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  1. anon_de_plume

    anon_de_plume Porn Star

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    Then please do explain how they ended up at Mar-a-lago's basement, and why Trump didn't give them back when first asked?
     
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    1. Barry D
      Like I said, I didn't think so....Nice try though...
       
      Barry D, Aug 29, 2022
    2. anon_de_plume
      LOL! You've no clue how they ended up there, but considering that Trump has claimed these documents to bring to him, I'm sure you'll keep defending his crimes against the country.
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 29, 2022
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  2. shootersa

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    More facts not in evidence.
     
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  3. smoothgrl

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    First of all, it's bullshit, one word. Not bull shit, ....bullshit. Not two words, all one word, ... bullshit.
    Second, you don't spit bullshit, you spew your bullshit. OK.
    Even when it's one word, you should use a possessive with it,
    I know, that's two mistakes in one.
    Third, it's not you're, it's your, ...from your brain. You're is a contraction of 'you' and 'are',
    you wouldn't say, from you are brain, so it's your, from your brain.
    Fourth, you don't spit from your brain.

    For someone that claims to be a former U.S. attorney and has spent decades working in the US justice system,
    you have a staggeringly terrible grasp of the English language.

    Have a lovely day.
     
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    2. anon_de_plume
      And the resident self-proclaimed space alien from Xcebia chimes in with non-sense...
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 30, 2022
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    3. shootersa
      Smack it genius.
      Hard.
       
      shootersa, Aug 30, 2022
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    4. anon_de_plume
      Smack what? You?

      Fine! Fuck you, space alien from some unknown planet that never existed!
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 30, 2022
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    5. shootersa
      Well, you could try to smack shooter. And one of us would go to the hospital and the other go to jail.
      Do you have a preference, genius?

      Now don't be obtuse. You know what you're going to smack, you been doing it around here long enough.
       
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    6. anon_de_plume
      LOL!
       
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  4. anon_de_plume

    anon_de_plume Porn Star

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    Really? Not in evidence? Then explain how the FBI found a number of boxes in the Mar-a-lago basement?

    You do work overtime with ignorance!
     
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  5. shootersa

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    And those documents are proven not to be personal records?
    By who?
    How?
    What were they, so we know they didn't belong to Trump?
    Try again sonny.
     
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      We know for a fact the National Archives has determined they are presidential records subject to the Presidential Records Act and Trump was informed of that before he even left the White House.

      And if you had actually read the Judaical Watch opinion you pretended you did you would know the sole authority for what are and are not presidential records is the National Archives.
       
      stumbler, Sep 1, 2022
    3. shootersa
      And if you read the decision you'd know that NARA is NOT the decider of what is or is not a government record.
      According to the decision, if the President says it's private it's private.
      The NARA role is to protect presidential records. Not determine what is and is not a presidential record.

      Now, you got a reliable source for NARA telling Trump what was and was not presidential records?
      And to save you time, if your source is "a source familiar with the situation" you can not even bother to cite it. Just say you don't have a reliable source.
       
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  6. Scotchlass

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    It's a good thing they walked FBI Agent Timothy Thibault out of the building instead of placing him in handcuffs, might leave a bad impression of the FBI if he was in cuffs. Everyone knows HE was the problem. Just HIM. But now the FBI is fixed. All fixed now. Carry on.

    (Pssst, hey! Ya wanna buy a Russian collusion narrative? I've totally got a pee tape to go with it.)

    FBI Agent Accused Of Sabotaging Hunter Biden Laptop Investigation Escorted Out Of Building
    by Tyler Durden
    Monday, Aug 29, 2022 - 04:20 PM

    An FBI special agent at the heart of whistleblower allegations that he sabotaged the agency's 2020 investigation of Hunter Biden has been escorted out of the bureau's Washington DC field office, and was seen "exiting the bureau’s elevator last Friday escorted by two or three "headquarters-looking types,"" according to the Washington Times.

    Timothy Thibault, who was in charge at the Washington field office until "relatively recently," was on leave for at least a month following revelations over political statements he made while leading the public corruption unit.

