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  1. vinyoung

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    You had to have had two of the worst people to speak for this administration. If you put Kirby's and KJP's heads together you get the beginning of a rock garden. What were the Taliban going to do if we did not pull out when agreed upon (on which there were conditions that had to be met by them)? This administraton changed almost every other policy put in place by 45, yet the withdrawl was sacrosanct and could not be trifled with.
     
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    They expect us to believe this along with all their other lies like:
    “The border is secure”
    “Masks and vaccines work”
    “Mostly peaceful protests”
    “Hunter’s computer is Russian disinformation”
    “Jan 6 is worse than 9/11, Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust”
    “ANTIFA isn’t a group, it’s an ‘idea’”
    “Men can get pregnant”
    “The greatest threat to America is white supremacy”
    “The Afghanistan evacuation was ‘Immensely successful’”
    “Mother’s are “birthing people”
    “AR-15’s are weapons of war”
    “Walls don’t work”
    “Roads are racist”
    “Putin’s gas-tax”
    “Concerned parents are domestic terrorists”
    “Inflation is transitory”
    “Environmental Justice”
    ... and don’t forget (because regardless of any political party, you simply CANNOT because we're ALL immersed in it),
    "The Inflation Reduction Act”
    Contradict any one you choose... I'll wait.
     
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  3. vinyoung

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    Biden finds 5 envelopes in his Oval office desk drawer.
    Obama tell shim they were left for crisis management.
    When a crisis arises, open envelope 1 and follow directions
    Do same for the other four.
    So
    Crisis 1 hits. Biden opens #1. It says" "Blame it on Trump."
    Crisis 2 hits. Biden opens #2. It says" "Blame it on the Russians."
    Crisis 3 hits. Biden opens #3. It says" "Blame it on the Republicans"
    Crisis 4 hits. Biden opens #4. It says: "Blame it on Climate Change."
    Crisis 5 hits. Biden opens #5. It says: "Make up 5 more envelopes."
     
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    How did Trump come in this dialogue? We are talking about Joe sir? You guys will blame Trump if you put a wrong shoe on the wrong foot.
    I am not a stupid seal that will root for Donald J Trump but you’ll definitely root for Joe do you see this or not or you are so messed up in your life. You are nothing but a very unhappy person trying to justify by talking points. get a life.
     
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      :kiss:
       
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    I’m sorry I shouldn’t have attacked. it’s not your fault it’s your education which did not teach you to think independently or critically, you’re thinking, is based on democratic party or something like that.
    You guys will vote for a dead person

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      Trump's lies do not matter to shooter.
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 10, 2023
    3. shootersa
      Cohens lies don't matter to anon.
       
      shootersa, Apr 10, 2023
    4. anon_de_plume
      On the contrary, Cohen served his time.
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 10, 2023
    5. shootersa
      And Trump, as you so happily point out, is innocent until proven guilty.
      Cohen is GUILTY
       
      shootersa, Apr 10, 2023
    6. anon_de_plume
      Just a matter of time. I'm patient.
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 10, 2023
  7. vinyoung

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    Your mental destruction is complete nobody can help you.
    If your God is Joe Biden, God help you.
    I rest my case
     
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      Atheist, so... not a problem.

      And Joe is still better than Trump. Always will be... Hitler would be better than Trump. At least he could work a crowd properly. Trump's a blithering idiot every time he opens his mouth.
       
      darkride, Apr 9, 2023
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      That's where you are wrong, @darkride.
      Sure, if you swallow all the propaganda the question becomes "How the fuck does Trump even continue to live?"
      But if you look at the facts you quickly realize Trump was a good president.
      Clinton would have been a disaster.
      Biden is a disaster.

      No matter. 2024 approaches and we won't have to worry about either Trump or Biden.
       
      shootersa, Apr 9, 2023
  8. vinyoung

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    Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump
    How does he gets in any dialogue!
    TDS is a very powerful drug
    No need to reply because I don’t want to see Trump mentioned there
     
  9. anon_de_plume

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    Not true!
     
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    You might want to look at the title of the thread...
     
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  11. anon_de_plume

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    You do realize that this man died so close to the election that they couldn't replace him on the ballot? You also realize that there was another election held as a result? Democrats didn't vote a dead man into office!

