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  1. stumbler

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    We have to start here because @shootersa demanded a new thread before he will present his proof. It begins with this
    Tuesday at 6:13 PM
    I challenged that.

    And tben shootersa responded with.


    Now that is not true. Shootersa has never proven the Steele dossier false. It is shootersa who constantly claims the Steele Dossier is false no matter how many times I prove otherwise. I have admitted which parts of the Steele Dossier have been proven false. But since he is insisting on a separate thread to settle this its fine with me.

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    Just how stupid are you? Everywhere it's been proven false!
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    Do you have a brain?
     
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    This is shootersa constant false propaganda concerning the Steele Dossier.


    And its actually worth clicking on the link to check the comments.

    https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/who-...has-been-arrested.666979/page-3#post-14312419



    And here is my response to once again prove all that wrong.






    No one and especially not Christopher Steele ever claimed everything in the dossier is true. It is the collection of raw intelligence from mostly Russian sources. But the dossier actually turned out to be remarkably accurate.
     
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      You have to be the stupidest person on the internet to believe the piss documents are anything but fabricated smear
       
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    Stumbler wants a fight.
    He'll make some bet or promise that challenges shooter, and then when shooter proves stumbler wrong he'll deny it or run away.

    And his newest tactic, copy n paste of endless pages of shit to confuse the issue is already seen here.

    Hey stumbler, wheres the transcript from the trump driver on jan. 6?

    Nope. Shooter declines to play with the American hater.
     
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      I HAD TO fuck with it.
       
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    And this is how long shootersa's false propaganda tirade has been going on. This is from Dec. 15, 2019.

     
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      hey dumbass, nobody read any of that.
       
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    Remington or Danielle?
     
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    Are you denying you said this?

    shootersa said:
    And the one obviously looking for a fight is the one who can only resort to personal attacks after I did exactly what you told me do do.

    So now its your turn. You claim ....



    So you only have two choices here. Either back up what you are saying with sources or prove you are just playing phony false propaganda claims making the same false claims over and over and over again.
     
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      Nope.
      Theres a third choice.
      Shooter isn't playing your stupid pointless games.
      Fuck, you still haven't admitted that the nancy antoinette star chamber is a sham.
      Wheres the transcript from trumps driver and the rest of all those witnesses and all that evidence?

      Nope. Shooter isn't playing with you and you aren't going to bully him into it.
      Loser.
       
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  9. stumbler

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    Here's a little more recent source on the Steele Dossier. And as far as I know the only thing that has been proven false is Michael Cohen did not travel to Prague. So if others have other things in the dossier that have proven false lets see them. But just don't sit there and keep telling the lie everything in the dossier has been proven false.

    Revisiting the Trump-Russia dossier: What’s right, wrong and still unclear?
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    By Marshall Cohen and Jeremy Herb, CNN
    Updated 6:12 PM EST, Mon January 7, 2019





    Washington CNN —
    It’s a document that became so famous — or infamous — in the two years since its existence was reported that it’s now known by a simple two-word phrase: the dossier.

    The controversial 35 pages of intelligence memos compiled by retired British spy Christopher Steele paint a picture of widespread conspiracy of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. To Democrats and President Donald Trump’s critics, the documents tell a story that could amount to treason.

    To Trump and some of his loudest defenders, the dossier was flawed from its inception, abused by the FBI to pursue an investigation into Trump’s team that preceded the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller. Trump has said the memos are “phony” and full of lies, and has pointed out that the project was funded by his political opponents, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

    It was two years ago, January 6, 2017, that then-FBI Director James Comey briefed President-elect Trump about some details from the dossier. Days later, CNN broke the story of that briefing and reported that the FBI was investigating the accuracy of the allegations. CNN did not publish the dossier, because of its unverified status, but BuzzFeed soon posted all the memos online “so that Americans can make up their own minds.”

    The most salacious claims in the dossier remain unproven two years after it first burst into the public conversation, but many of the allegations that form the bulk of the intelligence memos have held up over time, or have proven to be at least partially true.

