Figures never lie, but liars figure. Distant lover has had his assertion challenged and proven less than accurate before.

    No matter.
     
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    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I had to like this DL, you certainly are tenacious. You will hang onto an old chewed up bone longer than anyone I know.

    - tenguy

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    I document my factual assertions with data drawn from credible sources. You both repeat right wing cliches and talking points you heard somewhere and believe because you enjoy believing them. The record is clear: the U.S. economy has performed better by important criteria when businessmen are tightly regulated and heavily taxed by the government. You have nothing to support your prejudices with but crude sarcasm.
     
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      Predictably is another trait of yours.
       
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      The Master of Facts is predictably correct. His detractors are predictably insulting, because they cannot prove that the Master is not correct. :p

      It is not possible to disagree with the Master of Facts because everything he says is true. :smuggrin:

      Unfortunately, many people do not want to be told the truth. Insults and name calling, which are the lowest form of discourse, are all the Master's detractors have. :(
       
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  18. jelly4wire

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    Getting back to the OP's topic, I agree with his original premise.
    It's great that Trump was elected.
    And it's probably best that he didn't get a 2nd term, as he is cracking-up in the face of relentless deep-state sabotage of his administration.
    The level of sucking muck in the swamp has not gone down at all.
     
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  19. Truthful 1

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    I also think it is funny as hell that he Fraudulently lost . Because all the folks who despise Donald Trump that are not government employees. Will feel the pain of the loss of the power of the people. .....................But like I said before I feel sore for my children and yours who will not know how nice and somewhat free this Country used to be
     
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  20. stumbler

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    Tenguy might be happy Trump got elected but I am not. Trump's deadly incompetence handling COVID 19 has killed more jobs and businesses than all the regulations in the world. Not to mention people.

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    Trump lied and Americans die you bunch of phony hypocritical treasonous Q uislings.
     
    1. heads-up
      Trump isn’t responsible for any of the over-inflated Covid deaths. You sir needn’t call anyone a hypocrite or phony, you lead the pack in both categories. As far as treason goes, look to your party, cheating scum fuckers all of them.
       
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