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  1. shootersa

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    Well, when they get to 41 investigations and 8 years come back.
     
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    LOL! Numbers mean nothing.

    They investigated Hilary 11 separate times over Benghazi, and still got nothing.

    It would be interesting if you could actually enumerate these 41 investigations, one by one, I bet you can't.
     
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      More meaningless trolling from pinky.
       
      shootersa, Jun 2, 2023
    3. anon_de_plume
      That you think of pink while thinking of me has me concerned...
       
      anon_de_plume, Jun 2, 2023
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    4. anon_de_plume
      For you...
       
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    5. shootersa
      Go ahead.
      You can have the last word.
      It seems to calm you.
       
      shootersa, Jun 2, 2023
    6. stumbler
      That is another thing you say over and over again when you are the one who got the last word. Its another amusing thing to watch.
       
      stumbler, Jun 5, 2023
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    And remember he's the one that couldn't tell the difference between civil and criminal when the Trump organization was convicted of criminal tax fraud.
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      Bu... Bu.... But that wasn't Trump...
       
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    2. shootersa
      Hey stumbler, you find that juvenile in court without representation yet?
       
      shootersa, Jun 1, 2023
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    Senate Hearing Bursts Into Laughter After GOP Senator Declares ‘I Don’t Want Reality’ During Heated Exchange
    By Alex GriffingMay 31st, 2023, 1:32 pm

    Republican Senator Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) elicited laughs from the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee hearing room when he told a witness on Wednesday, “I don’t want reality” — while seeking answers to his questions about education.

    The odd exchange took place during a hearing on child care, in which Mullin brought up a children’s book about race and pressed each witness on whether that book or the lyrics to “Jesus Loves Me” should be taught in schools.

    Mullin began his line of questioning by attacking the committee’s chairman, Sen. Bernie Sanders (VT-I).


    Mullin noted the committee is run by a “self-proclaimed socialist.”

    “I’m not just calling you that chairman, you openly say that you’re a socialist in your book, Outsider in the House. The chairman says Bill Clinton is a moderate Democrat. I’m a Democrat socialist,” Mullin continued, warning a socialist has oversight of the U.S. education system.

    “That’s over our education system. I have a book here, here in front of me called Our Skin,” Mullin continued, adding:

    And I’m going to read exactly what this book says. You guys might find it interesting. ‘A long time ago, way before you were born, a group of white people made up an idea called race. They sorted people by skin color and said that white people were better, smarter, prettier, and they deserved more than everybody else.’ This would be taught if we socialize our pre-K system, this would be.

    “Do you disagree with that? Findings in the book,” Sanders interjected.

    “One thousand percent. How about we teach ‘Jesus Loves Me?’ How about, how about this? And teaching Jesus loves and loves the little children. The lyrics go ‘red and yellow, black and white. They’re all precious in our sight.’ Now, which one would you think would be better? I’ll ask everybody on the panel. Which is better to teach?” Mullin replied.

    “This, that is a story that was made up to teach our kids, three-year-olds, who have no idea what race is,” he continued, holding up the book.

    “Now all of a sudden is being taught that white people said this as a truth. Someone prove to me that this is a truth that white people developed race, that white people developed that, that all of a sudden that was our word that we developed,” Mullin continued,” adding:

    By the way, I’m Cherokee Native American. I think we have experienced a little bit of racism before in my life. Chairman. So I ask everybody on the panel which one is better to teach this or the ‘Jesus Loves Me’ lyrics. Ma’am, I’ll start here. Just tell me which one I don’t have time for.

    “But I’ll tell you, Senator Mullin, is that what children in these early years develop their identity. It’s important that our classrooms…” replied one of the witnesses as Mullin interrupted.

    “I’m just asking which one is better?” Mullin demanded.

    “Let her answer the question, please,” Sanders insisted.

    “My question is this,” Mullin shot back.

    “She will answer as she sees fit,” Sanders replied.


    Mullin and the witness then spoke over each other as Mullin continued to demand to know only whether “Jesus Loves Me” or Our Skin should be taught.

    “If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s fine. Let’s move on down the panel. Which one is better to be taught? This book or the ‘Jesus Loves Me’ lyrics that say everybody’s skin doesn’t matter. They’re all precious in his sight,” Mullin continued.

    “I think it’s important to teach that all children are seen and valued for who they are, and that’s…” replied another witness before Mullin cut her off.

