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  1. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    When they use propaganda so routinely we know they no longer believe in their own agenda.

    Mid terms approach.
     
  2. Barry D

    Barry D Over-Watch Commander

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    The only "agenda" they have is to impoverish and starve everyone they can in the United States... Oh I forgot, Orange man bad...
     
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  3. anon_de_plume

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    And your goto move now is to call everything propaganda without saying why it is propaganda.

    I know it's pointless to ask...
     
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    2. stumbler
      If you can find anything I am posting false let's see you do it @shootersa. Because otherwise you are just making false accusations again and trying to distract and deflect with the buzzword "propaganda." I will point out again the Declaration of Independence is propaganda but that does not make it false or any less of one of the greatest documents every written.
       
      stumbler, Nov 7, 2022
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    That's not propaganda. It is a well known fact that Dan Coats and many others in the Trump administration believed Putin had compromising material on Trump which is why Trump always did Putin's bidding,
     
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    A "well known fact" cannot be someone's opinion.
    Even you should know that.
     
  6. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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  7. stumbler

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    Now remember at the same time Trump was saying he didn't even know Putin he was also saying he didn't have anything to do with Russia when he was actually negotiating to build Trump Tower Moscow. And Trump throwing a fit over even being questioned about Putin is the most telling of all he is lying.

    Trump 'exploded in anger' after being grilled over his relationship with Putin before 2016 election: new book

    Sky Palma
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    Donald Trump speaking with attendees at the 2022 Student Action Summit. (Gage Skidmore/Flickr)


    A new book says Donald Trump "exploded in anger" after an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos before the 2016 election, HuffPost reports.

    Stephanopoulos grilled Trump over his alleged relationship with Vladimir Putin, and once the cameras turned off, "storm clouds came over Trump’s face," Maggie Haberman writes in her new book Confidence Man.

    “Eight f***ing follow-ups — are you f***ing kidding me?” Trump reportedly snarled. "It’s like asking me if I beat my wife. You ask me once, I say ‘F*** no,’ and we move on. You don’t then ask if I hit her with a f***ing baseball bat or a fucking golf club. That was bullsh** and you better f***ing fix it in the edit."

    IN OTHER NEWS: 'They seem stunned': Bloomberg publishes Navy records of Donald Trump’s theatrical visit to Japan

    Trump then "exploded” when Stephanopoulos later “chuckled” and said his team told him “I didn’t ask you enough” about Russia, Haberman writes.

    “Are you f***ing kidding me? Eighteen fucking follow-ups — how many different ways do I have to say I don’t know the guy?” Trump fired back.

    Read more excerpts from the book over at CNN.

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-russia-2658359570/
     
  8. stumbler

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    This is only one of several Russians who have bragged about helping get Trump including one who once said of course we have the Pee Pee tapes.

    And I would encourage everyone to actually go back and read through this thread and you will see for yourself how its just fine with treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans if Putin/Russia interfere in our elections just as long as it helps Traitor Trump. They gladly surrendered the sovereignty of the United States of America to Putin without firing a single shot. And still plan to do his bidding if they take over Congress and will give Putin Ukraine.


    'Putin's chef' boasts about US election interference: 'Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way'

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    A Russian businessman known as Vladimir Putin's "chef" admitted to ongoing efforts to interfere in U.S. elections.

    Yevgeny Prigozhin, whose Concord catering firm operates Kremlin contracts, has been formally accused of sponsoring "troll farms" that spread Russian propaganda aimed at influencing American politics, and he is the first such figure to admit to interfering with U.S. elections, reported Reuters.

    "We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere," Prigozhin said on Russia's Facebook equivalent VKontakte. "Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do."

    "During our pinpoint operations, we will remove both kidneys and the liver at once," Prigozhin added without explanation.


    READ MORE: Morning Joe rips 'Mr. Insurrection' Josh Hawley for bashing military and law enforcement

    The U.S. State Department offered a $10 million reward for information on Prigozhin's efforts to interfere in U.S. elections, and he has been sanctioned by the U.S., U.K. and European Union.