    But you have used this for your political purpose...
     
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      You do realize that everyone is making a much larger molehill out of this pile of sand... No matter how many times it is explained, the right tries to paint it with a falsehood. Yes, people voted for a man who has recently died, but I'm sure certain they had no illusions about his coming back to life.

      How's JFK, Jr, coming along? It's he still the QAnon answer to life?
       
      anon_de_plume, Apr 10, 2023
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      dismissed
       
      shootersa, Apr 10, 2023
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    Don't these same false propaganda talking points and posting style seem very familiar? It seems uncanny to me.
     
  13. silkythighs

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    Biden wiped the floor vs Trump. A rematch would result in even a worse defeat for Trump. As Trump would be forced to relive his covid response, his "big lie" and his actions on Jan 6th. The last thing repukes want is spend so much time and energy defending Trump.

    But another Trump landslide defeat. Might exactly be what the repukes need to happen. To finally break Trump's hold on their party.
     
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      I agree
       
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      Let Trump hold them, and drag them all down...
       
      darkride, Jul 15, 2023
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    Covid is still a leading cause of death as the virus recedes

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    Sun, April 16, 2023 at 10:51 AM MDT




    Millions of Americans gathered maskless in homes and houses of worship this month for Passover, Easter and Ramadan - the latest evidence that coronavirus has retreated from public view as the pandemic winds down.

    But retreat is not the same thing as eradication: Federal health officials say that covid remains one of the leading causes of death in the United States, tied to about 250 deaths daily, on average, mostly among the old and immunocompromised.

    Few Americans are treating it as a leading killer, however - in part because they are not hearing about those numbers, don't trust them or don't see them as relevant to their own lives.



    "We're not presenting the data in a way that resonates with the American people," said Deborah Birx, who served as the first White House coronavirus coordinator under President Donald Trump, citing research that finds elevated risks of health complications and death in the months after a covid infection.

    The actual toll exacted by the virus remains a subject of sharp debate. Since the earliest days of the pandemic, skeptics have argued that physicians and families had incentives to overcount virus deaths, and pointed to errors by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in how it has reported a wide array of covid data. Those arguments were bolstered earlier this year by a Washington Post op-ed by Leana Wen that argued the nation's recent covid toll is inflated by including people dying with covid, as well as from covid - for instance, gunshot victims who also test positive for the virus - a conclusion echoed by critics of the pandemic response, and amplified on conservative networks.

    "There's so much corruption here, and it's all driven by those numbers being artificially elevated," Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Texas), a physician who formerly worked in the White House and now serves on the House panel probing the coronavirus response, said on Newsmax in January.

    Health experts and federal officials reject such criticisms, saying they are confident in the CDC's data - figures that are drawn from medical examiners and coroners completing death certificates and concluding that covid was the primary or contributing cause of death.

    "If anything, [the death toll] could even be an undercount," said Debra Houry, the CDC's chief medical officer. For instance, Houry described a scenario where an elderly patient sickened by covid suffered a traumatic fall. "Maybe covid [testing] wasn't done on the autopsy, so that's something that's going to be missed."

    Front-line physicians said that severe cases of covid have plummeted from the virus's peak in 2021, when the CDC said more than 3,000 people daily died of covid, but that infections remain a threat to vulnerable populations - and occasionally to otherwise healthy people.

    "There are still people who are getting wicked sick," said Libby Hohmann, an infectious-disease physician at Massachusetts General Hospital. She cited two covid patients she'd recently seen in the intensive care unit - "both vaccinated and near death," with one immunocompromised patient in their 60s dealing with infection from another pathogen, too, and a second patient in their 30s who was previously healthy, but suddenly fighting heart failure.

    "For most of us, it's kind of a yawn now, but . . . you see these people, covid pushes them over the cliff," she said.

    Shira Doron, chief infection control officer for the Tufts Medicine Health System, said she had broader concerns about how covid data is compiled, citing local and regional differences in how death certificates are filled out, and how health officials are tracking the long-term effects of covid infections in ways that they don't with other threats, such as flu viruses. "If you think about causes of death in this country, we certainly don't have any other infectious disease where we are counting it that way," she said.