    Thibault, among other things, made anti-Trump statements over social media in 2020 while he was helping to lead the FBI's probe of Hunter Biden, while his father, Joe Biden, was running for the White House. The FBI boss also retweeted a post by the Lincoln Project which called Trump "a psychologically broken, embittered and deeply unhappy man."

    During recent testimony before the Senate, FBI Director Christopher A. Wray dodged questions about Mr. Thibault and his social media posts. He called it “ongoing personnel matters.” Mr. Thibault, according to the former official, was also known for pushing out unvaccinated agents from the FBI’s election squad that he suspected to be Trump supporters.

    One of the former officials, who is also a whistleblower talking to the House Judiciary Committee, was placed on indefinite suspension last year by the bureau because he attended the “Stop the Steal” rally in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021, that preceded a pro-Trump mob storming of the Capitol. The former officials said he never entered the Capitol.

    After resigning late last year, he claimed other FBI officials were “purged” for attending the rally on their own time and not on official FBI business. -Washington Times

    In late May, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) sought records from the DOJ regarding Thibault's work history following the accusations of political bias. "Political bias should have no place at the FBI, and the effort to revive the FBI’s credibility can’t stop with his exit. We need accountability, which is why Congress must continue investigating and the inspector general must fully investigate as I’ve requested," he told the Times in a statement.

    Meanwhile, several FBI whistleblowers told Grassley earlier this year that agents investigating Hunter Biden "opened an assessment which was used by an FBI headquarters team to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation and caused investigative activity to cease," adding that his office received "a significant number of protected communications from highly credible whistleblowers" regarding the investigation.

    Grassley added that "verified and verifiable derogatory information on Hunter Biden was falsely labeled as disinformation," according to the Washington Examiner.

    FBI supervisory intelligence agent Brian Auten opened in August 2020 the assessment that was later used by the agency, according to the disclosures. One of the whistleblowers claimed the FBI assistant special agent in charge of the Washington field office, Timothy Thibault, shut down a line of inquiry into Hunter Biden in October 2020 despite some of the details being known to be true at the time.

    A whistleblower also said Thibault “ordered closed” an “avenue of additional derogatory Hunter Biden reporting," according to Grassley, even though “all of the reporting was either verified or verifiable via criminal search warrants.” The senator said Thibault “ordered the matter closed without providing a valid reason as required” and that FBI officials “subsequently attempted to improperly mark the matter in FBI systems so that it could not be opened in the future,” according to the disclosures.

    The whistleblowers say investigators from FBI headquarters were "in communication with FBI agents responsible for the Hunter Biden information targeted by Mr. Auten's assessment," and that their findings on whether the claims were in fact disinformation were placed "in a restricted access sub-file" in September 2020, according to Grassley, who added that the disclosures "appear to indicate that there was a scheme in place among certain FBI officials to undermine derogatory information connected to Hunter Biden by falsely suggesting it was disinformation."

    Amid the revelations that the FBI told Facebook to quash the Hunter Biden laptop story - a clear case of election interference, Trump called for an "immediate" redo of the 2020 election,

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    Last week, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed that the FBI told them to be on the lookout for "Russian propaganda." "Basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us- some folks on our team and was like, 'Hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert… We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. We have it on notice that, basically, there's about to be some kind of dump of that's similar to that. So just be vigilant," Zuckerberg told Rogan.

    As a reminder, Hunter Biden abandoned his laptop at a Wilmington, Delaware repair shop on April 12, 2019. The owner, John Paul Mac Isaac, walked into the Albuquerque FBI office, where he explained what he had, but was rebuffed by the FBI. He was told basically, get lost. This was mid-September 2019.

    Two months passed and then, out of the blue, the FBI contacted John Paul Mac Issac. Two FBI agents from the Wilmington FBI office–Joshua Williams and Mike Dzielak–came to John Paul’s business. He offered immediately to give them the hard drive, no strings attached. Agents Williams and Dzielak declined to take the device.

