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  1. ace's n 8's

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    You're right, ACA did not play a major factor in the decision of the voters.

    What did play a major factor , was the direction of in which this country was heading.

    The country did not want another leftist running this country towards socialism/communism/anti-constitutionalism.

    While also making the the bold statement, generally, since the implementation of ACA, the public is still opposing ACA.

    Even the social program Social Security was more widely accepted by people, than ACA is.
     
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  2. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Ace, slight disagreement here.

    What stumbles posted was correct only in regard to the liberal wish for a single payer system. While 58% of those polled might be inclined to want such a system, the 42% who do not were more motivated to fight harder to stop it.

    In my mind, there is little doubt that Hillary wanted exactly that and that it would probably have come to fruition if the Democrats won the White House and Congress.

    So from that perspective, the ACA did provide a strong stimulus to the conservative voter. On the other hand, the liberal voter is unmotivated by almost anything, except for registering for more handouts.
     
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    Agreed.

    It all boils down to one large concept, this nation is against the progressive's agenda.
     
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    ‘Explosive’ Newsweek story details how ‘Trump’s business ties are already jeopardizing US interests’

    Donald Trump is already cozying up to foreign dictators to boost his family’s real estate development company — even though he promised to focus on the public’s business instead of his own.

    Kurt Eichenwald details some of the shady ties Trump has cultivated and continued since his election last month in a bombshell Newsweek report published Tuesday that may have led the president-elect to postpone his promised news conference on his business dealings.

    “The president-elect vowed during the campaign to eliminate potential conflicts by severing ties to his company — yet, with only weeks to go until he takes the oath of office, he hasn’t laid out a credible plan,” Eichenwald wrote. “Trump’s sole suggestion to date — a ‘blind trust’ run by his children — would not eliminate the conflicts, given that the money generated would still go to his family. Moreover, such a trust would be anything but blind.”


    Trump on Dec. 2 called Rodrigo Duterte, president of the Philippines, who said the American endorsed his brutal massacre of suspected street criminals and drug addicts that has left an estimated 4,500 dead.

    The rest of the international community has condemned Duterte’s vigilante campaign — but the Filipino president says Trump invited him to the White House.

    “The Trump family has an enormous financial interest in keeping Duterte happy,” Eichenwald wrote. “Trump Tower at Century City in Makati, Philippines, is on the verge of completion, with potential buyers having placed deposits on at least 94 percent of the condominiums, according to Century Properties, the Trump Organization’s business partner there.”

    His sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, took part in a photo opportunity at the site during the presidential campaign, and their sister is selling some of her jewelry on the building’s website.

    “The Trump family has an enormous financial interest in Duterte’s deadly campaign,” Eichenwald reported. “Rooting out crime in the Philippines is good for the real estate values.”

    Trump agreed to put his name on the project in exchange for a multimillion-dollar payment up front, along with up to 25 percent of the developer’s revenue over a number of years.

    Jose E.B. Antonio, the head of Century Properties, was recently named by Duterte as the special government envoy to the U.S. — which means Trump will be discussing Southeast Asia policy with one of his or his children’s business partners.

    “The Trump family’s dealings in the Philippines will set off a constitutional crisis on the first day of Trump’s presidency, if anyone in the federal government decides to abide by the law,” Eichenwald wrote.

    Many have argued that Trump would violate the the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause — which prohibits office holders from accepting gifts or payments from foreign states — but Eichenwald said his conflicts in the Philippines go beyond that.

    “The man writing millions of dollars’ worth of checks to the Trump family is the Duterte government’s special representative to the United States,” Eichenwald wrote. “To argue that these payments will be constitutional if they are paid to the Trump children, and not to Trump personally, is absurd. This conflict demands congressional hearings, and could be an impeachable offense.”

    Even if Antonio is removed as envoy, Duterte hold immense leverage over Trump, according to Eichenwald.

    “Trump won’t simply forget that the Makati building exists, that the authoritarian Philippine president has the power to damage the Trump family’s financial interests there and that the protection of what is now a high-profile target for attacks is in Duterte’s hands,” he wrote.

    Trump’s curious call to Taiwan’s president, which upended decades of foreign policy precedent, could be tied to his family’s foreign business entanglements, Eichenwald wrote.


