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  1. Sanity_is_Relative

    Sanity_is_Relative Porn Star

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    12.2 million more people are now insured thanks to the ACA/PPA.
     
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      Forced to have insurance.
      The yapping about how 24 Million Americans will loose their insurance if Trump has his way includes about 12 Million who simply do not want or believe in insurance. Right or wrong, one must remember that ACA FORCED that group to buy something they did not want or believe in, and Trump's plan will let them decide for themselves.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
  2. conroe4

    conroe4 Lake Lover In XNXX Heaven

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    And my insurance premium went up 33.5 % to pay for the freeloading sonofabitches. You motherfuckers should pay your own way.
     
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      Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
       
      deleted user 777 698, Mar 16, 2017
    2. Rixer
      Mine was going up astronomically every single year before ACA. Nobody noticed because I was the only one paying it....
      Those who got their insurance provided never knew....
      Now they know.;)

      It's unaffordable.
       
      Rixer, Mar 16, 2017
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    deleted user 777 698 Porn Star Banned!

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    Absolutely true. For their own good. God forbid a calamity strike earth, governments vanish, chaos reigns, who survives? Certainly not the weak and unprepared...
     
  4. Sanity_is_Relative

    Sanity_is_Relative Porn Star

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    Let's look closer at some of the Executive Orders so far.
    The anti fuel consumption bullshit that supports the massive corporations, rolling back the Obama era regulations that increased fuel efficiency in automobiles, on the surface sounds like a good idea until you do the math. An average cost difference in a vehicle under Obama's rules and 2 years prior would be under $900 yet would save over $2500 in fuel in its 10 year life span. Less fuel used means less demand, less pollution, and lower costs.

    Then we go to the next proposal up before congress, the wonderful minds at the NRA want a law to make it illegal for the VA to release information about mentally unstable veterans to the law enforcement communities that might slow them from getting or stop them from getting a firearm when it is clear that they are not even capable of caring for themselves, well at least without a courts order.

    Seems like standard operating procedure.
     
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  5. xxxaddict76

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    Either way dipshit you are going to pay under ACA, Trumpcare, or no care. Tax credits are going to be handed out under Trumpcare. Even under Trumpcare, by 2026 you will have around 50 million without health insurance. Guess where they go? They will go to the ER for their treatment. Unable to pay, guess who foots the bill? Taxpayers do. This was the issue before ACA. Just where Republicans like this country to be.
     
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      I ended up with a $2,000 bill for a hernia operation last year because the costs for the doctor and hospital were that far above "reasonably and customary."

      And why is that? Its because my state refused to expand Medicaid under the ACA and the hospitals and doctors are having to charge far more to try and cover the costs of uncompensated care. In other words paying for the people who show up at the emergency room with no possible way to pay for their medical care.
       
      stumbler, Mar 16, 2017
  6. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    this all could have been done by expanding Medicaid.....

    Obama expanded every other social program...
    food stamps
    unemployment benefits
    welfare..
    refugee assistance
    public schools
    free phone service

    the idea was a new healthcare system that fails so the Govt would own a large part of the economy..
     
    1. Rixer
      If I'm not mistaken, it was the states themselves that are responsible for that. That's why some people had such high payments. Because someone qualifies for Medicaid in one state, it does not mean they will qualify in another.
       
      Rixer, Mar 16, 2017
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      Rixer ole buddy there just may not be an answer unless we can abolish greed some how...

      thanks for your sensible reply....

      I hate doctors and insurance companies...
      some nurses are a lot of fun....
       
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      The healthcare industry has gotten out of control. We can argue whose fault it is until the cows come home... What can be done about it?
       
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      That is some common ground everyone should unite on. It's complicated and needs participation from all factions. It concerns us all and we need to admit it's a problem.
       
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      Absolutely! We must fight elitist power brokers that desire to keep us divided for their own evil purposes. Healthcare is extremely important to all...
       
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  7. shootersa

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    Oh lets don't cherry pick. Lets see all of his executive orders;
    President Donald Trump has spent his first days using his executive authority to rewrite American policy and undo a string of decisions made by former president Barack Obama. Here’s a running list of the new president’s executive actions:

    1. Providing “relief” from the Affordable Care Act (January 20)
    Trump’s first executive order on Inauguration Day involved “minimizing the economic burden” of the Affordable Care Act. This order allows the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the heads of other departments and agencies to waive or delay the implementation of any ACA provisions that would impose a financial burden or any state or a regulatory burden on any individuals.

    2. Freezing all regulations (January 20)
    Trump froze all pending regulations until they are approved directly by his administration or by an agency led by Trump appointees. The action, given in a memorandum from White House chief of staff Reince Priebus, delays all regulations with the exception of health, safety, financial or national security matters allowed by the Office of Management and Budget director.

