Trump aide Walt Nauta indicted for role in Mar-a-Lago documents scandal

Brad Reed
June 9, 2023, 11:53 AM ET



Donald Trump points and shouts at what he calls the "dishonest" media during a speech. (Shutterstock.com)


An aide to former President Donald Trump has also been indicted for taking part in an alleged scheme to obstruct government efforts to retrieve top-secret documents from his Mar-a-Lago resort.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Walt Nauta, a former military valet who followed Trump to Mar-a-Lago after working in the Trump White House, has also been charged.

The WSJ report notes that Nauta "has long been a focus" of the investigation into Trump's handling of classified documents "after he was seen on surveillance footage moving boxes from a storage room before and after investigators issued a May subpoena seeking the return of all government documents in Trump’s possession."

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https://www.rawstory.com/walt-nauta-indicted/

 

'A spy's dream': Former FBI deputy director calls Trump's document stash 'unmitigated recklessness'

Matthew Chapman
June 9, 2023, 4:33 PM ET



Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe (Screen cap).


Former President Donald Trump's pattern of behavior with highly classified military secrets was a horrific danger to national security and to people who work in defense — and a massive boon to anyone who would seek to harm either, said former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe on CNN Friday.

He was speaking shortly after special counsel Jack Smith publicly announced a 37-count indictment against the former president, making a statement to similar effect.

"You've not had the greatest history with Donald Trump, but you have an incredible history looking at indictments and being a part of major investigations," said anchor Jake Tapper. "Have you ever seen an indictment quite like this?"

"This is extraordinary," said McCabe. "I've worked on and around many mishandling cases, Espionage Act cases. I've never seen an indictment with this level of granularity, detail, the photographs, just to mention those photographs, to drive home this point of what you were just referring to, Jake, that the unmitigated recklessness of how our most sensitive information was handled. It's off the charts. Stratospheric."

"And this is not the presidential — this is not like George W. Bush's home, guarded by Secret Service agents," cut in Tapper. "This is a hotel!"

"It's a public entity that has a long history of intruders, people with suspicious backgrounds, being taken into custody and investigated for the activities they engaged there," said McCabe. "So it's absolutely a spy's dream."

Watch the video at this link.



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-documents-2661183243/

 

So, Trump took the classified documents. The National Archives politely asked for them back, Trump gives them a portion of the documents. The FBI is brought in to go look for these additional documents, but the National Archives says there more. Trump's lawyers say "nawah"! But somehow more documents are found. And the whole time we heard from Trump saying that he had every right to the documents, pointing to other presidents that he thinks stole documents (but in those other cases, the defendant had cooperated fully with the National Archives). And then we get a tape recording of Trump saying he knew the documents were classified, despite his claim he could declassify them with a thought.

Yup, total "which hunt"!

There's shooter, I corrected it for you!

At least Trump didn't go hunting with Dick Cheney...

 

Shooter obviously missed it when Mueller said he was not going to go against doj policy on indicting a sitting president.

 

Trump Showed Off Secret ‘Plan of Attack’ at His Golf Club: Indictment

Donald Trump’s 44-page bombshell indictment, unsealed on Friday, seems to confirm multiple reports from CNN about an audio tape in which he admitted holding on to a classified Pentagon document. The indictments allege that Trump showed off top-secret materials to others on two occasions, one of which was a meeting with a writer, publisher, and two members of his staff at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. The ex-president apparently described and displayed a “plan of attack” prepared by the Department of Defense to the individuals—none of whom had security clearance—boasting it was “highly confidential” and “secret.” “As president I could have declassified it,” Trump said, according to the indictment. “Now I can’t, you know, but this is still a secret.” Sources told CNN last week that the document detailed a potential attack on Iran, though the indictment did not specify this detail. Trump has previously claimed he declassified the documents, sometimes just “by thinking about it.” He now faces charges for seven federal crimes, including a violation of the Espionage Act, and up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...w-jersey-meeting-indictment?ref=home?ref=home

 

'Never secured in any way': Reporter says anyone at Mar-a-Lago could have seen defense secrets

Matthew Chapman
June 9, 2023, 6:44 PM ET



Photo: Twitter


Former President Donald Trump's indictment for allegedly concealing classified information in boxes at Mar-a-Lago and demanding his attorneys destroy evidence subpoenaed by a federal grand jury is an unprecedent in American history.