    But Doron noted that her colleagues reviewed about 85 recent deaths at Tufts that occurred after a covid diagnosis, and found "100 percent accuracy" in those death certificates that listed covid as a cause. Moreover, "there were quite a few patients who our experts felt had died of covid-19, and it didn't make it onto the death certificate," Doron added, saying that many of those overlooked patients had suffered "long, slow declines" after covid infections.

    Doron cautioned against extrapolating nationwide from that data - but "at one hospital, in one city, in one state, we found that death certificates had underestimated covid-19."

    Outside researchers also have pointed to a nationwide pattern of excess deaths, or the number of deaths exceeding what would have been predicted for that time period, which has surpassed the number of deaths attributed to covid.

    "The non-covid death rate has not returned to pre-pandemic levels," said Andrew Stokes, a Boston University researcher who is part of a team investigating the rise in excess deaths. "We believe that there's an invisible or hidden burden of covid that has persisted essentially into the present, and those deaths are going unrecorded."

    Elisa Krcilek, vice president of Mountain View Funeral Home and Cemetery in Mesa, Ariz., said her team had seen a "new normal" of funerals, with higher call volumes than pre-pandemic but lower than at the 2021 peak of covid infections and deaths. She also estimated that covid may have played a role in about 20 percent of recent funerals, but often as a secondary cause, whereas earlier in the pandemic, about 80 percent of funerals were for people who died of covid, with the virus cited as a primary cause.

    "People that have died [directly from] covid right now are few and far between," she said.

    Americans have struggled throughout the pandemic to understand the risks of covid. In one Axios/Ipsos poll conducted last August, 35 percent of adults said they believed that more Americans were dying from traffic accidents than from covid, compared to 11 percent who thought covid was the bigger killer. A little over half of respondents said they didn't know which posed the biggest risk of death.

    About 3,850 people died in traffic accidents in August 2022, according to federal data - about one-quarter of those estimated to have died of covid that month. The CDC says that 3,918 people died from covid in the last week of August alone.

    Some advocates have accused the Biden administration of failing to highlight the ongoing covid death toll, saying that the White House has been too eager to turn the page.

    "The decision to tolerate preventable deaths in disproportionately vulnerable groups, in exchange for the convenience of more able-bodied, younger, wealthy, and white individuals, is unethical and demonstrates a reckless disregard for the lives of communities disproportionately impacted by COVID," the People's CDC, a coalition of public health experts, wrote in a report last week.

    White House officials say they have been focused on boosting access to vaccines and treatments, particularly in settings such as nursing homes, and launching an effort to develop more effective therapies.

    The virus "is not disrupting our lives in a substantial way," said Ashish Jha, the White House coronavirus coordinator, whose team is set to wind down next month. "[But] is there still more work to do to prevent serious illness and death? The answer to that is yes."

    Others charge that the covid death toll has been inflated all along, skewed by inducements that were intended to better measure the toll of the pandemic and offer support for affected families. For instance, FEMA has offered up to $9,000 in assistance for the funerals of those whose death certificates show covid as a cause of death. The program is slated to end next month when the public health emergency is lifted.

    "If your government is telling you, if you have a positive covid test, you can get $9,000 [in funeral assistance] . . . families are going to say, 'Make sure it's on there,' " said Leslie Bienen, a veterinarian who studies zoonotic disease transmission and has questioned the accuracy of covid data. "I think we'd be naive to think that doesn't influence anything."

    Stokes countered with examples of coroners in rural and conservative communities who said they had been asked by families to leave off covid as a cause of death. He also said that families seeking to add covid to a death certificate to qualify for FEMA assistance would need to go through a multi-step process to get the document amended.

    Others note that the CDC has revised its death data over time, often a function of state recalculations, and health officials have acknowledged other problems in local and national covid data. For instance, Doron played a role last year in changing how Massachusetts tracks covid hospitalizations, effectively halving the number of reported patients, by counting only severe cases.

    Wen, the physician who wrote The Post op-ed that argued covid deaths were overcounted, said she was calling for "uniform standards so that we can put this question to rest once and for all."

    "I think that this entire conversation around covid has become so polarized and frankly unscientific when what I'm calling for here is an acknowledgment that we need better standardized methodologies," Wen added.

