But how do you know what they talked about? Even Christopher Said didn't know what was said.

 

And that's the point, isn't it?
They said they talked about golf and grandkids.
A few days before Bill's wife would find out if she was going to get indicted by Lynch's DOJ.
Golf and Grandkids. That's all. Innocent as two friends running across each other on the street, eh?
We'll likely never know for sure what those two talked about that was so important they do it at such a critical moment and made sure there were no witnesses, but it smears the office, doesn't it? The question arises, if their talk was so innocent, why did they both make damn sure no one else could hear the conversation?

One thing for sure, deplorables haven't slathered the news with stories of speculation, or "anonymous sources" or Federal investigations about Bill and Loretta's little tea party, have they?
But we have despicables using the air waves to endlessly speculate and offer bombshell new developments from "anonymous sources" and federal investigations every time Trump takes a dump.

And as has been said before, when the truth isn't on your side, lie.
Which is what despicables have been doing for the last 7 years where trump is concerned.

 

But that's the rub, isn't it! You love to denounce anonymous sources, but in this case, there isn't even an anonymous sources. Christopher Said didn't over hear anything, all be got was seeing them talk, everything else is all conjecture.

But it's right wing conjecture, so it's ok, right?

Oh, ye of the double standards!

 

Well, that's the point isn't it genius?
Conjecture is fine, we can agree on that much can't we?
It's OK to suggest alternatives or realistic scenarios based on circumstances.
Right?

Now then.
No one posted stories about "anonymous sources" who reported that the conversation involved clearing Hillary in return for a cushy government job after Hilary won the election.
Right?
See, that's what despicables do.
They have a wet dream, or a fantasy, and write a story inferring whatever it is, and to bolster it they'll say a "source familiar with the situation" reports some aspect of their fantasy that can't be checked or challenged.
That is not conjecture is it?
Its lies, and spin, and propaganda.

One example.
The Steele dossier.
There were endless stories about Cohen traveling to Russia to finalize hotel deals after Trump said there were no deals.
"Anonymous sources" said otherwise, and even argued when Cohen's passport proved he hadn't left the country at that time that "sources familiar with the situation" suggested that Cohen used some nefarious way to travel out of the country without his passport.
Or the Pee tapes.
Where the fuck are the pee tapes?
And the "nuclear secrets" Trump absconded with.
Read those stories again.
And the foreign spies visiting Mar a Lago. Oh. Sorry. Bit of overstatement there. Foreign spies who COULD HAVE visited Mar a Lago.

You want to talk double standards do you?
You aren't qualified, but bring it if you must.

 

Americans are starting to get it!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/30/trump-republicans-voters-midterms-democrats

Thinskin

 

Have you still not seen the pee tapes?

Thinskin

 

No, Shooter has not seen the pee tapes. No one has. They do not exist.
But say, bring em. Lets see em.
And for that matter, anything else that PROVES the alegations in the Steele dossier.
You know, the one that was used to justify spying on the President's election campaign and later on the White House.
The one Hillary paid for and then tried to hide her involvement.

 

And I never claimed to know what documents are there. Not my problem that you distrust what the FBI and the DOJ are putting out.​

So, you brought up something that you don't really know what happened, but why? Everything about this incident is pure speculation, except for the fact that they were seen together.​

Yes. Seen together a few days before his wife was either going to be indicted or cleared, and Lynch would have normally been the one to decide and make the announcement. Those two at minimum put themselves in a compromising position and neither one is really stupid enough to do that. Whatever they discussed had to be kept secret (otherwise their staffs would not have been forced to wait outside) and was more valuable than the compromise they put themselves in. That is the point. Are you smart enough to get that, or do you want to go for more insults?

You may claim to agree not to know what they talked about, but it won't stop you from using the situation to muddy the waters. You don't give a fuck!​

Oh, Shooter most certainly gives a fuck. When the leaders of the country repeatedly behave and do all they can to usurp the office of the President and the process we use to elect a president because it isn't their man(woman) who holds the office Shooter will most certainly "give a fuck."

 

Never mind, this is pointless.

 

Lolol!

Shooter has not seen the pee tapes!

Thinskin

 

So then, Shooter doesn't get to see the pee tapes?

 

Can't see what doesn't exist...