    While the Steele dossier is largely known for one or two key unsavory details, here’s the full rundown of how Steele’s work holds up with what we now know about Trump’s team, their contacts with Russians and Russian election meddling.

    Contacts between Trump’s team and Russians
    The dossier contains allegations against several of Trump’s campaign officials and associates of having secret contacts with Russians during the campaign. Steele’s raw intelligence reports cited unnamed sources alleging these communications were part of a widespread effort to collude on the election and secure the White House for Trump.

    When the memos spilled into public view, Trump and at least five other senior administration officials denied in emphatic and often sweeping terms that anyone involved in the campaign was in contact with Russians. But in the two years since those denials were issued, news reports and court filings revealed that at least 16 Trump associates had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition.

    Steele’s memos lay out specific meetings that haven’t been corroborated. But his claim that there was regular contact between Trump’s campaign and Russians has held up over time. When he wrote his memos in 2016, hardly any of these contacts were publicly known. They have since been revealed in Mueller’s court filings, countless news reports and testimony on Capitol Hill.

    Trump and his associates who were named in the dossier continue to vehemently deny any collusion.

    Russian meddling in the 2016 election
    While Trump and his supporters have seized on the most salacious, uncorroborated claims to discredit the dossier as a “pile of garbage,” much of Steele’s memos focused on Russia’s role interfering in the 2016 election. Steele’s intelligence memos detail a pattern and preference for Trump that have since been confirmed by the US intelligence community and indictments against Russians brought by Mueller’s investigation.

    Steele, a former MI6 intelligence operative, has a history of working with US agencies, including the FBI, and helped with the corruption investigation into FIFA, the world soccer governing body. Steele’s dossier eventually made its way to the FBI, which cross-referenced Steele’s work with its own burgeoning investigation into Russian meddling.

    Written in the midst of the campaign, Steele’s memos contained allegations that Russia was waging a broad effort to interfere, and Russian President Vladimir Putin was personally involved in the effort, motivated by his “fear and hatred” of Clinton. That assertion is now accepted as fact by the US intelligence community and Trump’s handpicked intelligence leaders, though Trump himself has refused to unequivocally accept the conclusion that Putin was trying to help him.

    Even Putin has seemingly endorsed the conclusion that he favored Trump’s candidacy. Asked during his summit with Trump last year in Helsinki, Finland, if he wanted Trump to win the election, Putin responded: “Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the US-Russia relationship back to normal.”

    The dossier said that the hacks against Democrats, which were publicly released by WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign, were part of a wider Russian hacking effort. That has since been confirmed in Mueller’s court filings, and last year, the special counsel indicted a dozen Russian intelligence agents in connection with the hacks.

    The dossier also noted efforts from the Russian government to exploit political divisions within the US and the Democratic Party after the bruising primary fight between Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders. A separate Mueller indictment dealt with disinformation efforts by a Kremlin-linked troll farm that played on those divisions. Since the 2016 election, social media companies have pulled thousands of accounts tied to Russia.

    Trump’s real estate dealings in Russia
    The dossier claimed that the Russians tried to influence Trump by offering him “sweetener” real estate deals, in hopes of drawing him closer to Moscow. The specific details about these purported deals haven’t been corroborated, but the dossier said Trump declined these offers.

    Throughout the campaign, Trump said he had “nothing to do with Russia.” When the dossier was first published, there wasn’t any indication that Trump’s company was involved in Russia beyond the Miss Universe pageant that he hosted in Moscow in 2013.

    But it recently became public knowledge that Trump pursued a lucrative project in Moscow deep into the 2016 campaign, and that his then-attorney Michael Cohen sought help from the Kremlin to move the project along. Cohen admitted these shocking details when he pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow proposal, which never came to fruition.

    Steele’s sources were right that Trump had recently explored business dealings in Russia. And his suggestion that it could be linked to the election has also been made by Mueller’s team. In court fillings, the special counsel said that the proposal “likely required” help from the Kremlin and highlighted how it overlapped with “sustained efforts” by the Russians to influence the election.

