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  1. stumbler

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    The same question here. What crime did he commit? Why did the police have to force their way into his home?

    Also this is another example of police not giving a fuck if they get sued. They do don't have to pay the settlement/ The tax payers do.



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    Family of Kenneth Chamberlain, a Black Marine Vet Gunned Down By Cop In His Apartment After Accidentally Setting Off Medical Alert Badge, Reaches $5M Settlement In 12-Year Fight for Some Justice
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    The family of Kenneth Chamberlain Sr., a Black marine vet shot by police in his home in 2011, has recently reached a $5 million settlement in their federal lawsuit against the city of White Plains, New York.

    The city’s Common Council approved the multi-million-dollar agreement on Monday, Aug. 7.

    The 68-year-old’s Nov. 19, 2011 death was set in motion by his accidentally pressing medical alert badge in his sleep and police responding to the distress signal.

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    Kenneth Chamberlain’s marine photo. (Credit: Chamberlain Family)
    When the cops arrived at his unit in his public housing complex at 5:22 a.m., the man told him that he was not in any crisis. He then asked them to leave, but the officers would not. Instead, one officer called him the N-word, took his door off its hinges, and forced their way into his home.


    An investigation determined Chamberlain was shot twice, with one hit to the chest by Officer Anthony Carelli.

    Some portion of the incident was captured by a camera attached to a Taser. Chamberlain was standing in his underwear as the officers move in. He was hit with a taser than quickly shot with beans bags with two live rounds immediately following.

    Officer Stephen Hart who was on the scene and was heard during a phone recording with the medical company saying “We gotta talk, n***er,” filed in his incident report that Chamberlain “went down” after the bean bags were fired.

    “That means they had an opportunity to subdue him,” said Randolph McLaughlin, the family’s attorney at the time. “An EMS worker tells us there was no pause between the bean bags and the gun. It was bean bag, bean bag, gun.”

    Officials justified the killing of Chamberlain by pointing out that he was swinging a knife after the police forcibly entered his apartment.

    The Common Council released a statement last month about its decision to come to a resolution with the family.



    “We are committed to continually reviewing policing policies, investing in training and new technologies as they become available, and working to maintain positive police/community relations, not forgetting these events but working to ensure that they do not happen again,” the statement said.

    The White Plains Police Benevolent Association criticized the decision to settle, stating that while the agreement concludes the years-long legal battle, it does not imply the city’s acceptance of the officer’s wrongdoing.

    “To be clear, the settlement is not a finding of misconduct or wrongdoing by the officers who responded to this call,” a statement from the police association said. “Our members are asked to place their lives in jeopardy each and every day, as they were on the date of this incident.”

    Chamberlain’s family has been fighting for a 12-year battle for justice and agrees with the police association — the settlement does not concede misconduct.

    “While monetary compensation is one component of recognizing the wrong that was done to my father, it does not equate to accountability,” said Kenneth Chamberlain Jr. in a statement, according to LoHud.com.

    Adding, ”My family hopes this settlement will inspire other victims of police violence to keep fighting for the truth. The Chamberlain family will never stop seeking answers and standing with other families doing the same.”

    The lawsuit was filed in 2012 but has had a complex history to get to this point.

    The complaint has gone to federal appeals court twice, where it currently resides. A jury previously ruled in favor of Carelli, the now-former White Plains cop who shot him, regarding his use of force against Chamberlain. However, a second trial for a separate claim was still pending before the settlement.

    One of the attorneys representing the family’s interest, human rights lawyer Mayo Bartlett, said the family is seeking “actual structural change,” adding, “It has to be something that’s codified in law” and addressed in legislation by politicians invested in disrupting police misconduct.

    The story made international news, with a film about the incident, “The Killing of Kenneth Chamberlain,” being released in 2021.



    https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-kenneth-chamberlain-black-marine-170000071.html
     
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    And the Monday morning quarterback wants to inject all manner of issues into the discussion that aren't relevant.
    1) The lady had been ordered to stop while police conducted an investigation and she refused.
    2) One cop has properly placed himself in front of the car to prevent her from leaving since she is not complying.
    3) When she tried to leave and nearly ran over the cop deadly force was indeed justified. First to protect the cop's life, and second to protect the lives of other people since clearly the lady didn't care who she ran over at that point.
    4) The crime she committed is not very relevant; the cops were trying to investigate and determine what, but the lady wasn't cooperating in any way. Simple shoplifting is hardly a crime worth killing but that isn't what got the lady killed, is it? Vehicular homicide was that crime.
    5) We can always do hindsight and find better ways of handling this kind of situation. For starters, blocking the lady with a cop car, assuming she would stay still long enough. Beyond that, not much different was reasonable based on the body cams. Course, Monday morning quarterbacks can create any number of scenarios and "coulda woulda shoulda" ideas that do not help sort this out.