 

I tend to look at Andrew McCarthy as a Conservative with extensive legal experience who calls legitimate balls and strikes when he speaks about the fallout of the Mar-a-Lago raid. Much which follows is McCarthy reading between the lines, so should be read with caution. Some may also come from "insiders."

It continues to be interesting, watching the high level sparring between Trump and the DOJ/FBI over this. Whether Trump is indicted or not, there is no doubt that the leadership of these organizations (FBI/DOJ) have been specifically targeting him... We can only speculate why.

Why Yesterday’s DOJ Filing Suggests a Trump Indictment Is Coming
Former president Trump is likely to be charged with obstruction of justice and causing false statements to be made to investigators.
By Andrew C. McCarthy
August 31, 2022 3:07 PM

Former president Donald Trump is facing the very serious prospect of being indicted for obstruction of justice and causing false statements to be made to the government. That is the upshot of a court submission filed by the Justice Department on Tuesday night, in response to the Trump camp’s belated motion for the appointment of a special master to review materials seized three weeks ago from the former president’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

Last week, when an extensively redacted version of the affidavit supporting the Mar-a-Lago search warrant was released, I opined that “perhaps the most overlooked sentence” in the document was this one: “There is also probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found at the PREMISES.” The government’s Tuesday night court filing bears that out.

The submission also illustrates that, while the affidavit remains substantially under wraps, we already know the gist of it (as I explained last week). Prosecutors begin with a factual recitation (pp. 2-13) that substantially echoes a letter written by Archivist Debra Seidel Wall to Trump’s counsel — covering events from the time Trump left office on January 20, 2021, through May 10, the date of Wall’s letter.

Moreover, we already knew that after Wall’s letter there followed (a) an initial grand-jury subpoena for classified documents, served on May 11; (b) a meeting at Mar-a-Lago on June 3, which, contrary to Trump’s public depiction of an amicable negotiation session between his lawyers and DOJ officials (into which Trump himself popped in), was actually compliance — or as it turned out, non-compliance — with a grand-jury subpoena in an active criminal investigation; and (c) a second grand-jury subpoena, served on June 22, for Mar-a-Lago surveillance video. These events dovetailed with the FBI’s interviews of Mar-a-Lago employees and Trump’s post-presidency staffers, as well as the bureau’s review of the surveillance video. In combination, these convinced the government of what it already suspected at the time of the June 3 meeting: Trump was lying about how much classified information he was hoarding, and about where he was hoarding it.

Consequently, even without the new submission, we already knew that the Justice Department believed the unprecedented execution of a court-authorized search warrant at the home of a former American president was fully justified because: (a) the government had exhausted other options, after not just 18 months of trying to reason with Trump but, especially, his flouting of a grand-jury subpoena (i.e., even though he knew things had been elevated to a criminal investigation, he nevertheless engaged in conduct punishable by imprisonment); (b) there was a high likelihood that Trump was continuing to direct the movement, concealment, and perhaps destruction of classified documents which, as the Trump camp’s June 3 machinations showed, the former president had no intention of surrendering to the government; and (c) there was a vital need for U.S. intelligence agencies to re-acquire any highly classified intelligence that had been mishandled (and was still being mishandled), in order to assess the damage that mishandling had done to national security.

Although we already knew all these things, the new Justice Department submission fills in some salient gaps.

1. No Claim of Declassification
In January 2022, when Trump initially surrendered 15 boxes of presidential records — only after months of pleading by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), which finally prompted NARA to warn that it would have to involve Congress if Trump persisted in ignoring the Presidential Records Act — a prodigious amount of classified information was included. At the time that this material — 184 distinct documents, containing over 700 pages classified at the highest levels — was handed over to NARA, Trump made no claim that it had been declassified. Furthermore, in subsequent correspondence, even after NARA pointed out that much of the material appeared to be classified, Trump’s counsel never made any claim that Trump had declassified any of it, much less all of it.