    Eight months later, Isaac provided a copy to then-President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who provided a copy of the hard drive to The Post.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...en-laptop-investigation-escorted-out-building
     
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    1. stumbler
      More straight up Russian false propaganda.
       
      stumbler, Sep 1, 2022
  7. shootersa

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    So we'll never know if trump would have won if the Hunter Biden laptop thingy had been fully investigated at the time and not buried by the FBI.
    But we do know the higher echelon believed it would have put Trump back in the Oval office, or at least had a negative impact on the election, don't we?
     
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  8. stumbler

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    DOJ has an ‘obligation’ and can then ’deal with the repercussions of MAGA violence: Alberto Gonzalez

    Bob Brigham
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    Former George W. Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales argued on CNN on Tuesday that current Attorney General Merrick Garland has an obligation to enforce the law and should not be deterred by Donald Trump supporters threatening violence if their MAGA leader is arrested.

    CNN's Kasie Hunt played a clip of President Joe Biden discussing the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol while campaigning in Pennsylvania.

    "My Republican friends in Congress, don't tell me you support law enforcement if you won't condemn what happened on the 6th," Biden said. "Don't tell me."

    "What do you make of that?" Hunt asked. "President Biden responding to President Trump and many of his supporters?"

    IN OTHER NEWS: Three Arizona Republicans must pay ex-Dem lawmaker’s $75,000 legal fees for ‘groundless’ lawsuit

    "You know, I would go a little but further," Gonzales replied. "I would say don't tell me you believe in the rule of law, don't tell me you believe in democracy, if you are not willing to condemn what happened on Jan. 6 so listen, i think we have issues on both sides of the aisle, quite frankly, but I certainly agree with the sentiment that don't tell me that you support the police if you're not willing to condemn what happened on Jan. 6."

    "He also talked," Hunt said. "President Biden talked at some length about political violence and he seemed to be responding to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) when he said, if such and such, this is President Biden, if such and such happens, there will be blood in the streets. of course, potentially referring to Lindsey Graham saying over the weekend that there would be riots in the streets in the event that the former president is indicted over the search down at Mar-a-logo. What was your take on the president's pushback to those comments?"

    "Let me comment first on Sen. Graham's comments, which I thought were terrible, quite frankly," Gonzales said. "The notion that there should be any kind of violence in response to what may happen in our courts, again, the procedure is going to go according to the Constitution. Former President Trump, if he is in fact charged and tried, it will be pursuant to the protections afforded any defendant in our country."

    "And so, you know, whatever the repercussions or outcome of anything that happens with respect to the search at Mar-a-Lago, there shouldn't be violence in response to that," Gonzalez continued. "So I condemn what Sen. Graham said. I think it was inappropriate and I think it was wrong."

    Gonzales said that if Garlarnd, "believes a crime has been committed and he believes he can prove that crime, beyond a reasonable doubt in our courts, then he has an obligation to move forward. The most he can do at that point is of course prepare, have the federal government prepare for any kind of reaction that may arise as a result of the charges, as a result of the trial, as a result of a conviction. But make no mistake about it, he has an obligation as the attorney general to make sure that crimes are prosecuted. and you know, and deal with the repercussions when they occur."

    Watch video below or at this link.



    https://www.rawstory.com/merrick-garland-trump-2657967552/
     
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  9. anon_de_plume

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    President Hyperbolic spews his rhetoric!
     
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  10. shootersa

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    See how the propaganda works?
    "sources" report threats against DOJ if trump is arrested.
    Then we have "experts" telling us that no matter Trump must be arrested, no matter the violence of his supporters.
    So we go from an inference to a fact and build from there.
    Shame on despicables.
     
  11. anon_de_plume

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    "Sources"? Try Lindsay Graham. He's the one saying there will be violence. Or did you miss that?
     
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      And no one called for riots. In fact they condemned the riots that happened when social justice protests turned violent. With many of those riots sparked by far right agitators of infiltrated the protests.

