Live feed from the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...bi-biden-abortion-student-loan-latest-updates

Thinskin

 

Thank you @thinskin . As usual the Guardian is way ahead of any source I've been able to find yet.

 

Thank you @thinskin . As usual the Guardian is way ahead of any source I've been able to find yet.

 

I think I can kind of picture this. After Trump's armed insurrection and attempted coup failed on January 6, 2021 Trump's sycophants started telling him Hey boss we have to move out of here and you need to turn all those documents and other things over to the National Archives. But Trump refuses and decides to steal them. Then once down in Mar a Lago his sycophants start telling him hey boss the National Archives is breathing down our necks and you have to give all those boxes of documents you stole back to them. And Trump begrudgingly does give some of them back but keeps hiding the rest. But then the National Archives starts going through them and finds more than 700 pagers of classified documents and calls in the FBI. And so Trump's sycophants start to panic telling hey boss now this is some really serious shit and you have to stop fucking around and give everything to them. And Trump hands over a little more and then lies and says that's all he has. And when his sycophants find out about that they get to talking among themselves saying Jesus fuck we are being accessories to stealing and hiding some of the most top secret material the government has and they are not going to fucking put up with that and indictments are going to start flying like a blizzard because that crazy old fuck can't get through his head he is not a fucking king that can do anything he wants. And so at that point they get on the phone to the FBI telling them they don't want to end up in prison for this. So here is what Trump is still hiding and this is where to look for it.


Affidavit suggests 'significant number of civilian witnesses' flipped on Trump: legal analyst

Travis Gettys
August 26, 2022



Donald Trump (Photo via Jim Watson/AFP)


The newly unsealed Department of Justice affidavit shows investigators relied on evidence from multiple sources to justify their search of Mar-A-Lago.

MSNBC's Joyce Vance said the heavily redacted document, which the FBI used to obtain their search warrant for Donald Trump's private resort, revealed their concerns that witnesses could face threats as part of an effort to obstruct their investigation of classified documents improperly removed from the White House.

"One very interesting tidbit we get from the legal memo that DOJ submitted to unseal the redacted version of the affidavit is what I think is the first effort to quantify the number of cooperating witnesses that DOJ had when they obtained this search warrant," said Vance, a former U.S. Attorney. "They're talking about the need to protect their witnesses from any sort of potential harm, and they say that there are a significant number of civilian witnesses. So we don't know -- is that five? Is that 10?"

"But I think it's important to realize here that DOJ was not just relying on one or two witnesses," she continued. "Likely this is, as they say, a significant number of civilian witnesses as well as people in law enforcement who need to be protected as this investigation moves forward, and that puts into context what we're looking at here."

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"We're talking about a former president of the United States who's clearly taken with him when he left office materials, whether they're classified or not, that could do grave damage to our national security if they're disclosed in an inappropriate fashion, and not only is that former president resistant to returning those documents, also DOJ has legitimate reasons to believe that there are risk to witnesses who are helping complete this investigation," Vance added. "That should be a sobering moment for us to realize we're in this situation with former President Trump."

Government lawyers had opposed the release of the affidavit but the judge ordered it unsealed with redactions the Justice Department said were necessary to protect an ongoing investigation involving national security.

FBI agents raided Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida on August 8, seizing boxes containing a large amount of highly classified documents that Trump had not returned to the government despite multiple requests and a subpoena to do so.

The unredacted version of the affidavit likely explains in detail what the department is investigating in relation to Trump and could possibly reveal sources.

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But Judge Bruce Reinhart accepted Justice Department arguments that there was a "compelling" need to mask significant portions of the document.

Reinhart had ordered the release of the redacted affidavit by noon (1600 GMT) on Friday -- and the fevered anticipation surrounding its publication caused the federal court website to crash.


https://www.rawstory.com/mar-a-lago-affidavit-2657950287/

 

38 pages and other than several pages of boilerplate legal citations we learn that
MOVING TRUCKS WERE SPOTTED AT MAR A LAGO!!!!
and that trump returned 15 or so boxes of documents to NARA that included TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS, or at least documents marked TOP SECRET.
Huh.
Why would trump do that?
Suspiciously missing is any indication that any of the documents marked TOP SECRET have been confirmed as still being top secret but perhaps that is in the redacted part.

Guess welljust have to wait for the indictments and the perp walk to find out about that.

 

In contradiction to the dotard this tells a different story of a theft that could have been used as leverage or just financial gain.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/26/doj-redacted-trump-affidavit-mar-a-lago-search

Thinskin

 

@shootersa let's grant everything you have claimed. Trump can wave his hands and turn presidential records into personal and classified documents into declassified. So he can take TS/SCI, Special Access Program. human intelligence sources, and signal intelligence. And store them in a room at Mar a Lago.