    “But why do you teach this? Don’t you think that other people are saying that white kids are to blame? It’s exactly what they’re going to teach, is exactly what it is, ma’am,” Mullin shot back.

    “I disagree. First, it is important that we teach Jesus and Jesus is what we teach,” replied Cheryl Morman – President of the Virginia Alliance for Family Child Care Associations.

    “So which one is better?” Mullin demanded.

    Morman replied, “But reality is…”

    Mullin cut her off, “Do you think this.”

    “Could she answer the question, please?” Sanders then interjected.

    “I don’t want reality. I’m asking the question which one is better?” Mullin demanded as the hearing room erupted in laughter.

    “Got it on tape,” another senator could be heard saying on the microphone.

    “Misspoke,” Mullin conceded.


    “So what I’m saying is, which one is which? Which one is better to be taught?” Mullin demanded yet again.

    “Mr. Chairman, is it this, or is it or is it the Jesus?” he continued.

    Mullin and Sanders then debated back and forth before agreeing for Miss Morman to answer the question.
    “As I stated, Jesus is always first,” Morman said.

    “Absolutely. I agree with that,” Mullin declared.

    Mullin then gave a closing statement in which he quoted “socialist-communist” Joseph Stalin to warn against a socialist takeover of U.S. education.

    Watch the full clip above via C-SPAN.


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    1. anon_de_plume
      Republicans have perfected victimhood!
       
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  5. stumbler

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    Chuck Grassley admits GOP doesn't care if accusations against 'Vice President Biden' are true

    Travis Gettys
    June 1, 2023, 12:10 PM ET


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    Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) called for the FBI to turn over a document to the House Oversight Committee that Republicans believe raises questions about President Joe Biden and his family.

    Oversight Committee chairman James Comer (R-KY) said the panel was moving forward with holding FBI director Chris Wray in contempt of Congress for withholding the document, which he says contains evidence of "an alleged criminal scheme," although lawmakers have been cleared to review the document at the bureau's offices.

    "Well, it's not good enough for me," Grassley told Fox News. "We asked for the document a month ago, it has been subpoenaed. We're doing the constitutional job of oversight. I have read that document. If he would read it and it is an unclassified document, he admits it exists and we aren't interested in whether or not the accusations against vice president Biden are accurate or not. We are responsible for making sure the FBI does its job, and that's what we want to know."

    Grassley declined to characterize the findings but said Republicans would make them public once it was delivered to them, and he dismissed Wray's concerns about releasing the document.

    "If he would read it, he would know that all the excuses he is giving us that he wants to protect sources, and that's important to protect sources, but that's not an issue with this document the way I read it," Grassley said. "He ought to come forth. They've got to produce this document. They are up against what the Durham report has said about the shortcomings and political bias of the FBI this is just one more example of them not being forthcoming to the public because the public's business ought to be public. and there is no reason for an unclassified document to be held in secret."

    Grassley stopped short of characterizing the evidence as "damning," but said it suggests wrongdoing.

    "Let's put it this way, there's accusations in it," he said. "But it's not for me to make a judgment about whether these accusations are accurate or not, it's up to my job to make sure the FBI is doing their job, and that's what this is all about as far as I'm concerned. Public's business ought to be public."

    https://www.rawstory.com/chuck-grassley-hunter-biden/
     
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    White House Savages Comer Investigations as ‘Fact-Free Politically-Motivated Goose Chase’ For ‘Fox News Spotlight’
    By Alex GriffingMay 31st, 2023, 5:59 pm
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    Ian Sams, the Biden White House spokesperson for oversight and investigations, savaged House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-KY) on Wednesday and dismissed “his so-called ‘investigations’” as mere “political stunts.”

    Sams’s statement came in response to the latest phase of Comer’s ongoing battle with FBI Director Christopher Wray, who the Kentucky Republican threatened to charge with contempt last week.


    Wray and Comer spoke on the phone Wednesday and Wray reportedly told Comer he could “view the FD-1023 document, allegedly containing Biden bribery allegations, in person at FBI HQ,” reported Punchbowl’s Max Cohen. Comer had subpoenaed the document earlier in the month and had vowed to hold Wray in contempt if it was not turned over by Tuesday.