    Prigozhin admitted in September to founding the Kremlin-aligned Wagner Group mercenary force, which is active in Africa, Syria and Ukraine.



    https://www.rawstory.com/yevgeny-prigozhin/
     
    1. shootersa
      So, a Russian says they helped Trump in 2016 and that "proves" that anyone not attacking all things Trump is a (looks up) "treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican".

      But wait. They have the pee tape???
      Oh, lets see that!
      Put it here. Right here.
       
      shootersa, Nov 7, 2022
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    Game. Set. Match.
     
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    prop·a·gan·da
    [ˌpräpəˈɡandə]
    NOUN
    1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view:
     
    1. toniter
      Thank you for that. Do you still hold to your position that ALL media spews propaganda with the exception of government and STEM sources?
      (I tend to agree with you, btw. Although, I think it's possible to sift the facts from the bias bs, fact check, then think for yourself.)
       
      toniter, Nov 7, 2022
    2. stumbler
      Examples Of Propaganda In The Declaration Of Independence
      Examples Of Propaganda In The Declaration Of Independence
       
      stumbler, Nov 8, 2022
    3. shootersa
      Which examples again?
      Rhetorical question.

      Anyone who calls America a "shithole country" and "banana republic" will do anything to attack every part of America, including lies and propaganda.
       
      shootersa, Nov 8, 2022
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    The point is to sift out the shit to get at the facts, whatever the source. Even stem and government sources can get it wrong in shooters opinion.
     
  12. shootersa

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    https://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/a-guide-to-clintons-emails/

    Did Clinton’s emails contain classified information?

    Yes. More than 2,000 of the 30,490 emails Clinton turned over to the State Department in December 2014 contained classified information, including 110 emails in 52 email chains that contained classified information at the time they were sent or received, Comey said. The FBI director said “a very small number” of the emails containing classified information “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information,” contrary to Clinton’s claims that none was marked classified.

    “Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of the classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information,” Comey said.
     
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    manuel42 cum gunner of the highest order Banned!

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  14. stumbler

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    Every time you shake a Trump tree a Russian falls out.

    Rudy Giuliani ally widely believed to be a Russian spy charged with money laundering

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    Andrii Derkach, a pro-Kremlin Ukrainian politician whom American intelligence agencies believe is a Russian spy, has been charged with multiple counts of money laundering.

    Rolling Stone reports that Derkach, who infamously met with former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani in 2019 to push purported dirt on Hunter Biden, has been hit with seven counts of money laundering related to his attempted purchase of two Beverly Hills condominiums.

    Prosecutors allege that Derkach tried to hide his purchase of the condos by moving $4 million around through a shell corporation.

    “While participating in a scripted Russian disinformation campaign seeking to undermine U.S. institutions, Derkach simultaneously conspired to fraudulently benefit from a Western lifestyle for himself and his family in the United States,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael J. Driscoll said in a prepared statement about the money laundering charges.

    READ MORE: ‘Are you kidding me?’ Legal experts stunned as more Trump classified docs discovered – at a Florida storage facility

    Derkach's connections to Russian intelligence are so notorious that even former President Donald Trump's administration sanctioned him ahead of the 2020 election while describing him as "an active Russian agent for over a decade."

    Giuliani, meanwhile, has sought to defend Derkach's reputation in the past, but nonetheless admitted during an interview once that "the chance that Derkach is a Russian spy is no better than 50/50."



    https://www.rawstory.com/andrii-derkach-money-laundering/
     
    1. toniter
      That's an old pic, though. Rudy still looks relatively sane. His tie is straight and there's no hair dye running down his cheeks.
       
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    If you are a treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican make sure you take Putin's side every chance you get to get on Russian State medias. Putin always appreciates the help.

    Russian State TV Hails Lauren Boebert For Refusing To Stand For War Hero Volodymyr Zelensky
    Mary Papenfuss
    Sun, December 25, 2022 at 9:52 PM MST


    Right-wing Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) won a significant new fan — Kremlin state TV — for refusing to stand and applaud Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky when he spoke to Congress in Washington, D.C., last Wednesday.

    It hailed her as “brave” for failing to honor Zelensky, who has led his nation against a bloody, brutal invasion by Russia. The broadcast also gave shout outs to Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida) and far-right Fox News host Tucker Carlson for dissing the leader considered a hero by his country.