    The police will conduct a detailed analysis of everything the cops did, from first dispatch to the bitter end and they will be extra critical of each officer's actions. That's what cops do, you see. They don't want to shoot anyone and they want to all go home at night.

    Not that the American hating despicables want that. Chaos and lawlessness is their goal.
     
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    Hey stumbler, why didn't you bring up the video?

    <iframe width="660" height="371" src="" title="Video shows moments before police shoot and kill a retired Marine" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Surprised you didn't edit this part out of your copy N paste job;

    "The complaint has gone to federal appeals court twice, where it currently resides. A jury previously ruled in favor of Carelli, the now-former White Plains cop who shot him, regarding his use of force against Chamberlain. However, a second trial for a separate claim was still pending before the settlement."​

    No matter. Shooter will just point out that when cops respond to an aid call, which this was, they cannot leave until they see for themselves that everything is OK. An agitated man waving a butcher knife through a barricaded door does not qualify. And as we've pointed out before, if a man with a knife can get within 10 feet of you, you're already dead.

    This thing went on for an hour before police finally broke into the apartment. Plenty of time for this Viet Nam vet and hero to simply put down the knife and open the door.
     
  4. stumbler

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    So the police had to kill a pregnant Black Woman.

    But why didn't they have to kill this White man?



    Harris would eventually be confronted by Ambridge police and would point his gun at the officer on the scene. The officer called for backup and, with some assistance, managed to arrest Harris, who now faces several charges, such as aggravated assault and terrorist threats.



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    Police officers received a criminal complaint at 9 a.m. that morning about the incident between the two women and Harris and went to investigate.
     
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      You have serious reading comprehension problems. I simply pointed how differently White and Black people are treated by police.
       
      stumbler, Sep 20, 2023
    3. Sanity_is_Relative
      Try again because people are treated differently based on how they act when approached by police, it has nothing to do with race. Remember dip shit I am a minority and I am LGBTQ so I should be getting discriminated against more than most but I get the idea that when I deal with law enforcement I have to do so with respect because if I do not everything will go from bad to "oh shit" real fast. Maybe teach the wannbe thugs how to act around authority figures before trying to pull that old racism rabbit out of that worn out hat.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Sep 21, 2023
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    And lets remember tragedies like Columbine school and Uvalde.
    The Monday Morning quarterbacks shout and twirl that the cops "should have done something!!" Fine. They should have, in hindsight, gone in guns blazing.

    But of course, they would then be subject to the MMQ brigade criticizing their actions and claiming they just wanted to kill black people.

    Law and order isn't the goal of American hating despicables. Chaos and lawlessness is.
     
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    I guess American tyres are bulletproof huh ,
    and
    of course you couldn't possibly shoot out American car windows and windscreens without executing the driver .

    Also , obviously the best place for an American cop to stand while talking to an otherwise innocent driver , is in front of the car with a gun .

    After all , everyone knows American cops never execute suspects unnecessarily
    don't they ?

    I'm sure glad I don't live in America where I'd have to worry every day and every night if my family and friends will make it home without coming into contact with killer cops.

    and
    They never have any reason or need to own a gun.
     
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    Amazing ,
    over three years since I started this thread ,
    and nothing has changed really .

    Even with all the camera phones , surveylence cameras and social media etc that are everywhere nowadays ,

    There are still way to many shoot first killer cops who can't tell the difference between an actual imminent threat ,
    and a shit scared pregnant woman .
    (a double murder)
    (or a frightened innocent kiwi kid)
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. This thread went up when the cops murdered George Floyd And even though that resulted in a summer of protests from coast to coast not much has really changed. Police continue to kill unarmed Black people mostly with impunity.


    But while our treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans refuse to do anything about that on the national level states and in some cases even some individual police departments have implemented some reforms.

    It is far from enough, however, because its not police officers that need to be reformed. Policing in general has to change. And that needs to come from the national level.

