Chinese warship seizes underwater US Navy drone which was operating in the South China Sea

Cy@xnxx · Dec 17, 2016

clarise said: ↑

It is certainly no exaggeration to say that Obama destroyed the Seventh Fleet.

U.S. force projection in the Pacific has dropped steadily ever since 2009, when Obama unilaterally abandoned the two front doctrine. China has an open court in the western Pacific, and it is all Obama's doing.

Trump won't fix it overnight. It will take a decade to rebuild.
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But it will get rebuilt hopefully

stumbler · Dec 17, 2016

Trump Spurs Scandal With Misspelled China Tweet

The first thing President-elect Donald Trump did on Saturday morning was send out a tweet escalating tensions with China. And he misspelled it. Senator Chris Murphy was one of many left dismayed by the tweet, linking to it with the caption, “This is madness. A 7:30am Saturday escalation of diplomatic crisis w China via Twitter, w misspelling.” In a comment about China seizing a U.S. Navy drone in the South China Sea, Trump called the stunt an “unpresidented act,” a misspelling blunder that overshadowed the actual content of the tweet. It took Trump and his team more than an hour to correct the spelling to “unprecedented.” The full comment read, “China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters - rips it out of water and takes it to China in unprecedented act.” While the spelling got more attention than the tweet itself, Trump’s commentary serves as a reminder that he’ll be taking office with some bad blood for China. Throughout his campaign, he repeatedly vowed to take Beijing down a notch for what he described as currency manipulations meant to damage the U.S. His recent phone call with Taiwan’s leader exacerbated tensions further, a fact which has caused concern in some diplomatic circles.
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stumbler · Dec 17, 2016

‘Making words great again’: Internet ridicules Trump for Freudian ‘unpresidented’ complaint about China

resident-elect Donald Trump kicked off his Saturday morning complaining about the seizure of an American underwater drone by the Chinese only to have everyone ridicule him for coining the word “unpresidented” — which some called a Freudian slip.

Addressing the taking of the boat, Trump tweeted: “China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters – rips it out of water and takes it to China in unpresidented (sic) act.”

An hour and a half later, Trump or one of his minions deleted the unpresidential tweet — but not before it was screen-grabbed:

For people on Twitter it was off to the races — particularly after Trump defenders attempted to blame Trump’s illiteracy on auto-correct.

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Rixer · Dec 17, 2016

China said they will return the drone.

RandyKnight · Dec 17, 2016

Rixer said: ↑

China said they will return the drone.
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the last drone they returned was in pieces.....

but CNN says....

US says China will return underwater drone; Trump slams Beijing over incident

conroe4 · Dec 17, 2016

They will have a working copy of that drone in 2 weeks, then it will be returned.

I know those fuckers.

slutwolf · Dec 17, 2016

I'd be interested to know how the operators let the Chinese steal their drone.

That must be a rather embarrassingly interesting story.

Were they asleep ?
or out to lunch ?

I suspect it was just a stunt .
A bit of oneupyoumanship
I doubt they actually need it to copy it.
Probably already have.
just checking t see if they missed anything

RandyKnight · Dec 17, 2016

slutwolf said: ↑

I'd be interested to know how the operators let the Chinese steal their drone.

That must be a rather embarrassingly interesting story.

Were they asleep ?
or out to lunch ?

I suspect it was just a stunt .
A bit of oneupyoumanship
I doubt they actually need it to copy it.
Probably already have.
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China had a warship....USA was a warship vessel with the navy owned drone for charting sea bottom and ocean conditions...
(however I dont trust it was innocent knowing our fucking lying govt)

As the USA was bringing it back to surface China just came in and took it.....

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China also asked the U.S. to stop sending vessels and aircraft to the area, saying China firmly opposes such activities and that China will stay vigilant and take necessary measures.

The drone was seized while collecting unclassified scientific data about 57 miles northwest of Subic Bay near the Philippines in the South China Sea, which China claims virtually in its entirety, Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said Friday.

“It is ours. It’s clearly marked as ours. We would like it back, and we would like this not to happen again,” Davis told reporters. He said the drone costs about $150,000 and is largely commercial, off-the-shelf technology.

The USNS Bowditch, which is not a combat ship, was stopped in international waters Thursday afternoon and recovering two of the gliders when the Chinese ship approached, Davis said. The two vessels were within about 500 yards of each other. He said that the USNS Bowditch carries some small arms, but that no shots were fired.

According to the Pentagon, as the Chinese ship left with the drone, which is about 10 feet long, its only radio response to the U.S. vessel was, “We are returning to normal operations.”

stumbler · Dec 17, 2016

conroe4 said:

They're updating their software...

