To be a treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republican it requires suspending all disbelief. There is no past and no future. They are required to only believe what they are saying in that moment. It cannot be questioned and all direct contradictions must be ignored.



Nikki Haley says Americans too 'smart' to vote for 'convicted' Trump after she vows to support him

David Edwards
September 3, 2023, 11:49 AM ET



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Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley defended her pledge to support Donald Trump if he is the GOP nominee despite claiming Americans are too "smart" to vote for a convicted felon.

Although Trump has pleaded not guilty in four criminal cases, CBS host Robert Costa asked Haley if she would stand by her vow to support the Republican nominee even if he was convicted.

"When you were on that debate stage in Milwaukee, which has earned you some good reviews inside of the party, inside of the Republican Party, you raised your hand, said you would still support him if he was convicted of a crime, and the nominee next year," Costa noted. "Do you stand by your decision to hold up your hand on stage and back Trump, should he be the nominee and be a convicted felon?"

"What you saw were candidates on that stage said that they would do exactly what they signed and pledged to do, which is support the Republican nominee," Haley replied. "I don't think President Trump's going to be the nominee. I think it's going to be me. But I will tell you that any Republican is better than what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are doing."

"But you are implying that the American people are not smart," she continued. "The American people are not going to vote for a convicted criminal. The American people are going to vote for someone who can win a general election."

Haley reiterated her plan to support the Republican nominee regardless of their crimes.

"And so I think that, yes, I will support the Republican nominee always," she said. "And I will make sure that that person, we're going to pick someone that's going to beat a President Kamala Harris, because we can't have a President Kamala Harris or we'll never get our country back."

Watch the video below from CBS.



https://www.rawstory.com/nikki-haley-support-trump/

 

When it comes to sticking with the truth and nothing but the truth the despicables are miserable failures, aren't they?
But they can demonstrate a complete lack of ethics, honesty and fair play without even trying.





And we still don't know just how low they'll go, do we?

 

So shooter, what was the purpose of the Jan 6th rally? The election was already over and every state had certified the results. And what got so many Trumptards so upset?

Enlighten us

 

camp follower troll spew dismissed.
Again.

 

Attaboy

 

Swing state Republicans bleed donors and cash over Trump's false election claims
Tim Reid and Nathan Layne
Updated July 5, 2023·7 min read
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Swing state Republicans bleed donors and cash over Trump's false election claims
FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump arrives at Yuma International Airport in Yuma, Arizona

By Tim Reid and Nathan Layne

(Reuters) - Real estate mogul Ron Weiser has been one of the biggest donors to the Michigan Republican Party, giving $4.5 million in the recent midterm election cycle. But no more.

Weiser, former chair of the party, has halted his funding, citing concerns about the organization's stewardship. He says he doesn't agree with Republicans who promote falsehoods about election results and insists it's "ludicrous" to claim Donald Trump, who lost Michigan by 154,000 votes in 2020, carried the state.

"I question whether the state party has the necessary expertise to spend the money well," he said.


The withdrawal of bankrollers like Weiser reflects the high price Republicans in the battleground states of Michigan and Arizona are paying for their full-throated support of former President Trump and his unsubstantiated claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

The two parties have hemorrhaged money in recent years, undermining Republican efforts to win back the ultra-competitive states that could determine who wins the White House and control of the U.S. Congress in next November's elections, according to a Reuters review of financial filings, plus interviews with six major donors and three election campaign experts.

Arizona's Republican Party had less than $50,000 in cash reserves in its state and federal bank accounts as of March 31 to spend on overheads such as rent, payroll and political campaign operations, the filings show. At the same point four years ago, it had nearly $770,000.

The Michigan party's federal account had about $116,000 on March 31, a drop from nearly $867,000 two years ago. It has yet to disclose updated financial information for its state account this year.

The two parties have "astonishingly low cash reserves," said Seth Masket, director of the non-partisan Center on American Politics at the University of Denver, adding that state parties play a key election role, helping promote candidates, fund get-out-the-vote efforts, pay for ads and recruit volunteers.

