There is no comparsion but the current administration isn't doing any favors for the Democrat Party. If anything, they should quietly support Trump's attempts to torpedo the Republican chances.

 

The dems did very well in 2022. The repukes were cock sure of that big red wave. Dems defeated Trump and Desantis backed candidates in many "battle ground" states.

Republican candidates in the 13 races in six battleground states where an election denier was on the ballot, 12 lost.

All three repukes who ran for governor in Arizona Michigan and Alabama all lost.

So instead of just hating Biden and dems. The repukes had best start focusing on real issues and stop with the culture war nonsense.

 

So, what do you suggest despicables be doing while deplorables are working to fix real issues?

 

As the world is being shown the info and pics on Hunter's laptop, I wonder how many "suicides" will be happening???

 

The strongest issues for the Republicans, and consequently the weakest issues for the Democrats, are crime, race, and immigration. DeSantis can exploit these issues without being burdened by Trump's glaring deficiencies of personality, character, and general knowledge.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have no one for 2024. Biden (who I like and voted for) is too old. Kamala Harris has never been popular. No other Democrat stands out as a front runner.

I am a Democrat. I have only voted for two Republicans in my life, one on the issue of crime, one on the issue of immigration. Democrats need to take DeSantis seriously.

 

Trump "fixed" the national debt with a tax cut for the rich. He promised a health care plan and infrastructure projects. He came up with neither. He never finished his Wall.

 

Not one dime. Not now, not ever.

Trump turbo charged the economy and saw more job creation and higher labor force participation than perhaps ever before.

And the groups who benefitted most (women and minorities) are groups despicables have claimed to champion.
Which we've always known was a lie.

And trump exposed that.

 

Fact-Checking Trump's Speech at CPAC

Former U.S. President Donald Trump attends the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at Gaylord National Convention Center in National Harbor, Maryland, U.S., March 4, 2023. REUTERS/Evelyn Hockstein (Evelyn Hockstein / reuters)
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WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump revived familiar falsehoods and returned to old themes in a speech Saturday night at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

Here’s a fact check of some of his claims.

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WHAT TRUMP SAID: “Killings are taking place at a number like nobody’s ever seen, right in Manhattan.”

False. Murders declined in New York by about 11% from 488 homicides in 2021 to 433 homicides last year. It was the lowest level since 2019, according to the city’s Police Department. Murders continued to decrease this year to 30 in January (compared with 31 in January 2022) and to 26 in February (compared with 36 in February 2022).

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Those numbers also pale in comparison to the height of crime in New York in the 1980s and 1990s, when Trump was a mainstay of the city and when it regularly recorded more than 1,500 murders annually. Homicides peaked in 1990 at 2,245.

WHAT TRUMP SAID: “We lost $85 billion worth of the greatest military equipment in the world.”

This is exaggerated. Trump was referring to, and overstating, the value of military equipment seized by the Taliban after the United States withdrew the last of its troops from Afghanistan last August.

According to quarterly Pentagon reports to Congress, the United States had provided $88.6 billion for security in Afghanistan from October 2001 to July 2021, and disbursed about $75 billion. That figure includes the amount spent on training, anti-drug trafficking efforts and infrastructure, as well as $18 billion for equipment. Most of the $75 billion actually went toward “sustainment,” a category that includes salaries, communications and gas for vehicles.

CNN and other news outlets have reported that the United States left behind about $7 billion of military equipment.

WHAT TRUMP SAID: “They want windmills all over the place that ruin our fields, kill our birds and are very unreliable and are the most expensive energy ever developed”

This is exaggerated. Trump has long been an ardent critic of wind turbines, but his complaints are overstated.

By one estimate, as many as 328,000 birds die each year flying into wind farms, but other things — inanimate and living — pose a far greater threat. Cats kill as many as 4 billion birds annually in the United States, fossil fuel power plants are responsible for 14.5 million and collisions with buildings as many as 988 million birds.

Wind power and other forms of renewable energy are becoming increasingly more affordable.

The Energy Information Administration estimated that onshore wind would cost about $30 per megawatt-hour by 2027, cheaper than the $52 for coal, $61 for nuclear, $41 for biomass and $47 for hydroelectric. It will remain more expensive than natural gas, solar and geothermal generation.

OTHER CLAIMS

Trump also repeated a number of other claims The New York Times had previously fact-checked:

— Trump inaccurately claimed to have “shut down” unauthorized border crossings. (The number declined during the pandemic, but began to increase again in the final months of his presidency.)

— He falsely claimed that “no other president had ever gotten anything from China, not even 10 cents.” (In the decade before Trump took office, the United States collected $8 billion to $14 billion per year from duties on Chinese imports.)