    Houry, the CDC's chief medical officer, defended the agency's process to compile its data, saying that states did not have a consistent reporting process.

    "We're really trying to put out data in a timely fashion. And we understand there's going to be limitations to it, and that it's provisional," she said. "But because of that, the data does change."


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-still-leading-cause-death-165145140.html
     
  15. shootersa

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    say it long enough and loud enough, and no matter how big the lie, no matter how transparent the goal, people will start to believe anything.
     
  16. silkythighs

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    Trumplicans believe the 2020 election was stolen. Right shooter?
     
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    1. stumbler
      Right between the eyes.
       
      stumbler, Apr 19, 2023
    2. shootersa
      Dismissed.
      Again.
       
      shootersa, Apr 19, 2023
    3. stumbler
      What literally makes me laugh about this is who do you think you are? Some king or something? You do not have the power or authority to "dismiss" anyone. Its not like you can just sit there on your throne, wave your hand, say dismissed and we will just slink away in fear of being beheaded by the all powerful ruler.

      See you later there big shot with the same questions that terrify you because they make you confront the truth and your own cognitive dissidence.
       
      stumbler, Jul 14, 2023
    4. shootersa
      Why, the arrogant american hater thinks he and his jacked up despicables can strut around demanding answers to their bull shit questions!
      ANSWER US OR ELSE!!
      That about cover your attitude?
       
      shootersa, Jul 15, 2023
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    I have been saying this from the beginning. Let's pretend for a moment the treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican conspiracy theory is true. The COVID virus escaped from a Chinese lab. In fact let's go one step further and say they did it on purpose to kill millions all over the world. In which case Trump became the greatest ally China could hope for and at every step m helped China by making sure the virus spread through the US as fast and fast as possible and killed as many Americans as possible. With a very simple strategy. Whatever the scientists and health experts said to do just do the opposite. Which Trump has publicly admitted that's what he did.

    And is there any evidence Trump and Kushner also used COVID to kill as many minorities in Blue states as possible? Well they certainly have a record of being racists, Trump's administration was one of the most openly racist and bigoted administrations since the 1920's, and Trump used the power of the federal government every chance he got to try and punish Blue states as much as he could for not voting for him. So it sure fits the pattern. And minorities were in many instances just sitting ducks for them because they were the most likely to work in labor intensive industries that deemed them essential workers.


    Did Trump let Americans die purely for political purposes?

    Thom Hartmann
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    Kentucky MAGA Republican James Comer, Chair of the House Oversight Committee, has been exposed as basically a con man with his phony Hunter Biden bribe witness. Now he is trying to rewrite the history of Trump and Covid.
    Comer’s latest stunt to try to whitewash Trump’s role in the unnecessary death of at least a half-million Americans is to argue — nonsensically — that the virus came out of the Wuhan virology lab and therefore something, something, something Trump is not responsible. He’s doing this with House Oversight Committee hearings this week.

    The reason Comer and other MAGA Republicans are working so hard to push this perennial theory (which may be true, but so what?) is that they think directing the nation’s attention to the Wuhan lab — which got collaboration and minor funding from Anthony Fauci’s realm of the government — will point us at Fauci and thus distract us all from how many Americans Trump let die and why.

    And it’s the “why” Trump intentionally let a half million Americans die unnecessarily where our media, and the Democrats, are really missing the story.

    April 7, 2020 was the day everything changed in America. And hardly anybody realizes it.

    It was the day that caused Jared Kushner to decide that letting Black and Hispanic Americans in Blue states die of Covid — yes, intentionally using the force of law and social pressure to push people into death’s jaws — could become part of what he called “an effective political strategy” to help them win the 2020 election, and Donald Trump signed off on it.

    The most unreported story of the pandemic, the one that seems destined to be overlooked as histories are being written, is what Trump did when he learned the Covid coronavirus was largely killing Black and Hispanic people and mostly sparing whites.

    The moment he came to that realization he completely altered the US response to the pandemic, leading to the unnecessary death of 300,000 to 500,000 Americans.

    Deaths that he and his advisors apparently believed (correctly) would be, outside of nursing home residents, disproportionately Black and Hispanic people.