I know those fuckers...
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If you really know the Chinese as you claim here maybe you can tell me has the Chinese ever done anything like this before? If you are an expert on China you can tell me that can't you?

stumbler · Dec 18, 2016

conroe4 said:

I'm not telling you a damned thing, troll. Go away.
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I knew you were just bullshitting and I'm glad I called you on it.

Because actually China has done something like this a lot to exploit the tense transition time of US presidents. And this was even actually pretty tame compared to some of the others where our ship and crew were held for days or the time one of our military planes collided with a Chinese fighter.

And I know most of you won't because you don't really want to know anything but if you did you could learn a lot from watching this.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...sidential-transitions-to-test-us-835527235577

M4MPetCock · Dec 18, 2016

tenguy said: ↑

The situation in the South China Sea has been escalating for well over two years, it has been contentious for decades.

To suddenly say it's because Trump took a telephone call from Taiwan is ridiculous. However, I will grant that the implication of Trumps posture on foreign relations could easily give rise to even more heightened tensions.
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Come on now. Everyone knows the Chinese started building their fake islands in the South China Sea because of Trump's phone call.

And they've also decided to ignore the international court's ruling because of Trump's phone call.

And Chinese fighter jets have been aggressively buzzing US naval ships and reconnaissance planes because of Trump's phone call.

That's the only logical explanation, right? "Trump's fault."

So, it must be the only reason they stole our drone.

But Randy should lay off Obama. LOL

stumbler · Dec 18, 2016

M4MPetCock said: ↑

Come on now. Everyone knows the Chinese started building their fake islands in the South China Sea because of Trump's phone call.

And they've also decided to ignore the international court's ruling because of Trump's phone call.

And Chinese fighter jets have been aggressively buzzing US naval ships and reconnaissance planes because of Trump's phone call.

That's the only logical explanation, right? "Trump's fault."

So, it must be the only reason they stole our drone.

But Randy should lay off Obama. LOL
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Oh yeah sure Ace ....

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U.S. PLANE IN CHINA AFTER IT COLLIDES WITH CHINESE JET

By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL WITH DAVID E. SANGER APRIL 2, 2001

A United States Navy spy plane on a routine surveillance mission near the Chinese coast collided on Sunday with a Chinese fighter jet that was closely tailing it. The American plane made an emergency landing in China, and the United States said it was seeking the immediate return of the 24 crew members, all said to be in good condition, and of the sophisticated aircraft and all its intelligence equipment.

The midair crash occurred about 50 miles southeast of China's Hainan Island, in what American officials described as international waters. The EP-3E Aries II aircraft, which had taken off from an American air base in Okinawa, Japan, issued a Mayday call but managed to make an emergency landing on the island. The Chinese plane crashed into the waters below.

China's foreign ministry spokesman, Zhu Bangzao, said a search was under way for the pilot, and Chinese state television broadcast an angry statement on Sunday night saying that ''the U.S. side has total responsibility for this event.''

But Adm. Dennis Blair, commander in chief of the United States Pacific Command, said Chinese planes had become increasingly aggressive in tailing American military aircraft in recent months, even prompting the United States to register a protest. ''It's not a normal practice to play bumper cars in the air,'' he said.

In Washington, President Bush's advisers, finding themselves dealing for the first time with a sensitive military incident with the Chinese, went to some lengths to avoid ascribing blame. And instead, they immediately focused their attention on an airport in the city of Lingshui, on Hainan, where the damaged plane was sitting on the tarmac. Whether the crew members were still on board was unclear.

''The question now is do we have access to the crew, when do we get the crew back, and how do we get the aircraft back,'' said one administration official. ''This is going to be a test of everyone's ability to stay cool and work things out.''

The White House said diplomats from the American Embassy in Beijing, and other American officials based in China, were traveling to Hainan and would seek to escort the crew members out of the country and make sure the Chinese did not inspect or remove the equipment aboard the plane. It was not clear if the Americans erased any data they had collected or sought to disable any of their equipment.

The incident comes at a particularly sensitive moment of transition in Washington's relations with Beijing. Within weeks, President Bush is to make a decision on whether to sell sophisticated arms and radar equipment to Taiwan, and how the two countries handle this incident may color the internal debate within the Bush administration over what kind of technology to provide to the Taiwanese.

Chinese officials, meanwhile, are likely to use the incident to take their measure of the Bush administration. They are already highly sensitive to what they believe is a tougher posture toward China -- one that views China as a military competitor first and a trade partner second.

Even before the Sunday incident, the first interactions between the new administration and Beijing's leaders have been difficult, marked by the recent defection to the United States of a high-level Chinese Army colonel, and China's detention of visiting American scholars.

Now, with a Chinese Air Force pilot missing and one of America's most sophisticated surveillance planes sitting lame on a tarmac -- a tempting intelligence bonanza for the Chinese military -- Mr. Bush and his Chinese counterpart, President Jiang Zemin, are faced with a new diplomatic tangle before they have even met.