2. An Implied Admission that Nothing Was Ever Declassified
The June 3 Mar-a-Lago meeting occurred pursuant to a grand-jury subpoena, which demanded the surrender of “any and all documents or writings in the custody or control of Donald J. Trump and/or the Office of Donald J. Trump bearing classification markings.” The subpoena instructed that, in lieu of a personal appearance by Trump’s records custodian before the grand jury in Washington, D.C., the documents could be surrendered to the FBI “at the place of their location” (presumably, Mar-a-Lago), provided that the custodian executed a “sworn certification that the documents represent all responsive records” that would be transmitted to the grand jury (i.e., the equivalent of the sworn testimony that would have been sought if Trump’s custodian had personally appeared before the grand jury).

To repeat, contrary to Trump’s public claims, this was not an amicable visit in which a totally cooperative, completely transparent former president hosted some government officials. It was a meeting under duress: a legally mandated response to a subpoena (i.e, a court order, enforceable by criminal law), directly occasioned by the former president’s obdurate lack of cooperation. Indeed, in its submission, the Justice Department drops a footnote (p. 9, n. 4) that pointedly refutes the claim that Trump is the one who “determined a search for the [classified] materials should be conducted.” Instead, the search was conducted because a subpoena demanded that it be conducted.

Beyond that, the Justice Department’s filing offers a significant point about classification: The subpoena required the production of any classified records in Trump’s possession, and Trump (through his representatives) produced documents on the recognition that they were classified documents responsive to the subpoena. Neither Trump nor his representatives ever claimed that he’d declassified any of the documents. They never claimed that he did not need to comply with the subpoena because any documents in his possession were no longer classified. His compliance with the subpoena — though only partial and deceptive — was tantamount to an admission that he’d been retaining classified documents in an unauthorized location, in violation of federal criminal law.

3. The Government Clearly Has Witnesses
Even before its mid May review of the first 15 boxes Trump gave NARA, the FBI already had one or more witnesses who’d informed the bureau that Trump was still hoarding classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.

After being delayed by Trump’s futile attempts to stall and assert privilege, the FBI’s review, which took three days, commenced on May 16. Yet, notice that the grand-jury subpoena demanding all classified documents stored at Mar-a-Lago was issued on May 11 — five days earlier.

The Justice Department’s submission explains that by the time the May 11 subpoena was issued, the FBI had “developed evidence” indicating that “dozens of additional boxes” of records were still being held at the Florida estate. The filing does not say what this evidence was, or how it was developed. The prosecutors omit this information because, they say, they’re worried about intimidation of witnesses and other obstructive conduct. They also emphasize that Magistrate Judge Reinhart found probable cause to believe that criminal obstruction had occurred when he approved the search warrant on August 5; and, in thereafter explaining why he would not order disclosure of the unredacted affidavit, Reinhart concluded that revealing this type of information could “impede the ongoing investigation through obstruction of justice and witness intimidation or retaliation.”

4. False Statements, Including Under Oath, to the FBI and the Grand Jury
At the June 3 Mar-a-Lago meeting, Trump’s representatives provided the sworn statement demanded by the subpoena. It reads:

Based upon the information that has been provided to me, I am authorized to certify, on behalf of the Office of Donald J. Trump, the following: a. A diligent search was conducted of the boxes that were moved from the White House to Florida; b. This search was conducted after receipt of the subpoena, in order to locate any and all documents that are responsive to the subpoena; c. Any and all responsive documents accompany this certification; and d. No copy, written notation, or reproduction of any kind was retained as to any responsive document. I swear or affirm that the above statements are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

The government’s court filing does not say who signed the sworn statement. Media reports indicate that the signatory was Trump lawyer Christina Bobb (though she has publicly said that Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran oversaw the supposedly “diligent search”). That the statement itself is patently false does not necessarily mean Bobb was lying when she signed it (if, indeed, she was the one who signed it) — we don’t yet know what information she was given and thus cannot assess whether she was willfully misleading investigators. We can safely assume, however, that (a) the lawyers who conducted the “diligent search” and provided the sworn statement for the grand jury (among other statements the lawyers made that day to the FBI) are subjects of the investigation — and likely to become central witnesses; and (b) the government would argue that Trump made false statements to the FBI and to the grand jury, reasoning that his agents’ statements are attributable to him, and he had to know, when he caused his agents to make these statements, that he was not providing all of the classified documents compelled by the subpoena.

We can also safely say that the government had reason to believe, even as the June 3 meeting was taking place, that the representations made on Trump’s behalf by his lawyers were false. Which brings us to the next point.