    Comer released his own statement on Wednesday: “On my call with FBI Director Wray, the FBI finally confirmed the existence of the FD-1023 form alleging then-VP Joe Biden engaged in a criminal bribery scheme.”





    “Anything short of producing these documents to @GOPoversight is not in compliance with my subpoena,” he concluded and noted in additional text that he “will begin contempt of Congress proceedings” if the document is not handed over.

    Sams lit into Comer further, declaring, “This silly charade by Chairman Comer is yet another reminder that his so-called ‘investigations’ are political stunts not meant to get information but to spread thin innuendo and falsehoods to attack the President.”

    “He has already admitted this isn’t about uncovering facts but about trying to hurt the President’s poll numbers, so the only question left is how long he will waste time, energy, and taxpayer dollars to support a fact-free politically- motivated goose chase simply to get media attention and the Fox News spotlight,” Sams concluded.


    Comer, who is a very frequent guest on Fox News, kicked a firestorm of criticism on Fox & Friends First when he was asked if he believed his investigations had “moved the needle.” While the Fox host was referring to media coverage, Comer replied, “Absolutely. Absolutely. There’s no question. You look at the polling and right now Donald Trump is seven points ahead of Joe Biden and trending upward. Joe Biden is trending downward.”

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/white...motivated-goose-chase-for-fox-news-spotlight/
     
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    Shooter is reminded of the despicable claims of a "smoking gun" on Trump.

    We never even learned the supposed nature of Shumer's smoking gun and now know it was all bullshit.

    At least we now know that the laptop is real and so is the memo detailing Hunter's corruption.

    Now, if we could just get someone .... anyone .... at the FBI and DOJ to quit playing politics and start doing their jobs.
     
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      He provided proof?
      REALLY??
      Well, lets see his proof!
       
      shootersa, Jun 5, 2023
    4. stumbler
      For what? The about a dozen or more times you have demanded the proof and I provided it? Only to have you keep telling this illusion of truth over and over and over and over again?
       
      stumbler, Jun 5, 2023
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    Well sure this makes sense just ask any ex super cop around here. The police are investigating someone on reasonable suspicion they committed crimes. So before any charges are even filed some of the suspect's friends show up at the police station and demand the police turn over everything about the investigation of their friend to them. And so the police turn over everything they have to them. Yeah sure that happens all the time.


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    Jordan, GOP ask DOJ to turn over details on FBI’s role in Trump investigation
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    House Republicans are asking the Justice Department (DOJ) to turn over information about special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into Donald Trump, including details on whether any FBI employees on the case have investigated the former president.

    The letter, sent to Attorney General Merrick Garland, is an early show of how the powerful House Judiciary Committee plans to leverage a May report from special counsel John Durham detailing issues with the FBI’s early work investigating Trump campaign ties to Russia.

    Complaining of “the institutional rot that pervades the FBI,” Jordan seeks a breakdown of the number of FBI personnel working on the case, including whether any have previously investigated Trump.

    The letter also asks whether Smith’s investigation relies on any information gathered by the bureau in the period ahead of Durham’s appointment.


    “The extent of the FBI’s bias and reckless disregard for the truth, which Special Counsel Durham laid out in painstaking detail, is nothing short of scandalous. The FBI has tried to dismiss the report’s findings by claiming to have ‘already implemented dozens of corrective actions’ to prevent similar misconduct in the future,” Jordan wrote in the letter.

    “The FBI’s window dressing is not enough. The Special Counsel’s report serves as a stark reminder of the need for more accountability and reforms within the FBI.”

    While Durham was highly critical of the FBI in his final 305-page report, his nearly four-year investigation yielded little new information or results in court.

    Two individuals — Igor Danchenko and Michael Sussmann — were charged with lying to the FBI and found not guilty, and a third individual pleaded guilty to doctoring an email about a surveillance warrant.

    The probe of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation analyzed a number of the issues with the investigation that have previously been widely covered by the media. That includes the FBI’s inability to corroborate any of the Steele dossier, which contained a series of salacious allegations about Trump and his possible ties to Russia and which was used as the basis for securing a warrant to spy on campaign adviser Carter Page.

    “The objective facts show that the FBI’s handling of important aspects of the Crossfire Hurricane matter were seriously deficient,” Durham wrote, arguing that the bureau relied on “raw, unanalyzed, and uncorroborated intelligence.”

    The FBI said last month the agency has “already implemented dozens of corrective actions.”