    It’s an amazing story and the evidence is easily found. But even Congressman Jamie Raskin missed an opportunity to point it out when he corrected Comer during yesterday’s hearing to say:

    ”[E]ven if the virus came from a lab, as indeed it could have, we don't know that yet, that would only deepen Donald Trump’s culpability because he was the one who repeatedly and enthusiastically praised China’s early handling of the pandemic and assured us that he was working closely with President Xi on the response to it.”

    But when you line up the timeline and events of 2020, a much more sinister picture of Trump’s willingness to let Americans die — and the reason why he was willing to let particular Americans die — emerges that is pretty damn compelling.

    Here’s how it played out. It’s the story of the crime of mass death done entirely for political purposes.

    Through January of 2020, Covid was limited to a few clusters in the US.

    Trump — who’d privately told Bob Woodward the disease was a “killer” that “rips you apart” — kept downplaying its severity and assuring Americans there was nothing to worry about.

    On January 30th the World Health Organization declared the outbreak “a public health emergency of international concern.”

    Louise and I joined two of my brothers and several of their and our kids on a family cruise the next day; when we left the ship and flew home on February 8th most of us were sick (we still don’t know if it was Covid) and the 3,700 passengers and crew of a different ship, the Diamond Princess, were getting headlines around the world, quarantined off the coast of Japan for two long weeks with hundreds of cases of Covid.

    March 2020 was the month when things went to hell here in the United States. On March 5th there were 129 known cases and only 11 deaths in the US: just 33 days later, hospitals were using refrigerated trucks as morgues and over 10,000 Americans were dead of Covid.

    Fear ran through communities and stalked our homes. We were washing our groceries with bleach after picking them up at the store’s parking lot from people wearing masks, goggles, and gloves. We bought up all the air filters in the country. We worked from home when we could. We isolated ourselves from other people as much as was humanly possible.

    Within those few weeks in March and early April, serious Covid outbreaks were showing up across the Northeast and Trump — who had two years earlier shut down both of the two federal pandemic task forces Obama had put into place after the Ebola scare — charged Jared Kushner with responding to the crisis.

    Trump put medical doctors on TV daily, the media was freaking out about refrigerated trucks carrying bodies away from New York hospitals, and doctors and nurses were our new national heroes.

    By March 7th, US deaths had risen from 4 to only 22, but that was enough to spur federal action. Trump’s official emergency declaration came on March 11th, and most of the country shut down during the following week.

    The skies and highways fell silent, the Dow collapsed, and millions of Americans were laid off but saving lives was, after all, the number one consideration.

    Jared Kushner put together a task force of preppie 30-something white men he knew from college to coordinate getting Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) from Trump buddies and companies close to Republican members of Congress into hospitals.

    They even had a plan for the Post Office to distribute 650 million masks — 5 to every American household — to slow the pandemic.

    But then came April 7th, just one month later, when the New York Times ran a front-page story with the headline: Black Americans Face Alarming Rates of Coronavirus Infection in Some States. It was followed the day later with the all-caps headline across the top of the front page: BLACK AMERICANS BEAR THE BRUNT AS DEATHS CLIMB.

    It hit conservative media, Donald Trump, and Jared Kushner like a lightning bolt.

    Most of the non-elderly people dying from Covid, the report found, were Black or Hispanic, not White people.

    As The New York Times reported on April 7th:

    “The coronavirus is infecting and killing black people in the United States at disproportionately high rates…
    “In Illinois, 43 percent of people who have died from the disease and 28 percent of those who have tested positive are African-Americans, a group that makes up just 15 percent of the state’s population. African-Americans, who account for a third of positive tests in Michigan, represent 40 percent of deaths in that state even though they make up 14 percent of the population. In Louisiana, about 70 percent of the people who have died are black, though only a third of that state’s population is.”

    Republicans responded with a collective, “What the hell?!?”

    Limbaugh declared solemnly that afternoon:

    “With the coronavirus, I have been waiting for the racial component.”

    And here it was:

    “The coronavirus now hits African Americans harder,” Limbaugh intoned, “harder than illegal aliens, harder than women. It hits African Americans harder than anybody: disproportionate representation.”

    It didn’t take a medical savant, of course, to figure out why, and it had nothing to do with the biology of race or Covid: it was purely systemic racism. African Americans die disproportionately from everything, from heart disease to strokes to cancer to childbirth, and are also over-represented in low-paid public-facing service jobs where they would more easily catch Covid.