    And the first thing is better screening for potential police officers. For the past few decades police departments have become magnets for White Supremacists, neo Nazis, racists, bigots, sadists, and especially cowards. Which is another huge problem. Cowards can be particularly drawn to police work because they think if they have a gun badge and club they won't be afraid anymore. When the opposite is true. Cowards are much more likely to panic and resort to deadly force. There is no place in policing for people like that and they must be screened out. Because killing people and especially Black people is more of a sport to them and they will use any excuse to do it. "I feared for my life" can be used for just about anything to justify a police killing.

    There also needs to be a national data base to track bad cops. Because right nhow they can be fired from one police department. And then just get hired by another one.

    Training also has to change. You hit the most important point. Right now police are allowed to shoot first and ask questions later claiming they thought someone had a gun or threatened them somehow. Which is why we see instance after instance of multiple officers firing like 90 shots hitting some unarmed person like 40 times. Everyone wants to get in on the fun. When it used to be a police officer had less rights to even pull their gun let alone fire it than average citizens. And that was because they were supposed to be professionally trained to handle situations and recognize actual threats instead of just perceived threats. We need to get back to that standard.

    And we also need to eliminate the immunity police officers have where they can't be personally sued for their wrongful acts. Police officers and even police departments and sheriff's offices don't care if they get sued because they don't have to pay for them. The taxpayers do. When if police officers knew they could be personally held liable they would think twice about their actions.
     
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      Well, that's pretty arrogant.
      Not surprising, but arrogant.

      first of all, @slutwolf, who told you your premise is valid?
      And second of all, who made you and @stumbler the final authority on the use of police force?
      As far as Shooter knows, neither one of you have ever had any law enforcement experience, save perhaps getting arrested.
      Do either of you have any education in law enforcement?
      Ever been trained in law enforcement?
      Ever actually done law enforcement?
      No?
      Then your posts are opinion only, subject to discussion, and cannot in any way be considered authoritative, can they?

      Shooter has Appreciated the discussion, even the propaganda posted on every page of this thread, but when you start telling us that you are the authority on police force, and you're going to change how things are done, and the rest of us can shut the fuck up, you step over the line, get knocked off your high moral ground, and expose your stupid.
       
      shootersa, Sep 3, 2023
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    Given the quality of the politicians that Americans continually elect ,
    there's little hope for any meaningful change ,
    form the mindless three hundred years old ways and amendments etc ,
    which of course apparently can never be amended again.

    You know , you can't go against the National Rednecks Association.
    They the men.

    Besides , there's "Lootsa money"
    in people needing a personal armory
    "to protect" thier homes and families.

    You know , a few pistols and rifles , a couple of machine guns and machine pistols ,
    a sniper rifle or two , and a selection for the kids to practice with ,
    and something small for mums purse of course ,
    and then , if you want to go hunt some food ,
    you'll need a couple of hunting rifles to .
     
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    More MMQ brigade stuff.
    Pay attention, @slutwolf, Shooter is about to explain how cops are generally trained in the use of deadly force, and why.
    There's a reason why cops are trained to always "shoot to kill" and never fire warning shots or such nonsense.

    You see, a gun is a deadly weapon. That's what they are designed to do; kill things. Not put holes in "tyres". Not scare people. Guns have one function; kill.
    So;
    Cops are trained to;
    a) Never pull your weapon unless you are prepared to use it.
    b) Never aim at anything you are not prepared to kill.
    c) You do not EVER shoot to wound or fire a warning shot.
    d) If you do shoot, shoot until the threat is neutralized.

    Now, here's why cops are trained that way. A cop should only pull his weapon if he perceives a real and imminent threat to himself or others. A gun is not a "persuader". Cops don't fire warning shots because warning shots have a nasty habit of hitting something that isn't a threat. Shooting to "wound only" has a nasty way of turning fatal.

    Above all, if you aren't justified in shooting to kill, you are damn sure not justified firing warning shots or shooting just to wound. if you are justified in firing a warning shot or shooting just to wound, you are justified shooting to kill, and that is what you need to be doing. Remember, the standard is "real and imminent threat".

    If a cop doesn't think shooting to kill is justified, he has no justification to fire at all. Not one shot. Not a single one. Not in the air, not at a tire, not at the ground. Not a single shot.

    If a cop has justification to shoot, the threat is real, and imminent and there is no time for shooting to wound, or firing a warning shot.
    If a cop has a justification to shoot, shooting to kill is the only appropriate course. Shooting until the threat is stopped is the only appropriate course. If that means 15 shots and reload then by GOD there better be more than 15 casings on the ground.