    A Taiwanese mayor revealed to The China Times that a representative from Trump’s company had visited the country to express interest in building a hotel near her city’s airport, and he also said Eric Trump would visit the island by the end of the year.
     
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    Good morning, kids. Not to put too fine a point on it but the Democrats and the institutional Left, aided and abetted by the GOP-wing of their uniparty, are attempting to overthrow the election and the will of the American people. If they succeed, I do not even want to contemplate the reaction. The only thing I can say is that they continue to not consider, as they have done now since July of last year, who they are dealing with: Donald J. Trump. I do not think he is going to just ignore this and let it happen. Anyway, have a better one and remain blessed.

    Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In The 1984 Elections

    March 10, 2015 By Sean Davis

    If these progressives want to know what actual treason looks like, they should consult liberal lion Ted Kennedy, who not only allegedly sent secret messages to the Soviets in the midst of the cold war, he also begged them to intervene in a U.S. presidential election in order to unseat President Ronald Reagan. That’s no exaggeration.

    According to Soviet documents unearthed in the early 1990’s, Kennedy literally asked the Soviets, avowed enemies of the U.S., to intervene on behalf of the Democratic party in the 1984 elections. Kennedy’s communist communique was so secret that it was not discovered until 1991, eight years after Kennedy had initiated his Soviet gambit:

    Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

    “On 9-10 May of this year,” the May 14 memorandum explained, “Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.” (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) “The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.”

    Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

    Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

    First he offered to visit Moscow. “The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA.” Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

    Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. “A direct appeal … to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. … If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. … The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.”

    Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time–and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism.
    You can read the full KGB memo detailing Kennedy’s secret letter and request for electoral intervention here.
     
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    NY Times Hires Reporter Who Sent Stories to Hillary Staffers for Approval


    12/12/16

    In a hire that will shock no one who knows anything about the New York Times and the mainstream media generally, a Politico writer whom WikiLeaks exposed as sending stories to Hillary Clinton staffers before publication has been hired by the Times to cover the White House, the Daily Caller reported Monday.

    “We’re thrilled that Glenn Thrush is joining The Times,” said Elisabeth Bumiller, The Times’ Washington bureau chief. “He’s a premier political journalist, a master of breaking news and long-form story telling and a stellar addition to our White House team.”

    He is also, as he described himself in an email to Hillary’s campaign chairman John Podesta, a “hack.”

    “No worries Because I have become a hack I will send u the whole section that pertains to u,” Thrush wrote to Podesta in an April, 2015 email. “Please don’t share or tell anyone I did this Tell me if I fucked up anything.”

    As the Daily Caller notes,
    Thrush’s email included five paragraphs of a story pertaining to Podesta, and Podesta replied to Thrush telling him there were “no problems” with the writing. Those paragraphs appeared in a May story “Hillary’s big-money dilemma.”

    Clinton’s campaign Jennifer Palmieri also got to look over Thrush’s writing. In another April 2015 email, Thrush wrote, “pls read asap — the [Jennifer Palmieri] bits — don’t share.” This email included eight paragraphs of uncritical writing on Palmieri.

    Palmieri forwarded Thrush’s email to Podesta and campaign manager Robby Mook among other staffers, and said, “He did me courtesy of sending what he is going to say about me. Seems fine.”

    The portions Thrush emailed Palmieri ended up mostly unchanged in the column “Quiet, please. Hillary’s running.” That story includes the line, “Palmieri (who laughed off a request to participate in this story) enjoys a good relationship with reporters.”
    WikiLeaks also released emails which revealed Thrush's left-leaning bias:

    In an August 2015 email chain, the Politico reporter asked Podesta if he had seen a report that Clinton had secured the support of more than 400 superdelegates and if the report is true. Podesta responded “yes,” and Thrush said, “I’m glad!”
    The reporter wasn't especially discreet about his political leanings on Twitter, either, suggesting President-elect Donald Trump is a racist. After retweeting someone who wrote, “so black people are to blame because they oppose a racist? It’s the voters fault and not the candidate’s? Ok,” Thrush wrote “exactly.”

    The Daily Caller has even more:


    During Trump’s speech accepting the Republican nomination, Thrush wrote, “Your assessment of the quality of Trump’s speech is entirely dependent on how low you set the bar.”