"Their ability to help candidates is severely limited right now."

The Arizona party spent more than $300,000 on "legal consulting" fees last year, according to its federal filings, which do not specify the type of legal work paid for.

In that period, legal fees were paid to a firm that had filed lawsuits seeking to overturn Trump's defeat in Arizona, according to separate campaign and legal disclosures. Money was also paid to attorneys who represented Kelli Ward, the former party chair when the Justice Department subpoenaed her over her involvement in a plan to falsely certify to Congress that Trump, and not Democratic President Joe Biden, had won Arizona, plus when a congressional committee subpoenaed her phone records.

More than $500,000 was also spent in Arizona on an election night party and a bus tour for statewide Trump-backed candidates last year, the financial filings show. All of those candidates, who supported the former president's election-steal claims, lost in last November's midterms.

It's not just Weiser who's had enough.

Five other Republican donors to the Arizona or Michigan parties, who have each donated tens of thousands of dollars over the past six years, told Reuters they had also ceased giving money, citing state leaders' drives to overturn the 2020 election, their backing of losing candidates who support Trump's election conspiracy and what they view as extreme positions on issues like abortion.

"It's too bad we let the right wing of our party take over the operations," said Jim Click, whose family has been a longtime major Republican donor in Arizona. He and other donors said they would give money directly to candidates or support them through other political fundraising groups.

Kristina Karamo, chair of the Michigan state party, didn't respond to a request for comment for this story. In the campaign for her position, she said that she wanted to break ties with established donors, accusing them of exploiting the party for their own gain, and wants to rely more on grassroots members.

Ward, who stepped down as Arizona party chair in January after four years at the helm, told Reuters that she and her team had always had revenues to cover outgoings and had left her successor at least three months' operating expenses plus a "robust fundraising operation."

Dajana Zlaticanin, a spokesperson for new chair Jeff DeWit, said that when he took over, "cash reserves were extremely low and previous bills kept coming in." Contributions are on the uptick, she said, with over $40,000 raised in May.

The Republican National Committee, which oversees Republican political operations nationally, didn't respond to a request for comment about the finances of the two state parties.

'I SEE NO SUN COMING OUT'

Arizona and Michigan, both won by Biden in 2020, are among just a handful of swing states that will likely decide the race for the presidency in November 2024.

Not all Republican parties have fared as badly financially as Arizona and Michigan. For example, the swing state of North Carolina - where Republican leaders haven't focused so heavily on Trump's election-steal fight - ended 2022 with nearly $800,000 in its federal accounts, according to the filings.

It is difficult to get a complete picture of parties' finances, though, given time lags in disclosures and because not all of their accounts are subject to reporting requirements.

Furthermore, state parties don't rely solely on individual donors, they also receive money from national party organizations, outside groups and political action committees.

Michigan was a hotbed of conspiracy theories after Trump lost the 2020 election, and this month Karamo was fined by a county judge for filing a lawsuit that made unfounded claims about voting irregularities in Detroit.

Tensions over transparency have started to boil over.

Last week former state party budget chairman Matt Johnson launched a broadside against Karamo, two days after she removed him from his post, accusing her of keeping his committee in the dark about the party's finances.

"As far as we could tell from the piecemeal information we received, the party's fundraising had been extremely meager, and the spending was so far out of proportion with income as to put us on the path to bankruptcy," he said.

Jason Roe, a former executive director of the Michigan Republican Party, said the financial figures disclosed so far by the party underscore the difficult task of supporting operations without the financial backing of big donors.

"They are effectively broke and I don't see the clouds parting and the sun coming out on their fundraising abilities," he said.

'DETRIMENTAL TO CAMPAIGNS'

The review of the two Republican state parties' filings shows that a near shut-off of the donor spigot is contributing to their financial woes.

The Michigan party's federal account took in $51,000 in the fist three months of this year, putting it on pace to raise less than a quarter of its haul in the first half of 2019, the same period in the last presidential election cycle.

In March, Karamo told a gathering of local officials that the party had $460,000 in liabilities after the 2022 midterm elections. While not unusually large, the debt would normally be covered by fresh fundraising.