    Now, if you don't want to get shot by a cop, it's actually pretty simple. Do what the cop says. If the cop says "get out of the car" get out of the car.
    If the cop says "get on the ground" then by all means, get on the ground. Now, you may think the cop has no "right" to tell you this stuff, and you might be right. But arguing with a cop, or ignoring the cop's orders, is against the law. It's either obstruction or interfering with a cop. And when you refuse to obey a cops orders, you can be sure of two things;
    First, sooner or later the cop gets his way. You are going to come out of that car, one way or the other. Sooner or later. Guaranteed.
    Second, Your day is going to be much more complicated if you argue. By getting on the ground, your clothes will get dirty and you'll be embarrassed. By refusing to get on the ground your clothes will get dirtier and you'll be more embarrassed and you're probably gonna get your ass kicked (figuratively, not literally. Behave yourself.) in the bargain.

    Now, does that mean cops can do whatever the fuck they want?
    Nope.
    They get sued all the time, for, you know, violating civil rights, and exceeding authority, and for brutality. So if you disagree with a cop, just do what they say, get a lawyer and sue the bastards. If the cop is wrong, you'll get money. Lots of money. And chances are, depending on the circumstance, the cop gets disciplined or even fired.
    Now, if you refuse to obey the cop and he's wrong you'll still get to sue (well, at least your family will get to sue in your name), but refusing to obey the cop didn't change any of that, did it? You still came out of the car, you still ended up on the ground, and in the worst case, you got your ass shot. In that scenario, you didn't get a dime. Your family did.

    So the moral of the story is, do what the cop says, even if you disagree, and let the attorneys sort it all out.
    Or, you can argue with the cop, ignore the cop, and maybe let God sort it all out.
     
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      Don't ya just love people that live in different country tell Americans how bad ours is. Like their cops do no wrong. :banghead:
       
      mstrman, Sep 3, 2023
    2. slutwolf
      Pay good attention shooter ,
      I have absolutely no interest in your bullshit excuses
      (or "explanations" ? )
       
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      So you don't want any view except your own cluttering up your brain.
      Got it.
       
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    Its the Monday morning quarterbacks that tickle Shooter.
    Second guessing and telling us all what coulda woulda shoulda happened and they only manage to expose their stupid more often than not.

    Remember when they came running to this thread to tell us breathlessly how the fucking pigs murdered Ma'Khia Bryant a couple of years ago? They were all outraged and twirling and stamping their feet until the body cam video came out and showed that "innocent" little Ma'Khia was stabbing another girl when she was shot. The MMQ brigade went silent, remember? slinking away to see could they find another shooting story to divert attention away from their stupid. And they never even bothered to say they made a mistake and jumped the gun (Pun intended). Not even an "oopsie" out of the brigade.

    But when Slutwolf goes off about our cops, Shooter is always reminded that Kiwi cops initially were formed to deal with the "Maori problem" and they did that will some real brutality. And since then they've had their investigations and reforms, and their dirty cops and brutal cops and their unjustified shootings and what not. Generally, Kiwi cops are considered good guys, but then they also have a pretty good PR department and because it's New Zealand and not America, the cops pretty much control the narrative.

    When a Kiwi cop tells someone to get out of the car, you can be damn sure, they either get out of the car or get taken out of the car.
     
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    'She had limited value': Seattle cop busted for mocking pedestrian killed by fellow officer

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    Bodycam footage released on Monday shows a Seattle, Washington cop "audibly laughing and joking on a phone call the day after an incident where a fellow officer had hit and killed a pedestrian with their patrol car," KIRO 7 reports.

    "The officer on the call is identified as Seattle Police Officers’ Guild Vice President Daniel Auderer. In it, Auderer can be heard talking about the incident where 23-year-old exchange student Jaahnavi Kandula was hit by Officer Kevin Dave," the outlet explains.

    KIRO 7 says that "shortly after saying 'she’s dead,' Auderer laughs and says 'it's a regular person,' referring to Kandula. He then says 'just write a check -- $11,000, she was 26 anyway, she had limited value.'"

    Per KIRO 7, "Auderer also mentions that Dave was 'going 50 [miles an hour],' stating how 'that's not out of control' for a trained driver. A report released in June revealed that Dave was actually traveling at 74 miles an hour in a 25-mile-an-hour zone while responding to a different call."