    Then in September, he said, “Dems having a hard time accepting: a clear majority of white Americans are aware of Trump’s racist/xenophobic comments and back him anyway.” Outside of disdain for Trump on Twitter, there is plenty of love between Thrush and the Clinton campaign.

    Thrush wished a happy birthday Monday to former Clinton deputy press secretary Jesse Ferguson and Clinton’s former spokesman Brian Fallon gave his endorsement after the news of Thrush’s hire. “If journalism is last line of defense in fight to hold Trump accountable, I’ll take my chances [with] combo of [Maggie Haberman] & [Glenn Thrush] at NYT,” Fallon wrote.

    Following Trump's election, the Times’ public editor wrote that the paper will be making a conscious effort to not be “an echo chamber of liberal intellectualism.”
    So much for that promise.
     
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    Irksome Couch Bitch Screeches for Trump to Resign Before Being Inaugurated.


    Behar: ‘Isn’t It Time’ for Trump to ‘Step Down’ — or Do We Wait Until the Hammer and Sickle Is on the U.S. Flag?


    12/10/16

    Monday on ABC’s “The View,” co-host Joy Behar decried President-elect Donald Trump’s criticism of the CIA for alleging the Russian government had acted to Trump’s benefit to influence the outcome of last month’s presidential election.

    Behar suggested Trump step down as president-elect before inauguration for the good of the country.

    “It’s like they are discrediting the CIA,” she said. “His campaign and he, the president-elect of this country is discrediting the organization that basically protects us from foreign invasion, from, you know — isn’t it time for him to step down I mean, he has to step down before the inauguration, before they give him the nuclear codes. We are at risk when the president of the United States is fighting with the CIA. That is a terrible thing.”

    “Do we have to wait until the hammer and sickle is on the American flag until we stand up to this guy?” she added.
     
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    Here is what I think of Newsweek these days.....

    All your sources have shit in their own britches.....

    They are no longer reporters of the news...

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      And yet, the cover of Trump that they SWORE had been produced never materialized. Things that make ya go, "hmmmmmm.."
       
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    Anyone worried about Trump & Putin need only look back a couple of years to when Blowbama was telling Medvedev how much he wanted to be Putin's flexible back-seat bitch!

     
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    You are tripping yourself up again Ace. Everybody already knows another one of your favorite tricks is to try and misdirect any truly damaging information about y9ur clients by posting something that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted. Its one of your classic moves.
     
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    Poor Stumbles. Isn't it past time for your next shovelful of depressants?
     
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    You are only bullshitting yourself here Ace.

    Watch Bernie Sanders convince a Trump voter she voted for the wrong person — in less than 2 minutes

    uring a MSNBC town hall in Kenosha, Wisconsin — labeled “Trump Country” by host Chris Hayes — Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) calmly walked a Trump voter through GOP plans to gut the social safety net after she insisted that no one listened to small town voters like herself.

    Introduced earlier as Gail Sparks, who claims she skipped voting in 2012 but voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted change, the woman first complained about undocumented immigrants — calling them “those people” — taking jobs where she worked, which she claimed depressed her own pay.

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    With several panelists disregarding Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric and wild claims, saying Congress would reel him in, Sparks brought up the social safety net and questioned who is paying for it in the long run.

    “Who’s paying for this? Who’s paying for the Medicaid? Who’s paying for the Social Security? Who’s paying for the Medicare?” she asked rhetorically. “Now, have any of you seen down on the streets that it seems as though we have become the silent minority and not the majority?”

    Asked by host Hayes who she was talking about, Sparks replied, “The people who need the Medicare, the people who need the Social Security, who need the help with the education.”


    That was when Sanders stepped in.

    “Good point. Let’s see if we can go forward on this,” Sanders began. “I am assuming that you believe, correct me if I’m wrong, that we should not cut Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid. Is that correct or not?”


    “Yeah, I believe they shouldn’t be cut,” Sparks replied.


    “Do you know who is now working very hard to try to do that?” Sanders told her. “Republicans in Congress have a plan under the guise of saving Medicare and saving Social Security, making devastating cuts. That’s what the Republicans are now trying to do.”