The Arizona party, meanwhile, raised roughly $139,000 in the first three months of this year, according to state and federal filings. In the comparable period in 2019, in the months after the 2018 midterm elections, it raised more than $330,000.

New Arizona chair DeWit, who was NASA's chief financial officer in the Trump administration, is working to make the party attractive to donors again by focusing on winning elections, spokesperson Zlaticanin said.

Some donors in Michigan said they had started talking with each other about how best to bypass the state party and support individual Republican candidates. But the state party's organizational heft will be hard to replicate, said Jeff Timmer, a former executive director of the Michigan Republican Party.

"You have to have boots on the ground and you can't build that kind of infrastructure quickly enough to win the 2024 election," Timmer said.

Jonathan Lines, who preceded Ward as Arizona's party chairman up to 2019, said he expected new donor money to mostly go to political action committees, and other groups who fund campaigns, rather than the state party.

"But not having the state party well funded is detrimental to many Republican campaigns next year," he added. (This story has been refiled with a corrected picture caption)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/swing-state-republicans-bleed-donors-100223002.html

 

Mike Pence Comes Out Swinging Against Populism In The GOP, Slams Trump’s Call For The ‘Termination’ Of The Constitution
By Alex GriffingSep 6th, 2023, 12:34 pm

Donald Trump’s former vice president turned 2024 presidential primary rival, Mike Pence, came out swinging on Wednesday against populism in the GOP and took aim at his former boss.

Pence’s campaign released a preview of a speech will give in New Hampshire Wednesday titled “Populism vs. Conservatism” and will make the case that right-wing populists are akin to and progressive as both “are fellow travelers on the same road to ruin.”

“Will we be the party of conservatism, or will our party follow the siren song of populism?” Pence is set to say, according to a preview of the speech shared with Axios’s Mike Allen.


Pence will also take a not-so-subtle jab at Trump, saying:

A leading candidate last year called for ‘the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution’ … while his imitators have a demonstrated willingness to brandish government power to silence critics and impose their will on opponents.

Pence is referring to a December 2022 post by Trump, in which he wrote, on Turth Social, “Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”

Pence joined Fox News’s Bill Hemmer on Wednesday morning to discuss his new more aggressive campaign strategy.

“One of the lines you’re set to deliver is, are we going to follow the siren song of populism away from the timeless conservative principles of the Republican Party? To whom are you referring?” Hemmer asked Pence.


“Well, look, you look at this Republican field, whether it’s my former running mate or some of his imitators, and there is a push in this Republican primary to to move us away from our party’s historic commitment to American leadership on the world stage, to a commitment to fiscal responsibility and reform in the face of a massive national debt crisis,” Pence shot back, adding:

You know, I came to this party, Bill, during the Reagan years, and and I really believe not only the pathway to victory for the Republican Party in the fall of 24, but the way we restore security and prosperity for the American people is to deliver a standard bearer and an agenda that’s built on that commonsense conservative agenda that has always delivered greater security and prosperity for the American people. And I say with great humility that I’m the most proven, the most consistent, the most qualified and the most tested conservative in this race.


https://www.mediaite.com/politics/m...call-for-the-termination-of-the-constitution/

 

Colorado secretary of state calls Trump a ‘liar,’ vows to see ballot lawsuit through
Julia Shapero
Sat, September 9, 2023 at 7:34 PM MDT·2 min read




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Colorado Secretary of State

(D) called former President
a “liar” after he suggested a recent push to use the 14th Amendment to keep him off the ballot in the state was “election interference.”

“Trump is a liar with no respect for the Constitution,” Griswold said in an interview on MSNBC on Saturday.

“To say that a section of the 14th Amendment is election interference and considering how to uphold the Constitution is election interference is un-American,” she continued. “We know that the former president is a liar who will do everything he can to hold onto power.”

Griswold and Trump were both named in a recent lawsuit filed by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which argues that the former president is disqualified from the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment’s Section 3 — also dubbed the insurrection clause.