    “Had those reforms been in place in 2016, the missteps identified in the report could have been prevented,” the bureau said following the release of the report.

    Durham’s report does not recommend new charges or include any policy recommendations, but its conclusion that the FBI did not have sufficient information to open the case has been a boon to GOP leadership that have accused the bureau of targeting conservatives.

    Jordan has invited Durham to speak with the committee later this month, while his Friday letter also asks the DOJ for a briefing with Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco about Durham’s report.

    The Hill has reached out to the DOJ and the FBI for comment.

    The letter points to a new authority included in congressional rules that gave them the power to seek information about ongoing criminal investigations — an addition that was accompanied by the formation of a subcommittee devoted to probing the “weaponization” of the federal government.

    Smith’s investigation has appeared to pick up intensity in recent weeks, fueling speculation that the probe is concluding and that Trump could soon face charges for his role in both Jan. 6 and the mishandling of classified records at Mar-a-Lago.


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/jordan-gop-ask-justice-turn-140546554.html
     
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    We should believe and accept as gospel brought down from the mount engraved on stone tablets anything an American hating propaganda peddler posts on this forum.

    Note to despicables; that was sarcasm from Shooter
     
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    Documents GOP wants from FBI may have roots in Rudy Giuliani's Ukraine conspiracy: reports

    Sarah K. Burris
    June 1, 2023, 4:25 PM ET


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    Rudy Giuliani could be the source of a document the House Oversight Committee wants the FBI to hand over, reports said Thursday.

    Committee Chairman James Comer (R-KY) and Senate Oversight ranking member Chuck Grassley (R-IA) spoke on the phone with FBI Director Christopher Wray on Wednesday about the ongoing efforts to obtain information from him about a $5 million bribe they suspect was paid to President Joe Biden.

    Raw Story has previously reported that Comer and Grassley are seeking any information the FBI has containing the words "Biden" and "$5 million." They insist that there are documents, though the FBI has been reluctant to hand anything over.

    CBS News reported Thursday that Comer said in a statement: "FBI Director Wray confirmed the existence of the FD-1023 form alleging then-Vice President Biden engaged in a criminal bribery scheme with a foreign national."

    The FBI generally doesn't turn over raw intelligence like this. An FD-1023 is nothing more than a form that an FBI agent uses when they're taking a statement from someone giving them information. It suggests the source with information about Biden called someone at the DOJ or FBI, someone wrote down the report, and it would be filed as something to investigate.

    According to the CNN report, that interview "has origins in a tranche of documents that Rudy Giuliani provided to the Justice Department in 2020, people briefed on the matter said."

    Writing his autobiography, former Attorney General Bill Barr had blamed Giuliani, saying he was the "man who helped President Trump get himself impeached—not once but, as it turned out, twice."

    "I’d worried that Giuliani was an unguided missile, and Ukraine, a morass of misinformation," Barr also wrote. "I was determined to steer the department clear of them as best I could and, if we had to deal with them at all, do so with the utmost caution."

    Barr later wrote that during the first Trump impeachment, "Giuliani embarked on yet another round of grandstanding. He went about claiming he had compiled significant evidence relating to the Bidens that he wanted to present to the Justice Department. While anyone is free to present evidence to the DOJ, the fact Giuliani was making such a public display obviously made his motives suspect."

    He said that Giuliani tried a tactic of "giving just enough evidence to law enforcement to have some allegation investigated, then claiming one’s adversary was 'being investigated.'"

    According to the FBI, the only information that appears to be available is the FD-1023. So, Comer and Grassley could obtain the document and use it to say the FBI had allegations they were investigating into a Biden bribery claim. The FBI has been reluctant to play ball.

    TIME Magazine reported in June 2021 that Russian foreign agents called Giuliani "useful" to undermine the 2020 election.

    Andriy Derkach, who was indicted in Dec. 2022 as an active Russian agent, confessed that in the fall of 2019, "he gained access to Trump's inner circle through Rudy Giuliani, the President's personal lawyer. He then provided Giuliani with documents purporting to show that Joe Biden and his family were involved in corruption.

    "After their first meeting, Derkach even posted a photo of himself with Giuliani on Facebook, mugging for the camera as they exchanged a stack of documents. In the months before Election Day, he released a series of secret recordings of Biden pressuring top Ukrainian officials to fight corruption. The source of those tapes remains a mystery to this day."