5. The Government Did Not Agree to Trump’s Retention of Records, Which He Barred Government Officials from Inspecting
Contrary to Trump’s claims, the Justice Department objected to Trump’s continued retention of presidential records (which are by law the property of the government, not the former president) in the Mar-a-Lago storage room. At the June 3 meeting, a request to view the storage area was made by the government officials (three FBI agents and Jay I. Bratt, the chief of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section of the DOJ’s National Security Division — and the principal author of the government’s submission last night). They were permitted to do so. Here, the DOJ’s court filing relates that:

Critically, however, the former President’s counsel explicitly prohibited government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room, giving no opportunity for the government to confirm that no documents with classification markings remained.

Obviously, the government did not take at face value the sworn statement signed by Trump’s representatives. The DOJ officials wanted to “confirm” that the statement was accurate, and they were made suspicious by the Trump team’s refusal to allow that. It is also clear that the officials asked other questions on June 3 to probe the representations made in the sworn statement. The court filing states that Trump representatives told the officials that the boxes of records in the storage room were “the remaining repository” of White House records. The filing elaborates: “Counsel further represented that there were no other records stored in any private office space or other location at the Premises and that all available boxes were searched.”

Plainly, the government did not believe this story. Over two weeks before the June 3 meeting, the FBI had completed its inspection of the first 15 boxes. Agents found that Trump had strewn classified documents, with no apparent rhyme or reason, throughout the boxes. Classified documents were intermingled with items having nothing to do with classified matters. The government thus had reason to believe that (a) there would likely be more classified information strewn through the boxes in the storage area (which was why Trump’s lawyers would not let the contents of the boxes be inspected); and (b) classified documents were likely being kept in areas outside the storage room (the Trump team’s assertions to the contrary notwithstanding).

To be clear, then, the government was not content to allow Trump to keep the boxes in the storage area. The Justice Department fully intended to pursue the boxes, though it was not prepared to escalate matters right there and then on June 3. The DOJ admonished the Trump team to tighten up security and later demanded surveillance video through an additional grand-jury subpoena. But these were interim measures to which the government agreed in deference to Trump’s status as a former president. (In similar circumstances, normal suspects who were withholding subpoenaed government records would have been treated to a view of the FBI’s carrying their boxes away, probably while being charged with obstruction, handcuffed, and taken away themselves.)

6. The Classified Documents Delivered on June 3
The classified documents provided on June 3 were packaged in a Redweld envelope, “double-wrapped in tape” — a detail prosecutors include to emphasize that Trump and his lawyers knew the contents were highly classified and were not claiming they’d been declassified. Included were 38 separate classified documents, 17 of which were classified at very high levels.

7. ‘Obstructive Conduct’ and Fears of Witness Tampering
In its court filing, the government explicitly describes the Trump team’s behavior in response to the grand jury’s June 3 subpoena as “obstructive conduct.” It is also implicit that the FBI has located one or more witnesses with knowledge of Mar-a-Lago’s layout and the former president’s routine. The submission relates:

In particular, the government developed evidence that a search limited to the Storage Room would not have uncovered all the classified documents at the Premises. The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation.

Relatedly, prosecutors quote Magistrate Judge Reinhart’s observation at the hearing on whether the affidavit should be disclosed in unredacted form: “These concerns are not hypothetical in this case. One of the statutes for which I found probable cause was 18 U.S.C. § 1519, which prohibits obstructing an investigation.”

Again, while we have not seen the relevant portions of the affidavit, we have very good insight into what the witnesses were telling the FBI. In their submission, prosecutors stress that, based on the probable cause showing in the affidavit, Reinhart’s warrant authorized the search of:

the “‘45 Office’ [the former President’s office space at the Premises], all storage rooms, and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by [the former President] and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate” but not “areas currently (i.e., at the time of the search) being occupied, rented, or used by third parties (such as Mar-a-Largo Members) and not otherwise used or available to be used by [the former President] and his staff, such as private guest suites.”

That is to say: There was reason to believe both that Trump was hoarding classified documents in his office, and that, because he did not exercise care in handling such documents, there could be classified documents kept in other places that he and his staff frequented.