    Potential Russian leverage on Trump
    The most sensational claim in the dossier memos is that Trump was involved with prostitutes while he stayed at The Ritz-Carlton in Moscow during his trip there for the 2013 Miss Universe pageant — and that the Russians had this blackmail, or kompromat, on Trump.

    Nothing has come to light to corroborate that allegation, and Trump has denied that it happened. “Does anyone really believe that story?” Trump said in January 2017. “I’m also very much of a germaphobe.”

    Keith Schiller, who worked for years as Trump’s body man and accompanied Trump on the 2013 trip, told the House Intelligence Committee that the allegations were false. But he also testified that he was offered five women to send to Trump’s hotel room – an offer he says he rejected and perceived as a joke, according to the GOP House Intelligence Committee Russia investigation report.

    But not all leverage needs to be salacious in nature. The dossier included claims that Russian intelligence had compromising financial information about Trump.

    Cohen’s guilty plea in November revealed that he had a phone call with a Kremlin aide in 2016 about the Trump Tower Moscow project. While Trump publicly said his business had no Russian ties, the Kremlin knew about the Moscow deal and could have revealed it at any time, theoretically even with recordings of the Cohen call.

    Michael Cohen’s alleged trip to Prague
    There still isn’t any public evidence to confirm the explosive claim from the dossier that Cohen secretly met Russian officials in Prague to coordinate Kremlin interference in the election and do damage control if the alleged collusion was exposed or if Clinton won.

    Last year, Cohen’s lawyer at the time told the House Intelligence Committee that his client “has never traveled to Prague, Czech Republic, as evidenced by his US passport” and that Cohen “did not participate in meetings of any kind with Kremlin officials in Prague in August 2016.”

    Cohen repeated his blanket denials in recent weeks.

    He has cooperated with Mueller, and prosecutors said in a court filing he provided “useful information concerning certain discrete Russia-related matters core to its investigation.” Cohen says he has shared “everything” with Mueller and that the Prague claims are false.

    Michael Flynn’s paid trip to Moscow
    Another allegation that’s proven true: Steele’s sources noted that the Russian government had indirectly paid Michael Flynn to travel to Moscow, a reference to his attendance at a 2015 gala honoring the state-run broadcaster RT.

    Flynn, who later advised Trump’s campaign and was briefly Trump’s national security adviser, denied during the campaign that he received any payments from Russia.

    But a bipartisan inquiry by the House Oversight Committee in early 2017 revealed Flynn was paid more than $33,000 by the Kremlin-funded network to attend the black-tie event and participate in a question-and-answer session.

    2016 Green Party nominee Jill Stein also attended the event and was seated at the same table as Flynn and Putin. The dossier said Stein was similarly paid to participate, and the Senate Intelligence Committee is looking into her Russian ties. She denies accepting any payments.

    Carter Page’s meetings with Russians
    The dossier prominently features Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser to Trump’s campaign. Declassified documents revealed that the FBI and Justice Department in 2016 used information from the dossier – and other evidence that is still secret – to convince federal judges to approve a foreign surveillance warrant on Page. The warrant, which included evidence that remains classified explaining what the surveillance had revealed, was renewed three times into 2017.

    Page traveled to Russia in July 2016 for what he said was a personal trip. Steele wrote that Page met the president of Rosneft, a state-run oil company, and discussed a potential deal for Trump to lift US sanctions in exchange for future energy cooperation between the two countries. Steele’s intelligence on Page’s visit also includes sources claiming the Russians raised the prospect of political dirt with Page, dirt they had on both Clinton and Trump.

    No public evidence has emerged to support these allegations, and Page has denied meeting with the president of Rosneft in dozens of interviews. But under questioning by the House Intelligence Committee behind closed doors, Page admitted that he met a different official from Rosneft during the trip.

    Page said he spoke with Andrey Baranov, Rosneft’s head of investor relations. But he said he doesn’t recall any conversation with Baranov about sanctions. They made plans to meet up, Page said, because they were friends when he worked in Russia as an energy consultant.