    “The other point that you made is, who is going to pay for this stuff?” he continued. “And that is a very fair point. What all of us should know is that over the last 25 years, there has been a massive transfer of wealth in this country from you to the top one-tenth of one percent. In other words, the middle class has shrunk and trillions of dollars have gone to the top one-tenth of one percent. Do you think it’s inappropriate to start asking those people to pay their fair share of taxes so we can adequately fund Medicaid and make public colleges and universities tuition-free. Is that an unfair thing to ask?”


    After a pause, Sparks replied, “I don’t think it’s an unfair thing to ask. They got rich off of us, so it’s time they put back.”


    “Okay, that’s what I’m saying,” Sanders replied.
     
    1. tenguy
      Fallacy in your opening remarks.

      Sanders did not convince a Trump voter that they voted for the wrong guy, what he did convince them of is that Sanders party chose the wrong candidate. If he was the Democrat's candidate he likely would have beaten Trump.

      Trump was opposed by the rank and file Republicans on Capital Hill, to assume that what they are doing today is what he will sign on to is pure unadulterated conjecture.
       
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    We both know you are practically incapable of ever admitting when you are wrong but this statement is easy proven wrong and a feeble attempt at misdirection.

    That is obviously not my statement. That is simply a headline to the story.

    And it has nothing to do with candidates. What the story proves is the majority of Americans support the liberal/progressive agenda, especially when it comes to our social safety net like Social \Security, Medicare, and Medicaid but because of right wing false propaganda do not realize it is the Democrats trying to preserve those things while the Republicans want to drastically cut them or do away with them entirely.

    Very careless on your part tenguy but typical of how you react when you are butt hurt.
     
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      So you didn't post that?

      Who is using your user name?

      And if, as you posted, Sanders convinced someone that they voted for the wrong candidate, why is it not about the candidates???

      You're slipping into the putz mode again.
       
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    There are two things I really like about this story. One is it just nails Trump for using his business interests to dictate US foreign policy before he even takes office. And it exposes how he uses his children to infiltrate between Trump and foreign governments.

    But the other thing I really like about this story is it sets up a future test to see how corrupt Trump might be when it comes to using the presidency for his own greed and profit. And that test is the president of Turkey has arrested Trump's business partner. And at the same time is demanding the US extradite a cleric they claim was involved in the attempted coup. The US at this point has refused extradition. But if Trump reverses that we know its because Turkey is holding his business partner.

    How Donald Trump's Business Ties Are Already Jeopardizing U.S. Interests

     
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    Federal Agency Warns Trump He Must Give Up DC Hotel Before Inauguration

     
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      Several experts on ethics rules and government contracting have argued that the provision limiting involvement of public officials in the lease effectively bars Trump from benefiting from it in any way once he takes office. However, other experts said the wording of the clause – in particular the use of the word “admitted” – could be interpreted to bar Trump from acquiring any interest in the project after becoming president but not to retaining a stake he already has.

      It’s also unclear what could or will be done to force Trump to divest. It seems unlikely GSA would sue a sitting president or his company. Outside parties may lack legal standing to press a lawsuit over the issue, although one of the other firms that sought the lease might be in a position to do so.
       
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    Well sure RandyKnight as we have already proven mupto9ple times now no ethics, rules, regulations, laws or even the Constitution of the United States of America apply to Trump. Because you guys don't give a shit about the United States of America and never did. All you guys care about is power and just as long as your guy won you will make up any excuse in the world for anything and everything he does up to and including selling the United States of America out to Putin and Russia.
     
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      hehehe....

      sure you are not talking about Obama/Clinton?
       
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    No and you either know or should know this is total bullshit. I criticized both President Obama and Hillary Clinton many times on this forum and didn't make up phony excuses for them when I thought they were wrong.
     
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    I never saw you criticize either of them.....
     
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    You are obvi0usly too blinded by your own partisanship to even look.

     
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      this is what you call being critical....

      you sir have lost it....
       
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    Come now, Randy.

    Sure he has criticized his idols.

    Don't you recall when Stumbler expressed disappointment that Obama failed to round up all the Teabaggers and gas them?

    And don't you remember when Stumbler ripped the Clintons for neglecting to rub out the judges who ruled on Citizens United?

    Clearly the left fascists could have done a much better job of crushing dissent. There's plenty of blame to go around, and it goes all the way to the top.
     
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