      While @Scotchlass totally ignores all the instances of armed treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans showing up armed at the houses of election workers, school board, and health care workers.
       
      stumbler, Aug 31, 2022
    3. stumbler
      @Scotchlass also ignores Trump himself is also calling on his domestic terrorists to commit violence.
       
      stumbler, Aug 31, 2022
    4. thinskin
      I think Scothlass is a former banned member riding incognito!

      ts
       
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    5. shootersa
      So wait.
      Maxine waters is just encouraging people to exercise their free speech rights when she said find Trump people and harrass them.
      And Pelosi encouraging riots is just "exuberant" then?
      And Where did Trump say run out and commit violence?
      Speaking of tools .............
       
      shootersa, Aug 31, 2022
    6. shootersa
      @Scotchlass
      Huh. Shooter had no idea you knew how to ride.
      Or were a member of "banned"
      Is "banned" a club?
      Is it a band?
      How does one join, anyway, this "banned"?

      And who is "incognito"?
      A horse?
      A camel?
      Perhaps an elephant?
      Can you provide a photo?

      inquiring minds want to know!
       
      shootersa, Aug 31, 2022
  12. shootersa

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    Oh, so saying there will be violence in the streets if Trump is i dicted is a threat against the DOJ?
    Didn't hear you hopping up on that high moral ground when despicable legislators called for riots. Or called for violence against the trump administration.
    Double standard perhaps?
     
  13. stumbler

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    So @shootersa and @Scotchlass is this how some of the most closely guarded secrets our nation has should me handled? Do you two personally approve of this?

    Totally secure? So Trump cleans his own room and makes his own bed is that what you are telling us?


    DOJ releases photo of 'top secret' documents seized from Trump's home

    Jake Johnson, Common Dreams
    August 31, 2022


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    The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday released a photo of classified documents it retrieved from Donald Trump's Florida home earlier this month, the latest disclosure in its investigation into the former president's removal of secret government records from the White House following his 2020 election loss.

    The heavily redacted photo, which shows documents clearly marked "secret" and "top secret" sprawled out on carpet, accompanied a new 36-page filing in which the Department of Justice said it compiled evidence that "efforts were likely taken to obstruct" its investigation, a finding that puts members of Trump's team and potentially the former president himself in even more legal jeopardy.

    The filing notes that the FBI "developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed" from a Mar-a-Lago storage room that Trump's team claimed was the location of all the documents removed from the White House.

    "Against that backdrop, and relying on the probable cause that the investigation had developed at that time, on August 5, 2022," the filing reads, "the government applied to Magistrate Judge Reinhart for a search and seizure warrant, which cited three statutes: 18 U.S.C. § 793 (Willful retention of national defense information), 18 U.S.C. § 2071 (Concealment or removal of government records), and 18 U.S.C. § 1519 (Obstruction of federal investigation)."



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    DOJ releases photo of some documents recovered in Trump's office at Mar-a-Lago.The filing says in some instances "even FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents."


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    9:35 PM · Aug 30, 2022


    Federal agents ultimately removed more than 30 boxes of material from the White House during its recent raid of Mar-a-Lago, which set off a firestorm of reaction from the former president's far-right base and his loyalists in Congress.

    The FBI's stated finding that documents were "concealed and removed" from the Mar-a-Lago storage room conflicts with a sworn certification provided to the Justice Department by one of Trump's attorneys, believed to be Christina Bobb.

    The certification states that after receiving a subpoena for the documents in the spring of this year, a "diligent search was conducted of the boxes that were moved from the White House... in order to locate any and all documents that are responsive to the subpoena."

    DOJ's filing notes that "counsel for the former president represented that all the records that had come from the White House were stored in one location—a storage room at the premises."

    But when federal agents arrived at Mar-a-Lago in early June to retrieve the documents requested under the subpoena, "the former president's counsel explicitly prohibited government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room, giving no opportunity for the government to confirm that no documents with classification markings remained."

    The Justice Department seized the remaining documents during its raid earlier this month.

    DOJ's Tuesday filing came days after the agency made public a redacted version of a 38-page affidavit that backed the raid of Trump's Florida home on August 8.

    Reuters noted early Wednesday that the filings were released "ahead of a Thursday court hearing before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon in West Palm Beach."