    Carlson had a weird meltdown over Zelensky’s appearance in a “sweatshirt.” He complained the president was dressed “like the manager of a strip club” when he pleaded for more aid from American lawmakers for his war-torn country.

    “As far as we know, no one’s ever addressed the United States Congress in a sweatshirt before, but they love him much more than they love you,” Carlson bizarrely griped to viewers.

    Russian TV picked up the dig and referred to Zelensky disdainfully as “a man in cargo pants.” It also ran a clip of Carlson mocking lawmakers for “clapping like seals” when Zelensky spoke.


    There was no immediate comment from Boebert.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-state-tv-hails-rep-045246192.html
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      Wonder how her constituents will take this "award"?
       
      anon_de_plume, Dec 26, 2022
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    Attaboys
     
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    Do you like your representative?
     
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    I have pointed out many times that even our little forum here has been flooded by paid Russian trolls trying to spread hate and discontent. But they also get lots of help from members here spreading their false propaganda which plays on sowing doubt about our elections, promoting civil unrest and civil war, and secession. So we can expect to see all that being pushed here from members who would rather support Putin if they lose elections.



    Former Russian PM’s 2023 Predictions Include a ‘Fourth Reich’ and a U.S. Civil War Resulting in Elon Musk as President
    By Kipp JonesDec 26th, 2022, 7:24 pm
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    Former Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev predicted armed conflicts, global instability, and a “Fourth Reich” for the coming year.

    On his official government Twitter page Monday, the former Russian leader and current Security Council chair shared a number of predictions for 2023 in a lengthy thread. Among them was a second U.S. civil war.


    “On the New Year’s Eve, everybody’s into making predictions,” Medvedev wrote. “Many come up with futuristic hypotheses, as if competing to single out the wildest, and even the most absurd ones. Here’s our humble contribution.”

    Medvedev, who was Russia’s prime minister from 2012 until 2020 predicted the price of oil would skyrocket while the U.K. would rejoin the European Union. Unfortunately, he said chaos would then rule:







    Medvedev also predicted a conflict between California and the rest of the country would result in the state becoming its own nation. He predicted Texas would later declare itself independent – only to sign a pact with Mexico.




    He also prophesied Elon Musk would be president of… something. Musk was not born in the U.S. and is therefore not eligible to become president.

    Medvedev ended his 2023 projections by declaring the world will soon use only digital currencies.





    Many reacted to the thread by wondering if Medvedev was being facetious or was simply vodka drunk:

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/forme...ivil-war-resulting-in-elon-musk-as-president/
     
  19. shootersa

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    First, @anon_de_plume ,she isn't Shooters representative.
    Second, no, Shooter does not like his representative.
    The fuck is good at taking care of his business, but not ours.
    Third, Shooter doesn't like his President.
    But he'll vote in 2024.
    Until then he'll still love his country and not call it a "shithole country" just because he's upset with the current administration.
    Or defend a government that is bent on stripping us of our rights in the name of "We know whats best for you" government led now by that demented fuck who can only spend money we don't have to enrich his political cronies.
     
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      No, it was a federal right for the past fifty years.
       
      toniter, Dec 27, 2022
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    3. shootersa
      It was NOT a Federal right.
      It was a right guaranteed by a SCOTUS decision.
      This SCOTUS decided the decision is one the states should make for themselves since there is nothing in the constitution that guarantees the right to an abortion.
      So the court did NOT give, or take away that right.
      What they did was decide it was a states right issue.

      Which triggers big government despicables, cause, you know, big government good.
       
      shootersa, Dec 28, 2022
    4. toniter
      Wrong, @shootersa.... the 14th amendment guarantees unenumerated rights: right to vote, right to travel, etc.... interracial marraige, same-sex marraige, etc...and, until recently, reproductive choice.
       
      toniter, Dec 28, 2022
    5. shootersa
      Well thats how the earlier court stretched the 14th to fit, isn't it?
      This court just said the states should decide the question for themselves, cause if it isn't in the constitution it belongs to the states.
      But this court did not take away anything, except a Federal right they never properly had.
       
      shootersa, Dec 28, 2022
    6. toniter
      Flim Flam explanation.
       
      toniter, Dec 28, 2022
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    Told ya so.