Not only did Trump, through his team, falsely represent on June 3 that all remaining classified documents were in the Redweld envelope they’d turned over; prosecutors stress that the search conducted at Mar-a-Lago on August 8 also “cast serious doubt on the claim in the [June 3] certification (and now in [Trump’s special-master motion]) that there had been a ‘diligent search’ for records responsive to the grand jury subpoena.”

That search yielded over 100 classified documents — which, the Justice Department emphasizes, is “more than twice the amount produced on June 3” in response to the subpoena. The government’s motion includes a photograph (Exhibit F) showing that many of the documents “had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status.” In the storage room alone, agents found 76 classified documents — meaning, prosecutors point out, that “the FBI, in a matter of hours, recovered twice as many documents with classification markings as the ‘diligent search’ that the former President’s counsel and other representatives had weeks to perform.” Most of the classified documents were found strewn willy-nilly in boxes. Three were located in desks in Trump’s “45 Office.”

Conclusion
In separate posts, I’ll have some observations about the legal arguments posited by the Justice Department in rebuttal to Trump’s special-master motion. My objective here has been to focus on obstruction. For some time, I’ve doubted the notion that the Justice Department is trying to make a case against Trump for mishandling classified information or illegal records retention based on the Mar-a-Lago search. But I’m less doubtful about the possibility of an obstruction case, because as I’ve explained:

If there is convincing proof of attempts to conceal or destroy government records, especially highly classified ones, that could change the equation. The Justice Department typically takes very seriously any tampering with witnesses or evidence. I am not saying the former president is guilty of such behavior — and again, we don’t know what the government represented to the court in this regard. But it might well be possible for the Justice Department to prosecute a narrow obstruction case without having to expose classified intelligence and the identities of, at least, most of its informants.

Now that we’ve seen more of the government’s proof in this regard, I believe former president Trump is likely to be charged with obstruction of justice and causing false statements to be made to investigators. It does not appear that those charges would be difficult to prove. Proving them does not involve navigating the same complications that would arise from trying to prove classified-information offenses. Just as critical, they involve conduct that would be very easy for the public to understand, and for which the average person would be indicted.

Trump apologists would surely counter that a not-so-average person named Hillary Clinton was not indicted for recklessly mishandling classified information, actually destroying thousands of government records, and making misleading statements (such as the laughable claim that she did not understand classified markings) in her FBI interview. Of course, the Biden Justice Department would not be very sympathetic to that analogy, and Trump would not exactly be arguing from a position of strength if his best defense were that someone else was not charged for comparably serious crimes. Trump’s better hope may be that he is more useful to Democrats as a badly compromised Republican presidential candidate than as a criminal defendant.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022...filing-suggests-a-trump-indictment-is-coming/

 

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Wait until despicables find out that similar battles (without all the politics) have been waged with every former president since Nixon.

 

I thought you were talking about...

 

Funny.



Thinskin

 

"Like Schrödinger’s Cat, the seized documents have two fates at once. They are at once so secret that they justify an unprecedented imposition on a former president, and they are simultaneously fully suitable for being leaked and discussed in the pages of the Washington Post."

This is exactly how you know the DOJ is utterly corrupt. While hack AG Merrick Garland publicly bemoans the lack of respect for his agency, his minions are hard at work leaking to the media, every chance they get. Does anyone still remember when that, in and of itself, was illegal?

For the Deep State, Trump Was Never President
How the deep state, the media, and the current president have treated Trump reveals that all the pious talk of
Our Democracy™ is a pretext and a lie.
By Christopher Roach
September 8, 2022

There is something peculiar going on with the post facto attempts to justify the search of Donald Trump’s home. At first we were told that he had purloined American nuclear secrets, complete with rank speculation that he sold them to the highest bidder. Then the magistrate who authorized the search warrant ordered the release of a highly redacted supporting affidavit. The affidavit said nothing about nuclear secrets and also had no specificity about the documents being sought; rather, it showed that the whole affair arose from a spat with the National Archives, the presidential equivalent of overdue library books.

When the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago, evidently they took everything, including personal effects, passports, and a large number of sensitive documents protected by attorney-client privilege. In a separate lawsuit brought by Trump, another federal judge appointed a special master to review the seized documents. This decision implicitly recognized that Trump’s claims of executive privilege may have some weight. After this, the leaks changed. The leakers dropped the nonsense about American nuclear secrets, and said, instead, that Trump possessed a report about an unnamed nation’s nuclear capability.