But also unprecedented is the extent to which the former president put critical national security secrets at risk, as CNN's Kristen Holmes detailed out on Friday — because the photographed boxes of documents were in areas that had essentially no security at all.

"What do we know about how secure or insecure these documents, these classified documents containing important national secrets were when stored at Mar-a-Lago?" said anchor Jake Tapper.

"Well, I reached out to a Mar-a-Lago member when we got these," said Holmes. "We know it's not a house, it's a club that people have access to. But I wanted to know how much access. Were these pictures familiar to them? This is what this member told me. They said they have never seen anything, including that white and gold ballroom on there, locked. The direct quote is, 'Once you are on the property, you can really go anywhere. I do.' Being a private club, they can't really stop you from going into the public spaces. One thing to note, you do have to be a member to go on the property, but you can also be the guest of a member."

"This has been a long-term issue for security around the former president," Holmes continued. "We know that while he was president, his advance team, his body men, they had very specific protocols in place for when members brought an 'unsavory character' as a guest. That is, limit proximity to the president, not boxes in a room with an event. This source said they had taken guests to the ballroom on multiple occasions. Never had an issue going in and out of there. It was never secured in any way."

"The other thing to note, since he has been president, since these documents were there, we know that the protocols have gone wayside," Holmes added. "He had dinner with Kanye West. None of that was vetted by any staff. All of those protocols were no longer in place, which gives you an idea of who could have been on this property."

"Yeah," said Tapper. "And we should note, I said this earlier, go to Google and Google 'Mar-a-Lago intruder,' and you'll see at least two Chinese nationals were caught on the property; one of them was deported back to China. There is another allegation about somebody who appears to have been a con artist. Those are just the three we know about."

Watch below or at the following link.

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-documents-not-secure/

 

Yes so so awful, the president having top secert documents in the garage of his rented out home. Completely unethical a private server, with top secert info stored on it, in the basement of her home. The truly unbelievable power MSM has to tell only the story they want you to hear, so your ignorance remains controlled.

 

Trump Maximum Sentences Add Up To Staggering 536 YEARS In Prison For All Counts
By Tommy ChristopherJun 10th, 2023, 10:16 am



The maximum sentences for all of the counts former President Donald Trump faces add up to a staggering 536 years in prison — although he’s not likely to face anything near that number.

Trump himself broke the blockbuster news Thursday that he has been indicted in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into his retention of classified documents under the Espionage Act, news that shook the political world.


On Friday, that indictment was unsealed, and the details of the whopping 37 counts rocked the news and political media, and sent Trump and his defenders into apoplectic rage.

The 37 counts Trump faces and their maximum sentences are:

• 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information — 10 years each
• 3 counts of withholding or concealing documents in a federal investigation — 20 years each
• 2 counts of false statements — 5 years each
• 1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice — 20 years
• That adds up to 400 years, longer than the U.S. has been a country.

But Trump is also under indictment on 34 felony counts in New York over Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and his grand jury investigating the circumstances around hush money payments to Stormy Daniels.

In the unlikely event that Trump received the maximum sentence for every count of that indictment, that would amount to 136 years in prison — or a cool 500 years for all 71 counts.

Trump is also facing the Special Counsel Jack Smith-led Justice Department probes into Trump’s conduct surrounding the January 6 insurrection, as well as Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ grand jury investigation of Trump’s effort to overturn election results in Georgia.

The Georgia case — which many experts and analysts believe presents a significant legal threat to Trump by virtue of the evidence that is publicly known — is also widely believed to be on the precipice of delivering indictments in August. Others believe that the Jan. 6 case could follow closely thereafter.