    3. Reinstating the “Mexico City” abortion policy (January 23)
    The president reinstated the so-called “Mexico City Policy”, which blocks the use of U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund foreign non-governmental organizations that perform or promote abortions. It was established by former president Ronald Reagan and has been rescinded by Democratic presidents and reinstated by Republican presidents ever since.

    4. Scrapping the Trans-Pacific Partnership (January 23)
    Trump’s next executive action withdrew the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which former President Barack Obama negotiated with 11 other pacific nations. The deal was never ratified by the Senate, so it had not gone into effect. Instead, the Trump administration says it plans on negotiating bilateral deals with individual nations.

    5. Freezing the federal workforce (January 23)
    Trump issued a presidential memorandum Tuesday that prohibits government agencies from hiring any new employees, effective as of noon on January 22. The order does not apply to military personnel and the head of any executive department may exempt positions that include national security or public safety responsibilities.

    6 & 7. Advancing the Dakota Access and Keystone XL Pipelines (January 24)
    Trump’s next actions encouraged the construction of two controversial pipelines, the Dakota Access Pipeline and Keystone XL Pipeline. The DAPL action instructs an expedited review and approval of the remaining construction and operation of the pipeline by the Army for Civil Works and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. The Keystone XL action invites TransCanada, the Canadian energy company behind the pipeline, to re-submit its application for a presidential permit to construct the pipeline. It also instructs the Secretary of State to reach a final determination within 60 days.

    8. Expediting Environmental Reviews on Infrastructure Projects (January 24)
    Trump issued an executive order to streamline environmental reviews of high-priority infrastructure projects. The action states that infrastructure projects in the U.S. “have been routinely and excessively delayed by agency processes and procedures.” The action instructs the Chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality to create expedited procedures and deadlines for environmental reviews and approvals for high-priority infrastructure projects.

    9. Promoting “Made-in-the-USA” pipelines (January 24)
    This memorandum instructs the Secretary of Commerce to create a plan for pipelines created, repaired or expanded in the United States to use materials and equipment produced in the country “to the maximum extent possible.” It establishes that all steel and metal used in such pipelines be completely produced in the United States, from the initial melting stage to the application of coatings.

    10. Reviewing domestic manufacturing regulation (January 24)
    Trump issued an action that instructs the Secretary of Commerce to contact stakeholders to review the impact of Federal regulations on domestic manufacturing. After the review, the Secretary of Commerce is instructed to create a streamlined Federal permitting process for domestic manufacturers.

    11. Increasing border security measures (January 25)
    Trump signed an executive order that directed the secretary of homeland security to:

    • Begin planning, designing and constructing a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, including identify available federal funds and working with Congress for additional funding
    • Construct and operate detention facilities near the border to make adjudicate asylum claims, subject to the availability of existing funding,
    • Hire 5,000 additional Border Patrol agents, subject to the availability of existing funding,
    • End “catch and release” policy
    • Quantify all “sources of direct and indirect Federal aid or assistance to the Government of Mexico on an annual basis over the past five years”
    • Take action to empower state and local law enforcement to act as immigration officers
    12. Pursuit of undocumented immigrants (January 25)
    Trump signed an executive order that directed the secretary of homeland security to:

    • Prioritize certain undocumented immigrants for removal, including those with criminal convictions and those who have only been charged with a crime
    • Hire 10,000 additional immigration officers at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, subject to the availability of existing funding,
    • Prohibit federal funding, with the help of the attorney general, to “sanctuary” jurisdictions, where local officials have declined to help enforce federal immigration laws
    • Reinstate the Secure Communities program, which was terminated in 2014 and enables state and local law enforcement to effectively act as immigration agents
    • Sanction countries, with the help of the secretary of state, that refuse to accept the return of undocumented immigrants deported from the U.S.
    • Create a list, updated weekly, of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants in sanctuary jurisdictions
    • Create an “Office for Victims of Crimes Committed by Removable Aliens” to “provide proactive, timely, adequate and professional services to victims of crimes committed by removable aliens and family members of such victims”
    13. Reevaluating visa and refugee programs (Signed January 27, Rescinded March 6)
    Trump signed an executive order on a Friday evening, setting off a chaotic weekend at airports as officials did not know how to interpret the order. It was blocked by the courts and rescinded on March 6 when Trump sign a revised order.

    14. Strengthening the military (January 27)
    The president on Friday issued a presidential memorandum directing the secretary of defense, James Mattis, to conduct a review on the military’s readiness in the next 30 days and develop a budget for fiscal 2018 capable of improving the “readiness conditions.” He also directed Mattis to complete a National Defense Strategy and to review the country’s nuclear capabilities and missile-defense capabilities

    15. Reorganizing the National Security Council (January 28)
    Trump signed a memorandum Saturday that reorganized the National Security Council, with the goal of making it more digitally-focused, as POLITICO previously reported. Part of the order allows some of the president’s staff, including chief of staff Reince Priebus and White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, to attend any NSC meeting, and widens the ability of appointees close to Trump to attend NSC meetings.