The D.C.-based watchdog group asked the court to find Trump’s alleged actions related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol disqualifying and to bar Griswold from allowing him on the 2024 Republican primary ballot or any futures ballots in the state.

Griswold added Saturday that she plans to “see this litigation through,” noting that she thinks “it’s good for a court to weigh in” on the issue.

“Section 3 of the 14th Amendment clearly lays out in very clear terms that if someone swears to uphold the Constitution, they are disqualified from holding office if they go and engage in insurrection, rebellion, or aid or comfort to the enemies of the Constitution,” she said.

“And Donald Trump incited an insurrection, and there are big constitutional questions around that provision as to whether he is disqualified from the Colorado ballot,” Griswold continued. “So, we’ll see this litigation through, and ultimately I think it’s important for a court to weigh in to provide guidance.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-secretary-state-calls-trump-013438359.html

 

Can't beat an opponent at the voting booth, maybe the courts.
Whatever it takes!

 

[QUOTE="stumbler, post: 14763464, member: 36538"Nikki Haley says Americans too 'smart' to vote for 'convicted' Trump after she vows to support him[/QUOTE]

A trumptard by any other name.

 

A trumptard by any other name.[/QUOTE]



The hallmarks of all treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans is lying and cowardice. Just look at Haley.

 

Why yes, lets talk about lying cowards, shall we?

Democrats Are Dooming Democracy's Future - The Atlantic

Democrats Will Have to Do More to Save Democracy From Trump

The Biden administration’s troubles may pave the road for the former president to return in 2024 with a legitimate electoral win.

By Adam Serwer

JANUARY 6, 2022
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As 2022 begins, the risk American democracy faces is not just that Donald Trump supporters will repeat the events of January 6, 2021—attempting to overturn a free and fair election to illegitimately install Trump as president. It is that Trump will win outright, and use his second term in office to further erode popular sovereignty.

During the four years of the Trump presidency, his opponents could draw comfort from the fact that a majority of Americans had rejected him. Trump had lost the popular vote, his party never won the support of the majority of the electorate, and he had prevailed because his political coalition was ideally distributed for the Electoral College. His four years in office coincided with Republicans losing both chambers of Congress and ultimately the White House.

One of the great challenges of the Biden administration was that, in order to seal Trumpism’s fate, it would have to make good on a pledge of widespread prosperity that Trump had promised but never delivered, preferring instead to deliver a windfall to America’s wealthiest while benefiting from a recovery that began to crest as he was taking office. A Joe Biden presidency would have to show that liberal democracy functions better than the Trumpian alternative.

“The former president and his supporters have decided the only way for them to win is to suppress your vote and subvert our elections. It’s wrong. It’s undemocratic. And frankly it’s un-American,” Biden said this morning during his speech commemorating the anniversary of the riot. But that is not the only way for Trump to return to power, and Biden’s troubles may pave the road for that return. As my colleague David Graham has written, “Those who fret about the fate of American democracy aren’t wrong to do so. They just may be focusing too much on the scenario in which Trump illegally seizes power, and not enough on the possibility of a duly elected second term.”

A promising start with the American Rescue Plan has collapsed into legislative gridlock, in which moderate members of the Democratic caucus are blocking some of the most popular elements of Biden’s agenda. Inflation has eaten away at economic recovery, diminishing the significance of wage gains and an employment boom. The pandemic rages on as new, more contagious variants of the coronavirus spread, and the death toll continues to rise, aided by vaccine opposition fueled by partisan identity and misinformation.

These factors have drawn Biden’s approval to depths that will be difficult to recover from, and are likely to result in the Democrats losing both chambers of Congress in the coming midterms, should they persist. They will also work to Trump’s advantage should he run again, and history suggests that voters are likely to prioritize the well-being of themselves and their families over more distant and abstract concerns about authoritarianism. Democrats have also failed to make the necessary structural changes that would strengthen democracy in the long term—preventing election subversion, alleviating Senate malapportionment by admitting new states, or strengthening the hand of organized labor—thereby giving the GOP few incentives to change course. Contrary to Republican hysteria about “woke capital,” corporate America’s progressive veneer is nothing more than a marketing scheme, and its generous donations to the GOP show corporate interests—deregulation, lower taxes, a disempowered and underpaid workforce—are fully compatible with democratic backsliding and Trump’s authoritarian ambitions.