    The Russian government owns a majority stake in Rosneft. The US Treasury Department sanctioned the company and its president after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. Trump hasn’t eased sanctions on Rosneft, and his administration has placed new sanctions on Russians.


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/dossier-two-years-later/index.html
     
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    @shootersa


    This is the opposite of bullying. All I did was call your bluff and expose your lies. Its just part of the phony games you play. And I knew as soon as called your bluff and actually put of a thread like you said you would just run away like you always do.

    And I will put a marker on this thread to see how long it is before you try to tell the same lies about the Steele Dossier again. I doubt it will be long and this thread will be very handy for exposing that.
     
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    No, you think you can bully people into playing your stupid gotcha games to feed your ego and further the despicable agenda, to say nothing of the get trump no matter what campaign.

    You haven't set the terms of the deal youl will deny when you lose, and we haven't even established the prize you'll welch on.

    And the nancy antoinette star chamber marker is still awaiting your admission you were wrong.

    You can stamp and twirl and put markers on your ..... forehead ........ but we don't have a bet, you won't keep it if we did, and all you've done so far is fill up a thread with your usual bloviating bullshit.
     
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    Now you got your triggered and then you got your babbling incoherently triggered. This the latter.
     
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    Sighs
    Cmon stumbler. Admit it.
    You're the fellow who walks into the bar looking for a fight.
    And when, inevitability, you get your ass kicked, you claim you were jumped.
     
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    And this is where you invent some image of me you can deal with and lie about because you can't face yourself and your false propaganda . You can't deal with that so making things up about me is the the only thing you can deal with.

    The topic is the Steele Dossier which you can't even address on the thread you said you wanted.
     
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    What about our earlier bet?
    You recall, don't you?
    About the Nancy Antoinette star chamber proceeded?
    The SECRET star chamber proceeding?
    Why the fuck would anyone accept a bet from you when you can't settle your old debts?
    When you can only be counted on to welch on them?
     
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    The topic of this thread is the Steele Dossier and you are the one who said to create it. The purpose is to once and for all stop your false propaganda about nothing in the dossier being true. As well as stop your false claim the dossier was used to spy on Trump after he was in the White House.

    That is all I will address on this thread.

    Here are your claims.

    shootersa said:
    The point is none of that is true. They are false claims on your part and the only way you can prove otherwise is provide actual evidence. Which of course you can't and won't do.
     
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    Shooter tires of the bully in his face.
    He figuratively punches the fucker in the nose.
    "Don't get up asshole. " ​

     
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      It needs to be pointed out the only thing that has been proven wrong here is Michael Cohen did not travel to Prague which I have pointed out many times already. Even when it comes to the Pee Pee tapes Russian officials have said of course we have them.
       
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    Turns out, stumbler will "waste" more time. What else is to be expected from a bully?
     
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    Everyone can see that is the only thing on the record even though you know very well how to use the quote and forum tools to separate quotes instead burying your false claims and false propaganda in a nearly unreadable wall of text. Which you do on purpose because nearly everything you said has already been proven false with just what has been posted so far on this thread. Which is why you don't back up a single thing you said with sources. Just more of your false claims and false propaganda where things are so just because you say so. In the face of documented proof otherwise. Just more of your dishonest tricks and the glaring double standard of moderating on this forum.
     
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    And that is because I already answered your questions on the CIA thread and you just pretended that didn't happen and tried to play the same phony game on another thread.

    https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/secr...o-help-trump-win.448644/page-201#post-9891564



    And if memory serves I posted the proof of what has been proven true in the Steele again. And you would ignore that and then just keep demanding the proof I had already provided multiple times,


    But I am glad you brought that up because here is more proof of all the things in the Steele Dossier that have been proven true on that same thread.


    https://forum.xnxx.com/threads/fbi-...falsehoods-in-memo.499409/page-3#post-9079950

    And here's the link to the story that for some reason I didn't link in the post.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/fe...steele-not-single-revelation-dossier-refuted/
     
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