    "She is weighing Trump's request to appoint a special master who would conduct a privilege review of the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago," the outlet reported. "The Justice Department on Tuesday said it opposed the appointment of a special master. Trump, prosecutors argued, lacks standing in the case because the records 'do not belong to him.'"

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-top-secret-documents/
     
    1. shootersa
      A perfect example of how propaganda works.

      Tell you what, stumbler, we're never going to know with any detail what those documents are, or that they were still top secret when Trump took them to Mar a Lago, or that he even did take them to Mar a Lago. At this point nothing the FBI/DOJ does is above suspicion.
      Nothing.

      So here. let Shooter get on the record for you so you'll maybe shut up about it.
      IF Trump took documents that were classified and knew he should not he needs to be held accountable for it, the same way as every other President and government official.
       
      shootersa, Aug 31, 2022
  14. Scotchlass

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    This from @Anon:
    Take note how @Scotchlass once again just blatantly lies.
    Scotchlass said:
    Followed quickly by
    The Republican baseball practice shooter,
    That shooting was in 2017. Long before anything she is trying to pretend were calls for violence. In both instances she cites no one is calling for violence against anyone. Nancy Pelosi was saying Americans should protest Trump's child separation policy which amounted to kidnapping.

    And Maxine Waters was calling for people protesting Trump administration officials in public.


    I just gave you some examples, yet you pretend it was an exhaustive list and then use this stupid excuse to call me a liar. It was not an exhaustive list and you knew that when you said I lied. But all of this is OK because we have literally come to expect Leftists to lie. The Left's attempts to intimidate and use "soft" violence goes back before Trump got elected in 2016. And Trump's election only multiplied the threats -- remember that "D" List comedienne holding his bloody, severed head, or the number of celebrities who called for his assassination or for Trump to be beaten up?

    So yeah, the 2017 shooting actually was part and parcel of the spectrum of Leftist political violence. But this was political violence a la maximum, despite your dishonest, pedantic attempts to "write it off" by playing some sort of ridiculous game with timelines in my post. And for you to defend Pelosi and Waters by claiming they were only suggesting or calling for protesting, as if being surrounded by a group of screaming people is not a sort of intimidating "soft" violence in itself, is literally incredible. I kind of remember you telling us that you considered Trump calling for people to show up on January 6th to be an incitement to violence?? Or maybe it was one of the other Leftist drones on this site??

    Like I said, you guys always start something without figuring out where it's gonna end. It's always short term gain for Liberals and forget about the long term impact... Another example of this was Harry Reid lowering the Senate vote threshold to 51 to confirm most presidential appointments, an act which was celebrated by you guys as a "win." Even though it was only a short term gain because, then, Republicans did the same thing, but now for their SCOTUS nominees and you Dems were furious. Geez, it just wasn't fair, ya know?

    And as usual, when challenged, none of you will ever take responsibility for any of your side's excesses.
     
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      No you blatantly lied @Scotchlass. Which you do quite often. Like claiming J6 defendants were being held in jail without charges.
       
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  15. !Michael!

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    Photos of "top secret " documents?

    Let that sink in for a minute.

    IF they were really "top secret " they could not be photographed! Much less shared on any social media.
     
  16. anon_de_plume

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    I did not write this. Why do you feel this burning need to put words in my mouth?
     
    1. stumbler
      Because he/she/it is all shook up getting busted just blatantly lying again.
       
      stumbler, Aug 31, 2022
    2. anon_de_plume
      I did wonder why she decided to break the chain in the discussion. I usually find when she or shooter do that is because they're trying to obfuscate the discussion. Hope she got her rocks off with her little game.
       
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    @Scotchlass
    Now why would you try to put anything in anon's mouth?
    Shooter has always found Anon's foot in the way when Shooter tried to put something in anon's mouth.:D
     
  18. anon_de_plume

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    Huh, I wonder if @Scotchlass has ever heard of Donald J Trump?
     
  19. anon_de_plume

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    Oh look, if it isn't the space alien troll coming round the mountain...
     
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      More trolling from the space alien super troll!
       
      anon_de_plume, Aug 31, 2022