The economic collapse that followed the Panic of 1873 helped doom the South’s brief experiment with interracial democracy during Reconstruction, and saw the Democrats take back the House for the first time since the Civil War ended. The depression had tremendous political consequences beyond just the direct results, accelerating the Republican retreat from the cause of Black rights. Victory can discredit some ideologies while legitimizing others, shifting the political landscape and altering the incentives of parties to pursue one cause or abandon another.

After the 1884 election, Frederick Douglass expressed disbelief that Democrats had been returned to the White House, having been so strongly associated with the Confederacy’s attempt to destroy the Union over slavery less than two decades earlier, noting that the conventional wisdom was that “many years must elapse before it could again be trusted with the reins of the National Government.” Nevertheless, Douglass wrote, “events show that little dependence can be wisely placed upon the political stability of the masses. Popularity today is, with them, no guaranty of popularity tomorrow. ”

A second Trump victory, enhanced by popular legitimacy, would be far more dangerous than the first. Trump’s entourage would have the benefit of experience and hindsight, and greater ideological commitment from the Republican Party at large. It would be led by an extreme vanguard that would interpret a popular victory as legitimation of their belief in a racially and religiously exclusive conception of American citizenship, disdain for the fundamental rights of minorities, and desire to eliminate democratic political competition. It would face fewer obstacles from a weak and divided Democratic Party, and less skepticism from a press whose coverage is shaped by a desire to speak with a voice that occupies what their owners and managers believe to be the political middle. The dangers of federal power resting in the hands of people who are convinced that they are justified in using violence to assume it should be obvious.

This reality can be observed in the right’s reaction to the attempted putsch on January 6 and its eventual embrace of the rioters’ goals, if not explicitly their methods. A year after furious Trump supporters ransacked the Capitol, they have become martyrs, their purpose has been mythologized, and their cause has become celebrated. In Congress, the Republican leadership has purged legislators with the temerity to investigate a violent attempted overthrow of an American election and seek to hold those responsible to account. Across the nation, Trump supporters have sought to place themselves in key positions in state election machinery, in the hope that if Trump runs and loses again, they will be able to reverse his loss.

These Trump supporters have justified their actions by insisting on the Trump-inspired fiction that Trump’s defeat was due to fraud. But this fraud is defined not as the presence of election interference, but as the ability of the rival party to contest and win elections in the first place.

None of this is to diminish the risks of election subversion or the flaws in the American system, among them the ability of a party with minority support to win power utilizing the counter-majoritarian levers of that system. The Electoral College thwarts popular will to no civic advantage. The Supreme Court remains hostile to any methods that would strengthen democracy and indifferent to those that undermine it. The ability of legislators to gerrymander themselves into office regardless of public opposition makes a mockery of the concept of popular sovereignty. The increasing radicalism of the Trumpian right, and its refusal to recognize the legitimacy of any political coalition that does not share its identity or politics, is itself an outgrowth of these circumstances.

But the most immediate threat to American democracy may not be the willingness of Trumpist toadies to manipulate election administration, but the White House’s failure to curtail the pandemic and ensure the broad-based prosperity that the former vice president vowed to provide. If the nation continues on this course, Trump may return to office not only with popular legitimacy, but with what he and his cronies will interpret as a mandate to pursue an authoritarian agenda Americans were only barely spared the last time around.

 

Yes let's do.

 

Whataboutism fail.
Again.
Or just plain denial of reality.

 

Look who's talking about plain denial of reality. Trumptards are experts at that.

 

I literally bust out laughing every time he posts that article and its been more than a few times now. Notice the date. JANUARY 6, 2022. Back when he was still predicting we would all be so sorry when the Red Tsunami hit. Which turned into a limp dick piss stream and he still posts that article. That is just so hilarious to me.