    It’s a symptom of a racially rigged economy and a healthcare system that only responds to money, which America has conspired to keep from African Americans for over 400 years. Of course Black people are going to die more frequently from coronavirus.

    But the New York Times and the Washington Post simultaneously publishing April 7th front-page articles about that disparity — followed by it leading or making the news that night on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and Fox — echoed across the rightwing media landscape like a Fourth of July fireworks display.

    Tucker Carlson, the only prime-time Fox “News” host who’d previously expressed serious concerns about the dangers of the virus, changed his tune the same day, as documented by Media Matters for America.

    Now, Tucker said:

    “[W]e can begin to consider how to improve the lives of the rest, the countless Americans who have been grievously hurt by this, by our response to this. How do we get 17 million of our most vulnerable citizens back to work? That’s our task.”

    “The rest” are white people. Those “vulnerable citizens” Tucker wanted to get back to work appear to be disproportionately minorities. As a report from the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus noted:

    “Essential workers who needed to work in person, and their family members, were significantly more likely to contract the coronavirus early in the crisis. These essential workers disproportionately earned low wages and were more likely to be people of color.
    “Black and Latina women were particularly ‘overrepresented as essential workers’ at greater risk of coronavirus infection ‘with Latina women making up 22% of women grocery store workers and Black women making up 27% of women home health aide workers’…”

    On the other hand, salaried workers — overwhelmingly white — were telecommuting. For over a year I did my show from home, for example, as did all my peers at SiriusXM, Free Speech TV, and in most media operations around the country. Everywhere people could work from home, most employers were making accommodations.

    But Trump wanted the rest of the economy to recover from the election-year shutdown shock because he knew presidents running for reelection during economic bad times almost always lose. He knew that if he wanted to win in 2020, that meant getting “essential” workers like transit drivers, store clerks, and people in slaughterhouses back to their jobs.

    Particularly if they were Black or Brown.

    Brit Hume joined Tucker’s show and, using his gravitas as a “real news guy,” intoned:

    “The disease turned out not to be quite as dangerous as we thought.”

    Left unsaid was the issue of for whom it was “not quite as dangerous,” but Limbaugh listeners and Fox “News” viewers are anything but unsophisticated when it comes to hearing dog-whistles on behalf of white supremacy.

    Only 12,677 Americans were dead by that April day, but now that Trump and his rightwing media believed most of the non-elderly dying people were and would be Black and Hispanic, things were suddenly very, very different.

    Now it was time to quit talking about people dying and start talking about getting those Black and Brown people back to work, even if it meant exposing them to a deadly disease!

    On April 12th, Trump retweeted a call to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci and declared, in another tweet, that he had the sole authority to open the US back up and would announce a specific plan to do that “shortly.”

    On April 13th, the ultra-rightwing, nearly-entirely-white-managed US Chamber of Commerce published a policy paper titled Implementing A National Return to Work Plan.

    The next day, Freedomworks, the billionaire-founded and -funded group that animated the Tea Party against Obamacare a decade earlier, published an op-ed on their website calling for an “economic recovery” program including an end to the capital gains tax and a new law to “shield” businesses from Covid-deaths and -injuries lawsuits.

    Three days after that, Freedomworks and the House Freedom Caucus issued a joint statement declaring that “t’s time to re-open the economy.”

    Freedomworks published their “#ReopenAmerica Rally Planning Guide” encouraging conservatives to show up “in person” at their state capitols and governor’s mansions, and, for signage, to “Keep it short: ‘I’m essential,’ ‘Let me work,’ ‘Let Me Feed My Family’” and to “Keep [the signs looking] homemade.”

    One of the first #OpenTheCountry rallies to get widespread national attention was April 19th in mostly-white New Hampshire. Over the next several weeks, rallies filled with angry white people had metastasized across the nation, from Oregon to Arizona, Delaware, North Carolina, Virginia, Illinois and elsewhere.

    One that drew particularly high levels of media attention — complete with swastikas, confederate flags, and assault rifles — was directed against the governor of Michigan, rising Democratic star Gretchen Whitmer.