Regardless of the length of sentence, the prospect of Trump going to prison presents yet another unprecedented conundrum: what becomes of Trump’s Secret Service protection? The Secret Service has no protocol for a protectee who has been convicted of a crime and imprisoned, so one would need to be developed if such a situation arose.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump...taggering-536-years-in-prison-for-all-counts/

 

… Crossin' the highway late last night
He shoulda looked left and he shoulda looked right
He didn't see the station wagon car
The skunk got squashed and there you are
… You got your

Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Stinkin' to high heaven


'Bumbling mafia don': legal expert explains how Trump made the prosecution's case stronger

David McAfee
June 9, 2023, 11:47 PM ET



President Donald Trump (image via Nicholas Kamm/AFP).


Donald Trump acted like "the most bumbling mafia don in the history of mafia dons" when he coordinated the obstruction alleged in the confidential documents case, national security attorney Brad Moss said Friday night.

Moss, who said on Thursday that Trump is facing the legal challenge of his life with a legal team that isn't up for the job, was part of a panel discussing the case on MSNBC's The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell. Moss accused Trump of "showing off documents" and being careless in other ways.

"He's talking about it to a staffer from the political action committee. He's talking about it to the ghost writers of Mark Meadows," Moss said. "He's getting these subpoenas and acting like the most mafia don in the history of mafia dons. He was joking and talking to his lawyer like, can we say that we don't have anything?"

No, Moss said, you either "comply with the subpoena or move to quash it."

"You don't say, how do I lie? That is what is so dangerously concerning with this indictment," he added.

Moss further noted that Trump is presumed innocent, but added that, "if we do get the trial, I don't see much of a reason to believe that they won't be able to make their case."

"I don't see a lot of substantive defense that Donald Trump will make at trial," according to Moss.

Watch the video below or click the following link.



https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-bumbling-mafia-don/

 

Every American and especially all treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans should be required to read this indictment. It is short, simple, straightforward and easy to understand. And it has names dates times and places. And recordings, texts, and direct testimony. And no true American can defend Trump for this.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23839625/trump-indictment.pdf

 

Shooter would bet that the indictment has been framed and is hanging on despicable walls all over the country.

 

Now I am going to have to go back to using asterixes here just to point out the mountain of lies Jordan is telling.



A Yelling Jim Jordan Contradicts Trump While Defending Him

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Peter Wade
Sun, June 11, 2023 at 9:43 AM MDT




Rep. Jim Jordan didn’t let pesky facts get in the way of defending Donald Trump against allegations made in the indictment charging him last week on 37 federal felony counts, the majority of which relate directly to “willful retention of national defense information.”

During an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union, Jordan repeatedly ignored an admission by Trump that he did not as alleged in the indictment.

“The indictment does say, as I mentioned, the documents included U.S. defense, nuclear capabilities, potential U.S. vulnerabilities to a military attack,” host Dana Bash said. “They were kept in unsecure areas, like a bathroom, a ballroom, a bedroom. And the indictment says that Donald Trump lied to lawyers, his own lawyers, which resulted in false statements to the FBI, so that he could keep those documents. Is all of that, any of that acceptable to you?”


“Dana, the standard is clear,” Jordan answered. “The standard is Navy v. Egan, a 1988 case, unanimous decision from the courts, from the court. Justice Blackmun wrote the opinion. And it said the president’s ability to classify and control access to national security information flows from the Constitution. He decides. He alone decides. He said he declassified this material. He can put it wherever he wants. He can handle it however he wants. That’s the law.”*


Bash pushed back, pointing out that Trump on tape admitted in at least one instance that he did not declassify certain documents he took to Mar-a-Lago. “In this indictment, he states on at least one occasion that he did not declassify the information. When he’s showing a document to somebody who doesn’t have a security clearance, I might add, he says explicitly that it is classified. He didn’t declassify it.”

On the audio recording, according to the indictment, Trump said of at least one document that he claimed was “secret information” prepared for him by the military, “As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t.”

But Jordan chose to contradict Trump’s own words as they appeared in the indictment, choosing instead to believe Trump when he said he declassified everything he took with him. “Dana, he has said time and time again he’s declassified all this material,” **Jordan said. “This is the most political thing I have ever seen. They have been out to get [the former] president. They’re indicting President Trump on Tuesday for having material that he declassified that was protected by the Secret Service.”