''This has the potential to become a major international incident, especially if the Chinese try to examine what's on the plane or to make the crew get off,'' said David Shambaugh, an expert on the Chinese military at George Washington University. ''This is a sophisticated surveillance aircraft, and the last thing the military wants is the Chinese crawling all over it. It's loaded with electronic surveillance gear that can hear and see into the mainland.''

Already, China's rough and tumble Internet chat rooms -- always a sounding board for nationalistic sentiments -- were filled mostly with angry invective, but also calls to stay calm.

''Insist on pursuing the U.S. pilot for criminal responsibility,'' said one posting on the People's Daily Great Power Forum and ''Don't give the plane back -- it costs over $100 million to get one of these.''

Two years ago, after NATO planes accidentally bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, killing three, many Chinese believed that the act was deliberate and complained that President Jiang had not stood up to American aggression. That incident provoked angry rock-throwing demonstrations outside the American Embassy here, and was resolved with millions of dollars in reparations.

The details of what happened today, and why it happened, are sketchy. While there is little doubt that neither side intended for the spy plane and the Chinese fighter to collide, the two countries have increasingly been involved in a dangerous aerial cat-and-mouse game that has echoes of periodic incidents with the Soviet Union during the cold war.

While American officials say that Chinese ''chaser'' planes have recently gotten closer to American surveillance craft, it is unclear whether that is a result of a political decision from Beijing, a military decision by the Chinese Air Force or the judgments of Chinese pilots. And while it is unclear what caused the accident -- the Chinese said late Sunday that the American plane veered suddenly -- the EP-3 is a lumbering, slow-moving propeller plane that is significantly less maneuverable than a fighter aircraft.

Not surprisingly, the two sides seemed to be taking a different view of what happened high above the South China Sea.

Officials with the United States Pacific Command stressed that the plane, which took off from Kadena air base in Japan, was on a routine mission, no different from many others it has flown in the area. While they insisted the plane was in international air space, the American officials did not give the exact coordinates of the aircraft at the time of the collision.

While releasing few details, Cmdr. Rex Totty of the Pacific Command said the collision ''had the appearances of having been an accident'' rather than a provocation, noting that United States planes are sometimes tailed on missions near China. But he added: ''It is typically true than when military aircraft are shadowing they keep a sensible distance so that this sort of thing doesn't happen. But the Chinese do have a history of getting close.''

About a year ago, another EP-3 was trailed closely by Chinese jets off Zhejiang Province, although the Chinese jets ceased pursuit when the United States plane left the area, one expert said.

An American Embassy spokesman in Beijing said American officials had been in contact with the Chinese government throughout the day. The American ambassador to Beijing, Joseph Prueher, is no stranger to this kind of mission: he is a retired Navy admiral who once commanded the United States forces in the Pacific, and therefore had operational control over the spy missions off the Chinese coast.

Ambassador Prueher said on Sunday that ''it appears also the Chinese have lost an aircraft, and we're sorry that occurred.''

Ambassador Prueher has worked hard during the last two years to encourage better communications between the two militaries. He has won the respect of many in the Chinese military during his stay here, which is scheduled to end in a month. The contacts he has made in the Chinese military may now be put to the test.

Tonight, the Chinese side put responsibility for the collision firmly with the United States. ''Tailing and monitoring American military reconnaissance aircraft along China's coast belongs to proper aviation activity and is in keeping with international conventions,'' said Mr. Zhu, the Foreign Ministry spokesman.

The ''direct cause'' of the collision, he said, was that ''the U.S. plane violated aviation rules and suddenly veered toward and approached the Chinese plane.'' In the ensuing collision, the nose and wing of the United States plane had clipped the Chinese fighter, he said, adding that the Chinese had issued ''a stern representation and protests to the U.S. side.''

American officials said they had no information yet about the condition of the plane or whether the Chinese were respecting its ''integrity'' -- a euphemism for not going on board.

People who answered the phone tonight at Lingshui Airport, on Hainan's southeastern coast, refused to give any details about the plane or even to confirm that it was a military airport; it is not listed in directories of commercial flights.

Mr. Zhu said China was making ''appropriate arrangements for the 24 crew members of the U.S. plane,'' which he said had ''entered Chinese airspace without permission and landed on a Chinese airfield.''

It was unclear if Mr. Zhu was suggesting that the plane was in Chinese airspace at the time of the collision or merely that it had entered Chinese airspace ''without permission'' in order to make its emergency landing.

China claims ownership of scattered islands in the South China Sea, and Chinese maps all carry a series of dark red bars around the sea, suggesting that it is part of China -- although Chinese officials have denied that interpretation of the country's boundaries. China has been engaged in a longstanding dispute with the Philippines over the Spratly Islands, more than 100 miles from China, as a result of such claims.