Like Schrödinger’s Cat, the seized documents have two fates at once. They are at once so secret that they justify an unprecedented imposition on a former president, and they are simultaneously fully suitable for being leaked and discussed in the pages of the Washington Post.

One may recall that during the Obama years, the administration went hard against leaks, including subpoenaing phone records and other documents from reporters whose stories suggested access to classified information. Here, there has been no substantial effort to identify the leaker. Whoever is talking to the Washington Post is likely someone very high up, and the leaks are being made with the White House’s blessing.

Russiagate Precedent Suggests This Is All Pretextual
Because of the leaks and their earlier track record, it is hard to take the critics and their claimed concern for national security seriously. They told us for years about the other shoe would drop on Russiagate. The cloud created by these investigations hurt Trump and the nation for more than half of his term in office. But it turned out the foundation of these investigations was completely made up.

There was no evidence of Russian collusion or compromising information about Trump. Worse, FBI Director James Comey and Special Counsel Robert Mueller knew early on that the Steele dossier was full of lies concocted by the Hillary campaign, but they kept that information to themselves. These tall tales were the pretextual reason for a two-year, distracting, and defamatory investigation of the president.

Biden and partisan Democrats insist on the propriety of the recent raid, but there has been a substantial public backlash, and the documents supporting the raid do not match the gravity of the initial reporting.

After all, Trump could share, use, or declassify anything he wanted in any manner he wanted as president. While in office, he was privy to the most sensitive secrets imaginable. Whatever he learned then, he still knows today. Just as important, he remains the former president, entitled by law to a staff, Secret Service protection, and national security briefings.

Illegitimate from the Start
Trump was an enemy of business-as-usual and had a unique everyman style, and they hated him for it. Members of the executive branch, whose power is on loan from the president, imagined themselves to be part of the Constitution’s system of checks and balances, accountable only to the hive mind of Washington, D.C.

At first, they said he “stole the 2016 election” through “Russian collusion.” Once he was in office, they treated him as an interloper and continued to obstruct him in the name of middlebrow, career-government-worker ideology. Recall Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman’s paeans to the “interagency process.” During his presidency, military subordinates lied to Trump and sabotaged his plans, the civilian bureaucracy made a virtue of being #TheResistance, and he was harried for most of his term by FBI investigations and plots among the intelligence services.

The contrast between the unelected government’s treatment of Trump and Biden is manifest. General Mark Milley was all broken up about “being used for a photo-op” when Trump visited a riot-scarred Lafayette Square. Today, Milley has no problem with two Marines flanking Joe Biden in an extreme partisan speech last week.

This is why the establishment has lost it after Judge Aileen M. Cannon’s ruling on a special master. While critics have suggested she is a partisan whose decision was poorly reasoned, their real complaint is that Cannon treated Trump as an ordinary former president.

As a consequence, the special master’s review will focus not only on legal privilege, but also executive privilege. Her decision referenced relevant Supreme Court precedent, which contradicts the Biden Administration’s dangerous claim to have the power to waive the executive privilege of its predecessor. Ultimately, she ruined the Department of Justice’s plans to be the “fox guarding the henhouse” by having their own personnel do a review of material protected by attorney-client and executive privilege.

If the military, the Justice Department, and the deep state would not treat Trump as president while he was in office, they certainly won’t give him deference as a former president today. The current persecution of Trump is designed to keep him from becoming president again. Like his persecution during his presidency, the process is distracting and expensive and staged to embarrass and humiliate him regardless of the outcome.

If Trump is arrested—which I think is increasingly likely after Biden’s speech last week—they hope to use the optics of an arrest as an additional basis to prevent his reelection in 2024. They will also use his supporters’ angry reaction, as well as any excesses, to further demonize and crack down upon “MAGA Republicans.”

How the deep state, the media, and the current president have treated Trump reveals that all the pious talk of Our Democracy™ is a pretext and a lie. For four years, they bent and broke every rule in the book in order to keep the people’s choice from governing. Today, they are breaking every rule to prevent him from becoming president again. This is the very opposite of democracy.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/08/for-the-deep-state-trump-was-never-president/