    The report also noted that Grassley, along with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI)," used some of Giuliani's material in their investigation of the Biden family." The report never made it clear whether the information was given to them by Giuliani or directly from Derkach, but a congressional watchdog group requested information on the matter the year after.

    Grassley told Fox on Thursday that he didn't care if the accusations against Biden were true or false.

    Christopher Dunham, acting assistant director for the Bureau's Office of Congressional Affairs, penned a letter May 10 that the FBI avoids "revealing information — including unverified or incomplete information — that could harm investigations, prejudice prosecutions or judicial proceedings, unfairly violate privacy or reputational interests, or create misimpressions in the public. Often, even confirming the fact of the existence (or nonexistence) of an investigation or a particular piece of investigative information can risk these serious harms."

    https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-republican-conspiracy-biden/
     
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    So fine.
    Lets see it, what say?
     
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      Hey stumbler, should the Italy "evidence" be kept secret like the FBI memo and the January 6 evidence?
      If not, why not, if yes, why?
      At least one page, single spaced, both sides. Cite sources and authorities, the bibliography will not count towards the two page minimum.
      Typed.
      Turn it in by Monday it will count for 20% of your grade.
       
      shootersa, Jun 5, 2023
    3. stumbler
      Are you going to agree to follow the same rules? If so say so right here and I will create a thread to answer your questions and then you answer mine. Agreed? Go on the record right here.
       
      stumbler, Jun 5, 2023
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      More diversions and games. You can start a new thread or do whatever makes your little heart soar.
      Or you can just answer right here and now; should the "evidence" from Italy be revealed alongside the FBI"S Biden bribery memo and the January 6 evidence or not?

      But as far as agreeing to your stupid rules, we both know that you only follow them when it's to your advantage and when you lose you stamp your feet and claim victory. Remember?
      Pigeons
      Chess
      So no, no rules, bring it or move on.
      Makes no difference to Shooter.
       
      shootersa, Jun 5, 2023
    5. stumbler
      I knew you would not have the guts to actually debate anything or even answer simple straight forward questions. But I wanted to get that on the record again for everyone to see. Again.
       
      stumbler, Jun 5, 2023
    6. shootersa
      Attaboy!

      So, simple yes or no; should we publicize the Italy thingy at the same time as the FBI thingy and Hunter's laptop?
       
      shootersa, Jun 5, 2023
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    Fox News Anchor Accuses House Republican of Dodging in Testy Showdown on Biden Probe: You’re ‘Squirming Around My Questions’
    By Ken MeyerJun 4th, 2023, 4:29 pm

    Fox News’ Arthel Neville called out Congressman Pat Fallon (R-TX) for sidestepping her questions on the House Oversight committee’s investigation into President Joe Biden.

    Neville spoke with Fallon on Sunday as House Oversight Committee leaders prepare to review an internal law enforcement document pertaining to their investigation into Biden and his family. Committee Chairman James Comer (R-KY) and Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) subpoenaed the FBI for access to the FD-1023 form. Both have already admitted to having seen the document and claim it holds allegations that Biden (as vice president) engaged in a criminal exchange of money with a foreign national for a policy decision. The allegations in the document are uncorroborated and the source’s identity is expected to be redacted.

    Fallon said that the committee will be examining the document for not only its contents, but also, to scrutinize whether the FBI did its utmost to investigate the allegations therein. While the document only contains allegations — and therefore, can neither prove nor disprove the accusations it holds — Neville asked Fallon if the 1023 form will clear President Biden’s name.


    “Will that exonerate then-Vice President Biden?” Neville asked.

    “Oh no. Not at all,” Fallon answered. “It is just one document. It’s one claim. There are so many others. We’re going where the evidence leads us.”

    After Fallon accused the Biden family of stonewalling investigations into their business dealings, Neville asked him if he finds the FBI and its sources “credible,” whether it’s investigating Biden or Donald Trump.

    “Of course, you hope so,” said Fallon. “But you also don’t want to see a two-tiered justice system where one party is protected, and the other one is exposed and thrown under the bus, if you will.”


    Neville, in response, told the congressman “you’re doing a really good job of sort of squirming around my questions.”