Again, Bash confronted Jordan with facts. “Number one, the Secret Service, they are charged with protecting the president. They didn’t even know, according to the indictment, that those documents were there. So, that wasn’t their job. Number two, do you have evidence that the president, when he was president, now former president, actually declassified these documents before he took them?”

Jordan, lacking any actual evidence, then claimed that he believes Donald Trump, a proven serial liar, at his word. “I go on the president’s word, and he said he did,” Jordan said. “And the Supreme Court said that’s what counts. So, we can have all the things [Special Counsel] Jack Smith wants to say, but everyone sees this for the political operation it is. The standard is the standard. I didn’t set the standard. The Constitution and Supreme Court did. And they did it in a unanimous fashion, and it was an opinion written by Justice Blackmun.”***


Jordan then tried to argue that this prosecution is somehow politically motivated, running down a list of conspiracy theories Trump has perpetuated as well as actions the government has taken. “This is so political,” he said. “In 2016 — I mean, every election, we have now seen this, Dana. 2016, it was a dossier that they used. They knew it was false. They used it to go get a warrant to spy on his campaign. 2018, it was the Mueller investigation. 2020, they suppressed the Biden laptop story with the 51 former intel officials. 2022, they raided his home 91 days before an election. And now they’re indicting him before the 2024 presidential race. Every single election, they have done something.”

Bash tried again to get Jordan to acknowledge that, per the indictment, even Trump admitted he did not declassify at least one document. “On July 21, a recording of a conversation that he had said — quote — ‘As president, I could have declassified it,’ talking about a document he was holding. ‘Now I can’t.’ That means it wasn’t declassified.”

“Saying he could is not the same as saying he didn’t,” Jordan claimed.

Bash then moved on to the topic of how Trump was storing the documents. “I’m sure you have seen the photos from the indictment. There are classified documents in a bathroom, in a ballroom stage, and classified information that he — we’re talking about information that the United States shares with its allies, critical information, strewn on the floor. Does that look secure to you?”

“Again, Dana, the standard is the standard,” Jordan said. “The president of the United States, he can classify and he can control access to national security information however he wants. That’s the standard. That’s the Constitution. That’s what the court said in Navy v. Egan in a 1988 case. I don’t know how many more times I can say it. If he wants to store material in a box in a bathroom, if he wants to store it in a box on a stage, he can do that.”****

After a heated back-and-forth with Bash over whether Trump declassified the documents he took to Mar-a-Lago, Jordan attempted to deflect by focusing the conversation on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her email server, calling the fact that she wasn’t prosecuted and Trump has been “an affront to consistent application of the law.”

“You had Secretary Clinton, who had classified material on a server,” Jordan continued. “She was not president of the United States. She was Secretary Clinton. You have that happen. Nothing happens to her. When you have two people who do the same thing, and one has the standard that I have talked about, but the only one who gets indicted is the Republican, the only one who gets indicted is the one who was actually president, who did it the right way, oh, my goodness. That is what the American people see.”

When Bash pointed out that Trump had four years in office during which he could have prosecuted Clinton if she had in fact committed a crime, Jordan gave this wholly laughable response: “Because President Trump is not like President Biden. President Trump doesn’t go after his political enemies. He knew what it would do to the country.”

Trump doesn’t go after political enemies? I think the people who were in the Capitol on Jan. 6 would like a word.****

https://www.yahoo.com/news/yelling-jim-jordan-contradicts-trump-154353293.html


*Lie by omission. Yes the president can declassify things. But not by just waving his hand or thinking about them. There is a very specific procedure that has to be follow and it its not then its not declassified.

**And Trump has just as often including on tape admitted he did not declassify the documents.


***Same lie. For the president to declassify anything specific procedures must be followed and it must be in writing. signed off of my the relevant agencies.


****The biggest and most laughable lie ever told.

 

Barr: GOP spouting ‘big lies’ comparing Trump handling of classified documents to previous presidents
by Lauren Sforza - 06/11/23 12:52 PM ET

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Former Attorney General Bill Barr called arguments being made by Republicans attempting to compare former President Trump’s handling of classified documents to previous presidents “big lies.”

Barr was asked by “Fox News Sunday” host Shannon Bream to respond to comparisons of Trump leaving the White House with classified documents to former Presidents Clinton and Obama, and President Biden when he was vice president.