    KIRO 7 recalls that "Auderer had responded to the scene on the night of Jan. 23 to conduct a drug recognition test on Dave. According to the timestamp on the bodycam video, Auderer's phone call about the incident took place the following evening."

    Local residents expressed outrage to KIRO 7 about Auderer's conduct.

    "I think these people need to be investigated. This kind of behavior is not expected from a public servant. Especially in that moment," Shub of Seattle said. Another person added, "Like laughing is one, but those comments….they were even worse than the laughter."



    https://www.rawstory.com/she-had-li...-mocking-pedestrian-killed-by-fellow-officer/
     
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    Yes this is not about race but more about the ability of officers to arrest people for no reason or even make up lies to justify their bullshit for a POP, pissing off police charge. And yes this was decided by a federal judge after a man was arrested and held while they fished for a charge.
     
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    Yet again we see that refusing to obey an officers instructions can escalate things beyond reasonable.
    Here's the Harvard Law School summary of this case that is referred to above;
    TagTeam :: Eighth Circuit Says Cops Can Come With Probable Cause For An Arrest AFTER They’ve Already Arrested Someone - Techdirt. - Music and Digital Media (harvard.edu)

    Now, our victim was released after a couple of hours and filed his law suit.
    The thing is, if he'd simply complied from the beginning he'd still have been able to sue and wouldn't have had to spend hours in handcuffs and jail.
    And the outcome would have been exactly the same.

    Really. If you're contacted by the cops, just do what they tell you to and sue later.
    You never win arguments with cops.
    At least, not standing on the street you won't.
     
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      They had no reason to arrest him to begin with, there was no probable cause to start so he had no responsibility to do anything. This decision is dangerous to everyone because it means that now police can just arrest anyone without reason and take their time invent a reason that suits a narrative. That is dangerous because it says that an officer can effect an arrest on the boy his daughter is dating or just broke her heart and have time to imagine up a scenario to decide on the charges while he sits in jail for no crime depriving that person of their rights. You could be arrested for no reason only because a black cop does not like that you are white.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Sep 21, 2023
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      You are quite correct; we both see it is a bad decision. The point is, when confronted with an overbearing cop, arguing with them or refusing to obey their commands will not turn out well. The best course is to do as told, then contact the lawyers. There are plenty of lawyers willing to take on these local wanna be dictators and show them the error of their ways. And count on this; it only takes one or two decisions to get the power hungry out of their uniform. Care to know what happened to the cops who arrested Ernesto Arturo Miranda and how their careers went after the Warren court finished with them?

      You need to understand that cops don't want these dictators in their midst; gives them a bad name and makes their jobs harder. If they have an issue with some jackass that broke their daughters heart, they don't need to be in uniform to deal with it.
      Cops, you see, "know people". :)

      But yeah, how the court got to where it did is a mystery.
       
      shootersa, Sep 21, 2023
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      I have not had many encounters with the police where I was the one that was doing the bad and each time I was polite and did as asked because that is how I was raised, now I do know some people that were raised in big cities whose parents grew up that same way that do not have respect for any authority figure and they do have issues when stopped. As I said in the gun rights thread the real issue at hand is the people and how they learn to deal with the world. Those raised without respect for all things tend to be the ones that have the most issues, maybe to change the fact that our young act like entitled brats we need to just stop raising them to be entitled pussies.
       
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    There are multiple examples on this thread alone of people and especially Black people killed by police when they were trying to comply with theur orders. Or killed within seconds after police arrived.
     
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    And you're pleased to show us them, aren't you stumbler.
    Course, with some careful editing and propaganda play to make sure it fits your American Hating agenda.
    Ma'Khia Bryant had stabbed one girl and was about to stab her again when she was shot. Remember this story, stumbler? You howled your indignation over this tragedy until the part about deadly assault on Bryant's part came out, in body cam detail, and then you vanished, never to mention it again.

    We know what you do. You can't fool us.
     
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    We see that in California at least, the prosecutors have taken the American Hater's rants to heart. This vermin was in a drunken bar brawl, and the cop decided instead of taking him to jail, they'd just take him home. When they got there and the deputy took off the handcuffs this vermin hit the deputy over the head, got his gun away from him, and shot and killed him. Then he shot and killed a chaplain that was doing a ride along.

    And now the despicable fuckers in California are releasing this vermin, so, you know, he can kill someone else.

    Good job, despicable American haters.