    “What I see you setting up, quite frankly, is that if this document doesn’t give you the evidence that you’re looking for, then you’re going to keep digging. Even if it does, you’re going to keep digging. So it seems like no matter what is in this document, no matter what the FBI does or doesn’t do, they’re political. So it just is going to have this malaise of just confusion that will keep going and going and going. And I think that the American public would like to get some firm answers and not to have this process. If you’re saying the FBI is politicized, let’s not even politicize the process.”

    Fallon insisted the committee will be “fair,” expressing hope that FBI Director Chris Wray would be able to prove the bureau examined the allegations.


    “If they have done that for this particular instance,” he said, “I’ll be more than happy to say the FBI did their due diligence on this FD-1023 form.”

    Watch above via Fox News.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-new...en-probe-youre-squirming-around-my-questions/

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    Grassley is about as bad as Feinstein mentally. He actually accidentally told two truths in this interview. One he has seen the document they are demanding from the FBI. And two it does not incriminate President Biden.



    'These people keep humiliating themselves': Morning Joe flattens the GOP's floundering Biden probes

    Tom Boggioni
    June 5, 2023, 8:33 AM ET


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    On Monday morning, MSNBC "Morning Joe" host Joe Scarborough dumped all over the Republicans leading the investigations into Joe Biden's family and singled out Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) for admitting her doesn't care if there was criminal activity or not.

    That set off Scarborough.

    "That's just -- that's again, Michael Kinsley's definition of a gaffe where somebody in Washington accidentally tells the truth," Scarborough told his panel.

    "I mean, we have that time and time again whether it's the Durham investigation, whether it's the Comer investigation, these people keep humiliating themselves," he continued before adding, "And it's left to the Wall Street Journal editorial page to try to clean it up for them, but even they're saying there's no smoking gun."


    IN OTHER NEWS: 'Cowards': Soledad O'Brien rips former CNN colleagues for silence as Chris Licht wrecks the network

    That led panelist Katty Kay to chime in, "Yeah. Coming out on top of the committee chair said this was good for ratings, you wonder what the impetus is."

    "Mika [Brzezinski] is right, when you look at the polling heading into the 2022 midterm elections, the idea of investigating the Biden family didn't rank anywhere," she added, "I literally didn't see it anywhere in the top 10 polling issues that people were concerned about, and yet it seems to be something that certain members of Congress and the Republican party are very focused on. And obviously, you know, if crimes are being committed they should be investigated and found. But the Durham report found that there wasn't the smoking gun that certainly Donald Trump had been hoping for."

    Watch the video below or at this link.


     
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    House Oversight Committee leaders briefed by the FBI on the details of a tip into potential wrongdoing by President Biden disagreed on basic conclusions, including whether it’s part of an ongoing probe.

    Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) vowed to continue with his plans to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt for failing to physically turn over the document lawmakers reviewed alongside agents.

    Comer said the tip, memorialized in a document he subpoenaed from the FBI, is part of an ongoing investigation and alleges Biden may have accepted a bribe.

    “Given the severity and complexity of the allegations contained within this record, Congress must investigate further,” he said after the Monday briefing.


    “This is only the beginning. It appears this investigation is part of an ongoing investigation, which I assume is in Delaware.”

    Rep. Jamie Raskin (Md.) the top Democrat on the panel, on the other hand, said the FBI decided not to advance its initial investigation into the matter, determining the second-hand information did not warrant follow up by the group tasked with assessing it, led by then-U.S. Attorney for Pennsylvania Scott Brady.

    “What we’re talking about here is a confidential human source reporting a conversation with someone else. So we’re talking about is second hand hearsay. And they did whatever investigative due diligence was called for in that assessment period, and they found no reason to escalate it from an assessment to a so-called preliminary investigation,” Raskin said.

    “FBI prosecutorial protocol is whether there are articulable facts giving rise to suspicion of criminal activity. So they apparently decided there was not, and they called an end to the investigation.”

    Comer said the panel will meet Thursday to vote on whether to hold Wray in contempt of Congress because “the FBI again refused to hand over the unclassified record to the custody of the House Oversight Committee.”

    Comer issued a subpoena last month compelling Wray to produce any FD-1023 forms — records of interactions with confidential sources — from June 2020 that contain the word “Biden.”

    He has claimed the form contains information related to “an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions.”

    Both Comer and Raskin agreed that the information came from a highly credible paid source the FBI has relied on for years.

    But the two men otherwise left with remarkably different impressions of the briefing.