Barr said that the difference is that other presidents worked with the National Archives to store those documents, unlike Trump who faces obstruction of justice charges over trying to keep from handing the records back over to the federal government.

“So, there are two big lies, I think, that are out there right now,” Barr said. “One is all these other presidents took all these documents. Those were situations where they arranged with the archives to set up special space under the management, control, and security provided by the archivists to temporarily put documents until the libraries were ready. These were not people just putting them in their basement, OK.”

The second lie, according to Barr, is the notion that a president has “complete authority” to declare any document “personal.”




“It’s facially ridiculous. That opinion had to do with the distinction between official records, which are records prepared by government agencies for the purpose of government action, and personal documents, as opposed to official documents, which are things prepared by the President, such as a diary or notes, which are not used in the government’s deliberations,” Barr said.

He acknowledged that while the president does have some discretion, some of the documents in Trump’s possession, including what could be included in the president’s daily summary of high-level information, clearly could not be marked as personal. The summary includes some of the nation’s most sensitive information.

“The president has some discretion, but these are official documents. It’s inarguable the President’s daily brief provided by the intelligence community is not Donald J. Trump’s personal document, period,” Barr said.


The Justice Department charged Trump in a 37-count indictment last week over his handling of classified materials after leaving office, and the charges hold several decades of prison time.

The Justice Department released evidence that showed that Trump possessed documents that contained nuclear and military secrets, stored them improperly and shared the information with staffers who did not have security clearance.

Barr served as attorney general during the Trump administration until December 2020 when he stated publicly that the FBI and Justice Department found no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the midst of Trump contesting his election loss to Biden that year. Barr has since been a critic of Trump, particularly after Jan. 6.



https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...-classified-documents-to-previous-presidents/

 

Shooter thought once the despicables celebrated for a couple of days they'd follow their own proclamations for once and not try trump in the press before the case goes to court.

Shooter forgot its despicables.
Carry on.

Next up
Guilty until proven innocent.

 

Trumptard desperation is growing more palpable. Just wait until the next indictment from Georgia over Trump's attempts to overturn election results.

 

Any treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican who ever said they care about our national security have now been proven dangerous liars.


Trmp kept 8 documents so sensitive even their access codes are secret, indictment shows

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Sam Fellman
Sat, June 10, 2023 at 8:22 AM MDT



Department of Justice

• Some 31 classified documents are at the epicenter of the Trump indictment.
  
  
• We can glean a lot about what Trump kept from the prosecutor's descriptions and the classification marks.
  
  
• But some of the documents are so sensitive that even their classifications were redacted.
  

Former President Donald Trump didn't keep just any secret records. He stashed away what look to be some choice souvenirs — classified maps of a foreign country, high-resolution imagery likely from US spy satellites, and even more highly sensitive ones about nuclear secrets, his indictment alleges.

There are 31 classified documents recovered by FBI agents that are at the epicenter of the case. The federal indictment alleges Trump "willfully" retained and then failed to return those documents back to the government after his presidency ended.

Trump, for his part, has claimed he was legally entitled to keep these records via the Presidential Records Act, which says an administration's documents belong to the government with exceptions for personal notes and journals.

The charging documents summarize each document — without revealing its secrets — and also include their classification marking, which provides clues to how each record was collected and who could view it.

Some of these documents are so sensitive, however, that even their classification markings were redacted.

The fifth document listed by prosecutors, for example, is top secret, and bears two additional rules: it can not be shared with US allies (NORFORN) and is revealing enough of spying methods that the originating agency controls its further dissemination (ORCON). But right after the TOP SECRET classification level, two other access codes were redacted by prosecutors. All we are able to surmise comes from the description offered: "Document dated June 2020 concerning nuclear capabilities of a foreign country."


Federal prosecutors listed 31 highly sensitive documents they recovered via an FBI search of Mar-a-Lago in August, 2022.Department of Justice
Seven other documents listed have these classification markings removed. Secrets like these are so potentially damaging that only officials, service members, and contractors with the appropriate clearance level and need-to-know can view them, and only then in a secured vault known as a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIF.

The SCIF system is hardly foolproof.