But international conventions state that territorial waters and airspace extend only 12 miles from land. As a matter of practice, foreign vessels and aircraft, whether military of commercial, generally operate freely in the South China Sea.

The incident is a potentially damaging one to relations for both sides.

While the Clinton administration carefully cultivated military-to-military ties with the Chinese and for a time called Beijing a ''strategic partner,'' a phrase that was later dropped, the Bush administration has said that it will treat China more as a competitor.

In the next few weeks President Bush is expected to make a decision on whether to sell Taiwan sophisticated weapons to buttress defenses on the island, over which Beijing claims sovereignty.

These include a ship-borne radar system, called the Aegis, that China fears could be used not only to help protect Taiwan but also as part of an American-designed ''theater missile defense'' that is ostensibly aimed at nations like North Korea. But China fears that it is also intended to undercut its small nuclear arsenal. Chinese leaders have expressed vigorous opposition to both the antimissile system and the possible Aegis sale, and suggested that they would react by building up their offensive ability.

Under President Bush, who has a strong constituency among conservatives in Congress who are suspicious of China's growing power, the Defense Department put a freeze on planned military exchanges with China, pending review of their utility.

''We have routinized communication channels between the militaries, and now there's a even a hot line between the two leaders'' of China and the United States, Professor Shambaugh said. ''This is the time when we'll see if they've really built any 'mutual understanding and trust.' ''
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stumbler · Dec 18, 2016

Damn it I can't get the tweets to copy into this story. And its a damn shame because they are hilarious. But you can look it up on RAWSTORY.

‘Go to bed, Donald’: Twitter users ream Trump for suddenly telling China ‘Keep it!’ in drone dispute

On Saturday evening, Republican President-elect Donald Trump followed up his “unpresidented” tweet about China’s seizure of a U.S. unmanned research vehicle with another poorly-typed tweet that sent Twitter jokesters into overdrive.

“We should tell China that we don’t want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!” Trump posted after the final stop of his “Thank you” tour, which ended with a rally in Mobile, Alabama.

Apparently not content to provoke the Asian superpower with calls to the Taiwanese president, Trump has decided that passive aggressive Twitter meltdowns are the way to really wind China up.

freespiritx · Dec 18, 2016

M4MPetCock said: ↑

Come on now. Everyone knows the Chinese started building their fake islands in the South China Sea because of Trump's phone call.

And they've also decided to ignore the international court's ruling because of Trump's phone call.

And Chinese fighter jets have been aggressively buzzing US naval ships and reconnaissance planes because of Trump's phone call.

That's the only logical explanation, right? "Trump's fault."

So, it must be the only reason they stole our drone.

But Randy should lay off Obama. LOL
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Actually, it's Bush's fault!

Distant Lover · Dec 18, 2016

ace's n 8's said: ↑

Economic negotiations will also lower the national debt.
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I doubt it. The only thing to negotiate is restrictions on Chinese imports. That would raise consumer prices in the United States.

RandyKnight · Dec 18, 2016

Distant Lover said: ↑

I doubt it. The only thing to negotiate is restrictions on Chinese imports. That would raise consumer prices in the United States.
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There is a double side to that.....when prices rise too much people dont buy....
There is not a lot that Americans really need that they dont already have....

when prices rise then american products become competitive.....
if we dont make it now we can within a year....

ace's n 8's · Dec 18, 2016

stumbler said: ↑

‘Making words great again’: Internet ridicules Trump for Freudian ‘unpresidented’ complaint about China
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How does Obama pronounce ''corpseman''?, can you remind me about that again.....please?

ace's n 8's · Dec 18, 2016

Distant Lover said: ↑

I doubt it. The only thing to negotiate is restrictions on Chinese imports. That would raise consumer prices in the United States.
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You are the last person on this site that understand the free market, Capitalism, and how the economy actually works.

So, what I am really saying here is.......shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.

ace's n 8's · Dec 18, 2016

stumbler said: ↑

I knew you were just bullshitting and I'm glad I called you on it.

Because actually China has done something like this a lot to exploit the tense transition time of US presidents. And this was even actually pretty tame compared to some of the others where our ship and crew were held for days or the time one of our military planes collided with a Chinese fighter.

And I know most of you won't because you don't really want to know anything but if you did you could learn a lot from watching this.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...sidential-transitions-to-test-us-835527235577
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I watched about 4 and a half minutes of this Video, as she was struggling to talk, I couldn't help but to wonder, could she have a vibrator in her asshole?

RandyKnight · Dec 18, 2016

ace's n 8's said: ↑

I watched about 4 and a half minutes of this Video, as she was struggling to talk, I couldn't help but to wonder, could she have a vibrator in her asshole?
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She/it always talks like she is explaining things to a 7 year old.....
but then again her audience have the understanding of a 7 year old.....

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