    California murderer who shot deputy, killed chaplain at age 24 granted 'youth offender' parole (msn.com)

    California murderer who shot deputy, killed chaplain at age 24 granted 'youth offender' parole
    Story by Michael Ruiz •9h

    erek Eugene Pettis, a 24-year-old gang member, found himself handcuffed in the back seat of a squad car after a drunken bar fight in 1994, but the Los Angeles deputy who placed him there wasn't going to bring him to jail.

    Deputy Terrence Wenger, 31, and volunteer chaplain Bruce Bryan, a 39-year-old in the car on a ride-along, took Pettis home to sober up.

    Rather than thank them, Pettis hit Wenger over the head as soon as he was free from his handcuffs.

    "They took him home instead of taking him to jail, and that’s the hardest part to understand," Bryan's brother, Floyd Bryan, told Fox News Digital. "They dropped him off a block from where he lived, and when he got out he hit the deputy, grabbed his gun and shot him in the head."

    CALIFORNIA DA WHO FLOATED KEEPING GANG MEMBERS ACCUSED OF KILLING TODDLER OUT OF JAIL FACES RECALL BACKLASH

    Pettis received a sentence of life in prison with a chance for parole after 40 years, Bryan said. Now, after an update to state laws on "youth offender" status, Pettis has been granted parole more than a decade earlier than the family expected.

    Back on June 18, 1994, Pettis grabbed the gun from an unconscious Wenger and fired multiple shots at him, but only one struck – costing the deputy an eye. Then the killer turned on Bryan, who tried to flee.

    "He chased my brother, shot him in the back," Floyd Bryan said. "He had a vest on, so as he was on his knees trying to get up, he shot him again straight down between his shoulder there where there wasn’t a vest and killed him."

    Pettis on some level knew Bryan, according to his brother. He was in the same gang as another man who lived next door to where the ordained minister ran a youth mission for troubled young men and boys.

    Pettis, now 54, was captured, convicted and sentenced to life in prison. He first became eligible for parole in 2018 and was finally granted it at a Sept. 6 parole board hearing, records show.

    But under the original sentence, Pettis shouldn't have been eligible for another 11 years, the victim's brother said. State laws have been revised, raising the age of "youth offender" status several times over the past few decades, from 18 to 23 and now 26. The killer was 24 at the time, and the status has been applied retroactively, he said.

    "I just have a major problem with the law changes affecting people of this nature," Bryan told Fox News Digital. "This was a violent crime. This is the top of violent crimes other than maybe rape. Anybody who shoots anybody in law enforcement is really making a statement that they don’t care who they kill because if you’re going to kill law enforcement, you’re going to kill anybody."

    Furthermore, he said, deputies and prosecutors were banned from speaking at the parole board hearing.

    Under state law, the board's decision will go to Gov. Gavin Newsom for review, and supporters of law enforcement and the Bryan family are hoping he overrules it.

    "In all cases, the Governor carefully reviews parole cases to determine whether a parole grant is consistent with public safety," Newsom's office said in a statement. "This process can take up to 150 days. More information on the parole suitability process can be found here."

    "We’re going to call him a youthful offender? That is not what anybody intended," said John Lewin, a longtime deputy district attorney in Los Angeles County and a vocal critic of soft-on-crime progressive policies. "This is a guy who intentionally and violently executed a chaplain, who was begging for his life and was not even a police officer."

    Under one of those policies, put in place by Lewin's boss, District Attorney George Gascon, prosecutors are not allowed to be present at parole hearings or argue against the release of a convict.

    That puts a crippling burden on victims or their families who argue against release. Defense attorneys and members of the parole commission are all given access to the defendant's case file, including a psychological evaluation, Lewin said. Prosecutors would have that, too, if they were present, but family members don't.

    "Family members, they don’t have half the information, so it means that they can't make coherent arguments," he said. "In addition, you don’t have anybody who is up there representing the victims and representing society at large."

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    According to a memorial plaque at the Los Angeles Sheriff's Carson Station, Bryan earned the nickname "Chaplain of the Hood" because he spent so much time counseling youthful offenders on the hood of a squad car.

    "Chaplain Bruce was a full time service volunteer doing the work of God," the Carson Station said in a 2016 tribute to the slain minister. "He visited youthful offenders at juvenile detention facilities, opened his home to troubled men and participated in ride-alongs several times a week."

    Bryan ran a nonprofit halfway house for troubled juveniles out of his home, his brother said. He offered them jobs at a gardening business and helped them get back into school or find new careers.