Ok granted. So I was just wondering in your own personal opinion should Trump have done that with our national secrets? If you were president is that what you would do?

 

You cannot possibly expect a coherent answer?

Thinskin

 

Attaboy

 

Oh dear.......now just about anyone with a false background can walk in to Mar a Lago.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...a-lago-trump-anna-de-rothschild-b2153755.html

Thinskin

 

Really secure.......for foreign agents!



Thinskin

 

LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!

 

Trump will delay delay and delay any court case and hope he can win the next presidential election. If he does this will happen

1.He will pardon himself and any people that remained loyal.

2.Any federal or state employees that was involved in any court case again him would be sacked and there pension rights removed.

3.Any person who gave information about his crimes would be placed on a terrorist watch list as a traitor which would make them unemployed.

It would be back to Mccarthy type witch-hunts again

 

It's funny that you mention "back to McCarthy witch hunts" There's been an ongoing one for the past seven years brought to us by DemoCrypts...

 

Of course not. @shootersa cannot and will not answer simple and direct questions because he cannot think for himself and can only push the treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican false propaganda talking points of the day. He can never say anything that goes against his Chosen One Traitor Trump.

 

Biden scoffs at Trump claim he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents: ‘Come on’
by Brett Samuels - 08/26/22 3:18 PM ET

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President Biden on Friday dismissed the claim from former President Trump that he broadly declassified the boxes of White House documents he took to Florida after leaving office.

Biden was dismissive about Trump’s claim that he had declassified the documents that were being kept at his Mar-a-Lago estate hours after the Justice Department released an affidavit that offered some new information about the materials recovered there.


“’I’ve declassified everything in the world. I’m president,’” Biden said sarcastically, waving his hands in the air. “Come on.”

Biden, speaking with reporters outside the White House, otherwise declined to comment on the details of the investigation into Trump.


“Let the Justice Department take care of that,” he said.

Trump’s handling of classified materials has been under intense scrutiny since the FBI searched his home earlier this month. Officials have said the search was related to sensitive government materials being kept at Trump’s estate.

The Department of Justice earlier Friday released a heavily redacted affidavit that was used to justify the search.

While the document contains little information about the search itself, it does reveal that an initial collection of boxes from Mar-a-Lago in January yielded 15 boxes containing 184 documents that were classified, secret or top secret.




Trump has defended his handling of sensitive materials in the weeks since the search in part by claiming the materials he took with him were all declassified.

But several former Trump administration officials have publicly said they were not familiar with such an order to declassify, and legal experts have said Trump could not have declassified the materials simply by saying he wanted to do so.


A White House spokesperson was asked about the affidavit after its release but declined to comment on the ongoing investigation.


Biden has also largely refrained from weighing in on the FBI search of his predecessor’s home.


Asked Wednesday about the FBI’s actions, Biden said he had no advanced notice of the search before it happened earlier this month.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...he-declassified-mar-a-lago-documents-come-on/

 

Nope.
No politics here to see.

 

A specific Espionage Act provision could seal Trump's fate: Former NSA counsel

Tom Boggioni
August 27, 2022



Donald Trump (Photo by Gage Skidmore on Flickr)


Appearing on CNN on Saturday morning with host Frederika Whitfield, the former general counsel of the Nationals Security Agency (NSA) highlighted one specific provision in the Espionage Act that could be easily proven and lead to federal charges against Donald Trump.

Reacting to the redacted affidavit that was released on Friday that has led multiple legal experts to claim what little they saw would indicate that the Department of Justice has a solid case against the former president, Glenn Gerstell offered a possible avenue for the DOJ to pursue against Trump.

With legal analyst Micheal Zeldin deferring to Gerstell on potential criminal charges, Whitfield asked, "So Glenn, you want to take a stab at potential numbers?"

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"Hard to say," he replied, "but the surveillance tapes will shed light on that."

"But, you know," he continued, "One of the points that hasn't been mentioned too much in the news reports about all this, is there's a section of the Espionage Act, which is referenced in the search warrant itself, that refers simply to grossly, negligently allowing someone who doesn't have proper authorization to look at documents."

"So if this was the case -- and I emphasize if, we don't know the facts -- but if it turned out that President Trump specifically allowed an assistant, a secretary, an aide, a worker to have access to these documents knowing that these documents contained national defense information and knowing they weren't authorized, just on its face, that certainly looks like a violation of that provision. So this raises very, very serious legal issues."

Watch below or at this link.



https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-espionage/

 

If there is politics here, it is Trump's doing. He took the documents and that's all we need to know.

 

You keep saying the same thing over and over and its based on anonymous sources.
Not a problem for trump to take documents with him.
Try to focus.