    “All I know is there’s an ongoing investigation. They confirm there’s an ongoing investigation using this information. I assume that ongoing investigation is in Delaware. I don’t know that. But I assume that,” Comer said.

    When asked by The Hill whether he had information to support that claim, Comer responded, “I assume it’s Delaware. I’ll put it like that.”

    Raskin seemed surprised by Comer’s claim the investigation is ongoing.

    “Not only were there no criminal charges, there was no escalation of the FBI investigation,” Raskin said.

    “All I will tell you is that there was a complete Department of Justice, U.S. attorney and FBI team that was set up to investigate the allegations that surfaced after Rudy Giuliani was making particular allegations.”


    The probe into the vague allegation against Biden appears to be intertwined with Comer’s probe into overseas business dealings by the president’s family members, including his son Hunter Biden and brother James Biden, as well as their associates.

    “The claims made in the document are consistent with what we found and disclosed to you all in Romania,” Comer said, referring to financial records that the committee’s Republicans reported in an interim memo on the Biden family business dealings last month. “It suggests a pattern of bribery where payments would be made through shell accounts and multiple banks. There’s a term for that, it’s called money laundering.”

    House Oversight Committee Republicans have gained access to suspicious activity reports generated by banks that they say show a paper of more than $10 million that flowed from foreign entities to companies associated with the Biden family and their associates. Those suspicious activity reports do not necessarily mean any illegal transactions occurred.

    Raskin on Monday also pushed back against Comer’s plans to hold Wray in contempt, something he said would mark the first time in history such a motion has been brought against an FBI director.

    “The document, like all documents relating to all confidential human sources, is one that should not be released publicly because it could endanger the confidential human source and then undermine our whole law enforcement system that the FBI has put into place,” he said.


    Raskin called releasing the document — something Comer has said he is considering — “totally out of bounds.”

    “We have the FBI, which came over to us, brought the very document we’re looking for, and gave even the majority, I think, 90 or 95 percent of what was being asked for, which was the document and all kinds of surrounding answers to questions about the document. Now, it seems like the goalpost has shifted a little bit.”



    https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-oversight-leaders-clash-viewing-185832270.html
     
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    So, Bill Barr was the one that deemed this paper to not be credible, but Comer still wants to hold Wrey in contempt? Despite it also still being part of an ongoing investigation?

    Republicans don't respect law enforcement!
     
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    Boy the despicables are twirling and puking all over the FBI memo thingy.

    It doesn't much matter what the memo says, its value or its heritage. Its been subpoenaed and Wray can ignore that subpoena at his own risk.

    He might ask Bannon about the possible consequences of refusing a subpoena.

    Despicables would do well to recall their "outrage" at deplorables refusing subpoenas and their glee at Bannon being called to task.

    Karmas a bitch, eh?
     
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      This is just so hilarious. You spent all Trump's years in office defending him and his administration ignoring subpoenas and declaring executive privilege gong clear back to Trump's campaign with people that never even worked for the government.

      And what makes it even funnier is you defending people ignoring the J6 committee subpoenas.

      That's not the sun glaring out there this morning. Its you hypocrisy.
       
      stumbler, Jun 6, 2023
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    So tell us why Wray must release information from an active investigation? Comer has already seen it! What's the point of actually making it public?
     
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      Pigeon
      Chess
       
      shootersa, Jun 7, 2023
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      Another thing we see all the time is when @shootersa gets to "pigeons chess" he is in way over his head and has lost the argument. Which is always easy to prove.

      Such as Subpoenas are defied all the time. It was the method of operation for Trump and his administration. And then the person or agency who issued the Subpoenas can take the person or agency they Subpoenaed to court. Where the Subpoenaed person can challenge the validity of the Subpoena and often win. But if not the court will order them to comply. And then if they refuse they can end up in jail. But especially in cases of Congress Subpoenaing the executive branch the executive branch often wins. And no matter how it comes out the process usually takes years.
       
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      And here is another way to prove it. Hey @shootersa was Trump Subpoenaed to hand over all the documents he stole to the FBI? Did he do that? And if not by YOUR standard doesn't Trump belong in jail?
       
      stumbler, Jun 7, 2023
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      Then once again.

      Hey @shootersa if the treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans vote to hold Wray in contempt what happens then? What is the procedure?