    This was around the time long-standing rightwing networks began to awaken and coordinate with each other. They reached out to members of Congress and the Senate and found allies. Trump explicitly encouraged them to require low-wage essential workers to return to their jobs.

    Suddenly things began to change as the federal government stopped trying to save lives and started promoting policies that would eventually kill — unnecessarily — a half-million Americans.

    NBC News, when they’d gotten hold of April emails from within the White House, ran the headline:

    “Trump Administration Scrapped Plan to Send Every American a Mask in April, Email Shows.”

    When Rachel Maddow reported on meat-packing plants that were epicenters of mass infection, the conservative Chief Justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court pointed out that the virus flare wasn’t coming from the “regular folks” of the surrounding white community: the sick people were mostly Hispanic and Black.

    He essentially said, “No big deal.”

    The Republican meme was now well-established and was being repeated virtually daily on Fox “News” and rightwing talk radio. Working-age white people were far, far less likely to get less sick, more likely to be asymptomatic, or — even if they were unlucky and got sick — most likely to survive a trip to the hospital.

    Then came news that bigger outbreaks than we realized were now happening in meat packing plants, places with few white people (and the few whites in them were largely poor and thus disposable).

    Trump’s response was to issue an executive order using the Defense Production Act (which he had refused to use to order production of testing or PPE equipment) to order the largely Hispanic and Black workforce back into the slaughterhouses and meat processing plants.

    African Americans were dying in our cities, Hispanics were dying in meat packing plants, the elderly of all races were dying in nursing homes.

    But the death toll among working age affluent white people (who could telecommute and/or were less likely to be obese, have hypertension, or struggle with diabetes) was relatively low.

    It took a lot of pressure off Trump and his Republicans. They could now politicize the virus, and, if they did it right, they could do so publicly with a “wink” to their white supremacist base. And if they could get the economy back to cranking along within the next few months, they might be able to pull the 2020 election out of the bag.

    As an “expert” member of Jared Kushner’s team of young, unqualified volunteers supervising the administration’s PPE response noted to Vanity Fair’s Katherine Eban:

    “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy.”

    It was, after all, exclusively Blue States that were then hit hard by the virus: Washington, New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. And there was an election coming in just a few months.

    At year’s end, the United States was ranked 5th worst in the world in our response (behind Brazil, Mexico, Colombia and Iran); we had about 20% of the world’s Covid deaths, but only 4.5% of the world’s population.

    The lasting legacy of Trump’s changes in policy and encouraging Covid skepticism is that today we’re the world’s worst in terms of death and sickness, period. He’d thrown his unqualified slumlord son-in-law Jared Kushner at something even a professional would’ve found the challenge of a lifetime. And then manipulated it to help him in the upcoming 2020 election.

    More people have died of Covid in America, as a percentage or in absolute terms, than any other developed country in the world.

    Why? Because Trump and his Republican enablers and co-conspirators were just fine with getting the economy back on track to win an election over the bodies of dead Black and Hispanic people, particularly when they could blame it on Democratic Blue-state governors.

    Former Attorney General Kennedy’s grandson Max Kennedy Jr, 26, was one of the administration’s volunteers, who blew the whistle to Congress on Kushner and Trump. As Jane Mayer wrote for The New Yorker:

    “Kennedy was disgusted to see that the political appointees who supervised him were hailing Trump as ‘a marketing genius,’ because, Kennedy said they’d told him, ‘he personally came up with the strategy of blaming the [Blue] states.’”

    As that report released from the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus reported just a few months ago:

    “In the first half of 2020, African Americans and Latinos had death rates from coronavirus that far outweighed those of whites. While 62% of the population age 45-54 in 2020 was white, this population accounted for only 22% of coronavirus deaths in that age range. …
    “Disparities were even more pronounced in some states such as Louisiana, where where in April 2020, African Americans represented 70% of coronavirus deaths despite being only one third of the state’s population.”

    And once Trump and Kushner put that death-based reelection strategy into place in April, it became politically impossible to back away from it, even as more and more Red state white people became infected.

    As Trump told Dr. Deborah Birx in mid-April and she reported in her book Silent Invasion: The Untold Story…:

    “‘We will never shut down the country again. Never.’ His pupils hardened into points of anger… I felt the blood drain from my face, and I shivered slightly.”