    The Los Angeles Times reported shortly after his murder that he was engaged to be married when he died.

    "An individual who’s this cold-hearted, who is this brutal, this maniacal, we’re going to let him free?" Lewin added. "What happens when he gets mad at the next person?"

    As for Wenger, he lost an eye but survived after major surgery and returned to work at the sheriff's department until he retired years later.

    In a statement to the parole board published by the Los Angeles news site The Current Report, the survivor called the double shooting "extremely vicious, sadistic and cruel" and argued against Pettis' release. However, Bryan said he does not recall it being read aloud at the hearing.

    "How can we know this evil will not again erupt following a sudden outburst of anger on his part?" Wenger wrote. "It happened once, and there is zero guarantee it won’t happen again."

    Bryan is worried about the same thing, especially if Pettis falls back into his old vices.

    "I'm beside myself even talking about it," he said. "I really have a problem if he gets out and hurts somebody because it doesn’t take much to have a drink or do drugs."

    Original article source: California murderer who shot deputy, killed chaplain at age 24 granted 'youth offender' parole
     
    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      That is just fucked up, I will only speak for what I know of Texas, a conviction as a youthful offender means that they are under the age of 16 upon conviction and that classification ends at 18 when they are just another murderous, drug pushing, rapist loser that is counted as an adult, they lose the protections of the Youthful Offenders Program the day the hit 18 and get forced into general population. I do not agree with ever releasing anyone that kills anyone else just like I do not want rapists, child molesters, woman abusers, child abusers, terrorists, and executive types that rip off their clients, they all deserve the worst death possible. I will add to that that the corrupt cops, judges, politicians, gang members, human traffickers, and even shyster lawyers to those that should be removed from decent society forever.
       
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    Body cam catches white cop berating Black bystanders during takedown: 'Who runs these streets?'

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    September 21, 2023 3:15PM ET


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    Body cam footage captured a white Florida police officer taunting and cursing at a group of mainly Black bystanders during a narcotics arrest, the Tampa Bay Times reported.

    Officer Dukagjin Maxhuni, a 10-year-veteran, was issued a written reprimand by the Tampa Police Department and transferred to another division. But according to the head of the Hillsborough County branch of the NAACP, the incident showed abuse of the local Black community that's instilled in the police department.

    The video shows Maxhuni getting out of his cruiser and taking down a fleeing suspect with a kick. He then responds to some inaudible comments from bystanders who were on the scene.

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    “You f--king broke my glasses you piece of s--t,” Maxhuni said to the suspect, telling bystanders, "That was one hell of a flying knee from me, guys!”

    “You should have seen it, it was good. It’s on body camera, I’ll show it to you. It was awesome," he said.

    He then started following group of people who seemingly shouted in his direction.

    “Hey, hey, you’re not going to do anything,” Maxhuni said. “What are you gonna do?”

    “You wanna be a tough guy? Come talk to me now,” he said at another point in the video. “You little b--ch boy.”

    “Hey come stand up to me, I’m standing right here motherf---er,” Maxhuni said. “Motherf---ers, you should know who runs these f----ing streets, and it ain’t you all.”



    In a statement, the Tampa Police Department said Maxhuni violated the department’s standards of conduct and also violated “courtesy to the public” rules.

    “These actions and statements were in direct contradiction with the established tenets and mission of the Tampa Police Department,” the department said.

    Watch the video below or at this link.


    https://www.rawstory.com/tampa-cop-racist/
     
  19. toniter

    toniter No Limits

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    Maybe this will help with your, you know, writing habit
    How to Stop Saying “Um,” “Ah,” and “You Know”
    https://hbr.org/2018/08/how-to-stop-saying-um-ah-and-you-know
     
    1. crhurricane
      But em, I ah really, thought it, em would, ya know, help, ah to stop, ya know, em writing, em, ah, ya know. Em it don't, ya know, just saying.
       
      crhurricane, Sep 22, 2023
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  20. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Well whaddya know?
    Toniter got the point of the post and lacks any objective criticism of the relevant points.

    Course, as a card carrying despicable he cannot simply agree but must criticize something.
    So he criticizes writing style.
    Ok.
     
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    1. toniter
      Nice guys finish last, and sometimes get shot. It's still better to be a nice guy, especially for a cop. Just be careful, out there.
       
      toniter, Sep 22, 2023
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