      And you will note @shootersa will not answer those simple straightforward questions.
       
      stumbler, Jun 7, 2023
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      You can always tell the moments when shooters alien brain shuts down. He somehow thinks he's a pigeon, or maybe it's a "rat cum alis" (it sounds classy)! Next, hell say something like "at least he's got one" (forever the mind-numbing, er I mean, mind-bending sophic abilities)... Or maybe the one-trick space alien will say something about getting my money back from the schools I've attended, or slapping my teachers with a lawsuit, or how about the doctor that delivered me and suing him for dropping me on my head as he was attempting to abort me just after I was born... Or maybe it's God we should slap because he set everything in motion...

      Or maybe his new classic of telling me I can have the last word?

      What's it going to be?
       
      anon_de_plume, Jun 7, 2023
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    This is just fucking hilarious. And its so ridiculous I think even treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican low information voters can see through it. Who in the fuck do these traitors think they are?


    Jim Jordan demands 'unredacted' memo detailing scope of Jack Smith's Trump probes

    Matthew Chapman
    June 6, 2023, 9:46 AM ET


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    Congressman Jim Jordan speaking with attendees at the 2021 AmericaFest. (Gage Skidmore/Flickr)


    House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH) sent a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland on Tuesday, demanding an "unredacted copy" of the Justice Department appointment memoradum authorizing special counsel Jack Smith's investigations of former President Donald Trump.

    Smith is overseeing two investigations that touch on the former president: the ongoing federal probe into the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, and the unauthorized retention of classified documents at Trump's Mar-a-Lago country club, which sources say is wrapping up with a charging decision imminent.

    "The Committee on the Judiciary has jurisdiction to oversee the activities of the Jusrice Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation," the letter concluded.

    This comes after Jordan, who has been trying to investigate every law enforcement action that touches Trump, sent another letter to Garland last week, demanding specific details of Smith's investigation.

    IN OTHER NEWS: Trump busted for 'contradicting reality' by a Fox News fact check

    Jordan has similarly targeted Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who recently indicted Trump on charges of business fraud stemming from his allegedly falsified $130,000 hush payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels. Jordan has claimed he has jurisdiction over that probe because of a few thousand dollars worth of congressional grants that went to Bragg's office. Bragg responded by suing to quash his subpoena, arguing an improper attempt to intimidate his office. Jordan and Bragg ultimately came to an agreement on the scope of the House's investigation.

    Earlier this week, lawyers representing Trump met with Smith, a sign that the investigation is nearing its conclusion and that charges for the former president are on the table.



    https://www.rawstory.com/jack-smith-jim-jordan/
     
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    Fucking lies.
    Show once when Shooter defended anyone refusing to respond to a subpoena.
    He has not. He has remained silent or poked fun at the twirling. He has never defended anyone refusing a subpoena.
    Your braying about Trump et al ignoring subpoenas now rings so false in the face of Wray resisting the subpoena.
    You're losing your right to be triggered by anyone refusing a subpoena. Think about it.

    This nations "top cop" refusing to respond to a subpoena.
    The pundits making all manner of excuse for him, even playing the whataboutism card, to divert the issue.
    Wray should have very little skin in this game. If he wasn't playing politics he'd say "nothing in the memo, no reason not to release it, and he'd give the damned thing to the committee in response to the subpoena. And if it was nothing, that would be the end of it, you know, after the usual political braying.
    If he thought the subpoena was somehow flawed he'd be in court trying to have it quashed. He hasn't. He's tried to negotiate. And he's failed. And in the process turned a simple administrative matter into a major political issue. Or let Comer turn it into a political hot Potatoe, which is the same thing.

    Wray is playing politics. He's either defending Biden, defending the FBI'S handling of a potentially administration ending scandal, or pandering to his president.

    Doesn't matter what the reason.
    Despicables and their pundits are about to be reminded that
    1) The blowback from a coverup is always worse than the original sin.
    2) Karma, especially in a post "Bannon prison" world, is a bitch.
     
    1. stumbler
      If i go back and find your postd will you admit it right here?
       
      stumbler, Jun 6, 2023
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    You can do whatever gives you pleasure.
    You don't need shooter's permission.
     
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      I need your on the record agreement that if I go back and find your posts where you supported the people who refused to comply with the J6 committee subpoenas you will admit that on the record so you can't just keep going in nonsense circles.

      Do you agree?
       
      stumbler, Jun 7, 2023
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