    Trump’s change — from a policy of prevention to a policy of “herd immunity” once he realized on April 7, 2020 that healthy white people were largely immune from death by the coronavirus — put the US on-course to have the worst Covid death rate in the world.

    That was the day everything changed because Trump and Kushner were willing to let Black and Hispanic people die on a gamble they could still put the economy back together fast enough to win the 2020 election.

    Over a million Americans have died so far, more than any other nation. Multiple studies show that up to 500,000 of those deaths wouldn’t have happened if Trump had just promoted masks and lock-downs through the year before the vaccine was available and, since then, if he had condemned the anti-vax movement that emerged in the last months of his presidency.

    But he didn’t do either. All because he knew the virus disproportionately killed Black and Brown people and he was willing to do anything to win the election.

    And sure enough, as Congress reported last December, a massive number of those deaths were — as a clear result of Trump’s policy — among Black and Hispanic people.

    If that’s not racial mass slaughter, aka genocide at a Serbian war crimes level, then the phrase has lost much of its meaning.

    Jack Smith: are you listening?



    https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/trump-kushner-response/
     
    1. darkride
      The only issue I see here... and I admit I haven't read all of the above... Is that - dumb-ass Trump followers who didn't believe in immunisation, who wouldn't wear masks, etc, were surely dying just as fast as African Americans?

      Has there been any studies into long term economical damage of COVID on the USA?
       
      darkride, Jul 14, 2023
    2. crhurricane
      Well long term studies, as we are three years in, is just not possible, unless you consider 100 days long term.
       
      crhurricane, Jul 16, 2023
  18. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Minor problem with stumblers latest editorial.

    More Americans died of covid during the Biden administration than during the trump administration.

    And Biden had the vaccine(s).

    And Biden spent more than Trump because of covid.

    And biden has a documented track record as a racist.

    Trumps record as a racist is all based on leftist propaganda.
     
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  19. silkythighs

    silkythighs Porn Star

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    Nice try, but no cigar. Biden inherited covid-19 after Trump dragged his feet and called covid a democrat hoax. Trump said it would miraculously disappear in the summer. Trump refused to take the pandemic seriously, derided mask wearers and encouraged the anti vaxxer crowd. While repuke propagandists like Carlson spread covid vaccine lies.

    Just the usual trumptard hypocrisy on full display.
     
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    1. darkride
      Trump should have been sued by all the families of the people that died following his deadly advice.
       
      darkride, Jul 15, 2023
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    2. shootersa
      Actually, he was.
      $1T Class Action Lawsuit Alleges Trump Caused COVID Deaths - Top Class Actions
      Mr. Thomas is a convicted murderer who filed a $1 TRILLION class action law suit alleging Trump is accountable for excess Covid deaths. Since it was filed in 2021 there has been zero action on it. This would be Mr. Thomas's 6th class action civil suit. He has yet to be successful.

      More law suits were filed over the Biden administration's orders relative to mandatory testing, vaccination, and business closings, all of which have pretty much been settled or withdrawn cause, you know, no covid emergency
      COVID-19-Related Class Actions: Where Are They Now? (natlawreview.com)
       
      shootersa, Jul 15, 2023
    3. toniter
      I don't see where Thomas is a convicted murderer. What I do see, is that he's representing himself, is not an attorney, wrote the lawsuit himself, and is hardly a serious example to post here. Not long ago, on another thread, you cited a mass murder by knife...from southern Argentina, as an example that mass killings (in the US) need not be confined to guns. Keep them rolling in.
       
      toniter, Jul 15, 2023
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  20. toniter

    toniter No Limits

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    Are you joking? By the time Biden got the reins, Trump had let the pandemic get totally out of control. Thousands were dying every day, thanks to trump's inaction.

    Great. But trump followers refused en masse to take the vaccine. That thinned out his herd somewhat.

    There's the truth you finally admit to. Because of covid, Biden spent what was necessary to lessen the anguish and pain caused by covid. Trump turned his back and stuck his head in the sand. download-1.jpg
     
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    1. darkride
      Wow, where'd you get that picture of [insert every Republican-Trump-ass-lover here]?
       
      darkride, Jul 25, 2023
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