In the recent Discord leaks case, an airman who worked in one is accused of printing and copying what could be hundreds of classified files and sneaking them out to share them with his gamer buddies.

That said, the SCIF is the authorized space to view these and much more secure than the ballroom, storage area, or shower where Trump allegedly kept the classified documents at his private Mar-a-Lago club in Florida.

Prosecutors note that Mar-a-Lago wasn't an authorized area to view these secrets — potentially risking their exposure to inadvertent discovery by the club's thousands of visitors or to discovery by foreign spies.


Photo of documents recovered at Mar-a-Lago shows "TOP SECRET" cover sheets.Department of Justice
Despite the redactions, we can still glean a lot about what Trump kept.

Many items come from presidential briefings. There are also numerous files based on signals intelligence, whose methods range widely from measures like electronic eavesdropping to detecting foreign missiles and radars, and are denoted SI.

A number of them are marked, TK, shorthand for TALENT KEYHOLE, a catch-all for satellite-based intelligence, including high-resolution imagery. Others bear the code, HCS-P, a compartmentalization mark meant to safeguard intelligence whose exposure could compromise spy operations or endanger the lives of the spies who collected it.

Read the original article on Business Insider

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kept-8-documents-sensitive-142217415.html

 

I believe this is right. One thing most legal experts agree on is Jack Smith wrote his indictment in such a simple and straightforward way anyone, even treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans, can easily read and understand it. But this is one of the biggest cases ever brought because its the first time in American history a former president has been indicted. So the confidence expressed in the indictment has to be backed up by a mountain of evidence we have not seen yet. And MAGA Haberman would be well positioned to hear about it.


Trump indictment is only 'a fraction of the evidence the government has amassed': Maggie Haberman

Brad Reed
June 12, 2023, 9:45 AM ET



Donald Trump. (vasilis asvestas / Shutterstock.com)


Special counsel Jack Smith's indictment of former President Donald Trump drew praise for its thoroughness even from conservative legal experts such as Jonathan Turley and former Attorney General Bill Barr, who in the past have defended the former president amid numerous scandals.

And according to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, the government has a lot more damning proof that it can throw at Trump during his criminal trial.

Writing on Twitter, Haberman reveals that "the indictment, according to multiple people familiar with the case, shows a fraction of the evidence the government has amassed."

One of the biggest problems for Trump, Haberman writes, is that the government has been able to get much of its evidence from Trump's own lawyers who were forced to hand over their personal notes after special counsel Jack Smith's office successfully used the crime-fraud exception to pierce attorney-client privilege.

IN OTHER NEWS: 'Stupid, foolish and insane' Lindsey Graham slammed for manic defenses of Trump

Haberman notes that Trump ignored his lawyers' own advice to turn over the documents in his possession as requested by a subpoena.

"Had Trump taken the advice of lawyers and advisers urging him to do what National Archives asked for nearly a year -- return the materials -- what followed would not have happened. Instead, almost everyone around him has been thrust into either peril or drama in the case," she writes.



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-indictment-jack-smith-2661212532/

 

So @69magpie , we realize you made your proclamation from your high moral ground before the biden and Pence security documents thingy broke, but Shooter has just gotta ask;

If indeed Trump's taking of classified documents is what triggered your outrage, what did the revelations that both Biden and Pence had classified documents in their possession after they left office do for your outrage?

And while we're at it, we know that Hillary had classified documents in her possession although she was at the time still a government employee, but she also had them stored insecurely. How come we didn't hear your outrage about that?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

No the last thing you want is to know. Because the difference boils down to one very simple word; INTENT. Neither Clinton, President Biden, nor Pence INTENDED to illegally posses classified material. They did not do it on purpose. When it is proven beyond any doubt Trump INTENDED to deliberately steal classified material which he refused to return, showed to other people, lied about them, and hid them from the government. INTENT


Now I know the whataboutism is the treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican talking point of the day hot off the right wing false propaganda noise machine presses Which is why you are trying to push it here. But as far as a defense its as limp as Trump's dick because there is no possible comparison between what others did and what Trump has done.

Anyone who actually bothers to read the indictment will easily see that for themselves.