— He misleadingly characterized members of NATO as “delinquent” on payments. (All member nations pay their bills.)

— He falsely said that “no one ever heard of” the Nord Stream 2 pipeline before he raised it as an issue and halted its construction. (His predecessors all opposed the project.)

— He misleadingly claimed that the Obama administration had only supplied Ukraine with “blankets.” (It committed more than $600 million in security assistance to Ukraine.)

— He falsely claimed to have “completed” building a wall along the southern border. (It has not been finished.)

— He claimed to have presided over the “best economy in history.” (Average growth, even before the coronavirus pandemic decimated the economy, was lower under Trump than under former Presidents Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan.)


https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-checking-trumps-speech-cpac-152653719.html

 

Donald Trump Lied an Insane Number of Times at CPAC: Report

Donald Trump is no stranger to stretching the truth. However, during his appearance at CPAC on Saturday, the fire on the former president’s pants burned especially bright as he spat an inordinate amount of falsehoods concerning everything from his 2020 opponent, Joe Biden, to the Ukraine invasion. A report by CNN delved into 23 incorrect statements Trump made during his speech, describing the address as “filled with wildly inaccurate claims” while noting “that’s far from the total.” Among the falsehoods was Trump’s claim that President Obama “supplied the bedsheets” to Ukraine—an apparent reference to the money he allocated to the strategically important nation during his tenure. The claim seemingly forgets the $600 million security assistance package the country received between 2014 and 2016, while Trump was in office. He also claimed that “killings are taking place at a number like nobody’s ever seen, right in Manhattan”—a boast that is not “even close to true.” Trump even said that he “completed” the construction of the border wall with Mexico—a ludicrous claim not grounded in reality.

Read it at CNN


https://www.thedailybeast.com/donal...ber-of-times-at-cpac-says-cnn-report?ref=home

 

The despicables take liberty ascribing meaning to words and phrases to fit their narrative.

Are we in a recession or are we not?
Depends; who is in office, and who can we blame, eh?

 

But deplorables take liberty in creating events that never even happened in order to distract the people...
Just ask Kellyann about the Bowling Greene massacre!

 

Are we in a recession or are we not?
Depends; who is in office, and who can we blame, eh?

 

Yeah! You're right! It depends on who's in office, at least for the Republicans... They raised the debt limit three times under Trump, no fuss or muss, but now with Democrat presidents in office, they pull their temper tantrums over the debt limit!

And Trump is still the liar in chief...

 

And they cheered when Trump was running a trillion dollar deficit in a time of prosperity before anyone ever even heard of COVID 19.


Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years
The “King of Debt” promised to reduce the national debt — then his tax cuts made it surge. Add in the pandemic, and he oversaw the third-biggest deficit increase of any president.
https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

 

Obama added $9 TRILLION to the debt.
Trump added $4 TRILLION to the debt.
Biden added $7 TRILLION to the debt.

But Trumps debt will "weigh down the economy for years".

Now that there, that's classic despicable logic.

 

You've got your numbers between tRump and Biden mixed up....

Barry O was handed the Global Financial Crisis and added $8.6 trillion...in 8 YEARS.

tRump was handed a healthy economy that was on the rise but still managed to add $7.6 trillion...in 4 YEARS.

And Biden took over the covid-19 crisis and a fractured infrastructure and has added $3.8 trillion...in 3 YEARS.

 

@69magpie
Well, to be honest about it, Shooter was on his phone and working from memory.
He did more checking this morning.
Historical Debt Outstanding | U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data
And we are pretty much in agreement;
Obama added $9 TRILLION
Trump added $7 TRILLION.
Biden has added $3 TRILLION.

Now, setting aside the political rhetoric to defend the despicables and demonize the deplorable, the question still stands;
Trump's contribution to the debt will "weigh down the economy for years"?
Now that there, that's classic despicable logic.

 

Well, theres the rub then. Trump did not inherit a healthy economy. He inherited a limp economy that Obama insisted would be lucky to have 3% growth ever again.

 

A limp economy???... bullocks.

When tRump took over from Barry O America's economy had been rolling along with 73 consecutive months of economic growth, it hit the wall at 113 months when covid-19 broke out in America and tRump started his mismanagement of the virus

https://www.statista.com/chart/22727/seasonally-adjusted-real-gdp-in-the-us/

 

For tens of millions of Americans stopping abortion, critical race theory, affirmative action, and immigration, while establishing a harsh criminal justice system are real issues. There are not enough rich people in the United States who benefit from Republican tax cuts for the rich and de regulation. The white lower middle class and working class, most of whom vote Republican, want red meat. They want to slash welfare and bash criminals.