    16. Implementing a lobbying ban (January 28)
    This executive order bars “every executive appointee in every executive agency” from engaging in “lobbying activities with respect to that agency” for five years after leaving the agency. It also bars them permanently from lobbying for any foreign government or political party.

    17. Defeating ISIS (January 28)
    This memorandum instructs Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to create a plan to defeat ISIS and submit it to the president within 30 days. The plan must include a comprehensive strategy for defeating ISIS, changes to the rules of engagement, strategies to de-legitimize “radical Islamist ideology,” a plan for cutting off ISIS’ financial support and identification of new partners for the fight against the terrorist organization.

    18. Reducing regulations (January 30)
    This executive order requires any executive department or agency that proposes a new regulation to identify two regulations to be repealed. For fiscal 2017, it instructs that the total incremental cost of all new regulations and repealed regulations be no greater than zero. For fiscal 2018, the director of the Office of Management and Budget is required to issue for each agency a maximum total cost of all new regulations and repealed regulations for the fiscal year. No agency is allowed to issue a regulation whose costs exceed that maximum, “unless required by law or approved in writing by the Director.”

    19. Regulating the financial system (February 3)
    This executive order lays out a series of principles for regulating the financial system including promoting U.S. corporations’ ability to compete with international companies; to foster economic growth, prevent taxpayer-funded bailouts; and to make regulation efficient. It also instructs the secretary of the treasury to consult with the heads of the member agencies of the Financial Stability Oversight Council and report to the president within 120 days on how current laws and regulations promote those principles.

    20. Rethinking Obama’s fiduciary standard (February 3)
    This memorandum instructs the department of labor to review the Obama administration’s “Fiduciary Rule,” which required financial advisers to serve the best interests of their clients.

    21. Preventing violence against the police (February 9)
    This order instructs Attorney General Jeff Sessions to develop strategies for the Department of Justice to use existing federal laws or recommend new legislation to prosecute individuals who commit crimes against law enforcement officials.

    22. Creating a task force to reduce crime (February 9)
    This executive order instructs Sessions to establish a task force to discuss crime reduction ideas, identify “deficiencies” in current laws and evaluate the availability of crime-related data.

    23. Combatting transnational criminal organizations (February 9)
    This order aims to increase communication and coordination among different agencies relating to international criminal organization and create a strategy to disrupt these organizations. It also directs the Threat Mitigation Working Group to submit a report to the president within 120 days on transnational criminal organizations.

    24. Enforcing regulatory reform (February 24)
    This order instructs each federal agency to designate an official as its Regulatory Reform Officer within 60 days of the order. These officers would oversee the administration’s regulatory reform policy laid out in previous executive orders within their agency.

    25. Reviewing the Waters of the U.S. Rule (February 28)
    This executive order instructs EPA administrator Scott Pruitt and the assistant secretary of the army for civil works to review President Obama’s 2015 Clean Water Rule that added protections for streams and wetlands under federal clean water rules.

    26. Supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities (February 28)
    This order recognizes the importance of HBCUs and establishes an initiative in the Executive Office of the President to increase the role of the private sector in strengthening HBCUs and strengthen the connection between HBCUs and the federal government.

    27. Revising the travel ban (March 6)
    Trump signed an executive order Monday banning travel from six countries and suspending the U.S. refugee program for 120 days. The ban goes into effect 10 days from the signing of the order. It retools the earlier order that was blocked by the courts. The order:

    • Cuts the number of refugees allowed into the United States in fiscal 2017 from 110,000 to 50,000
    • Suspends for 120 days the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, which identifies and processes refugees for resettlement in the United States. It no longer bans Syrian refugees indefinitely.
    • Suspends the entry of nationals from Iran, Sudan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Syria for 90 days. This no longer includes Iraq and does not apply to nationals with current visas, dual nationals, legal permanent residents and people with diplomatic visas.
    • Directs the secretary of homeland security, the director of national intelligence and secretary of state to put together a list of countries that do not provide adequate information to vet potential entry of foreign nationals into the United States. Foreign nationals from those countries will be banned from entering the United States.
    • Directs the secretary of state, the secretary of homeland security, the director of national intelligence, and the director of the FBI to implement a uniform screening baseline for all immigration programs
    • It no longer directs the secretary of homeland security to “prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality.”
    • Directs the secretary of homeland security to implement a biometric entry-exit tracking system
    • Grants state and local jurisdictions, whenever possible a “role in the process of determining the placement or settlement” of refugees
    • Suspend the Visa Interview Waiver Program, which allows certain people renewing their visas to skip an in-person interview
    • Directs the secretary of state to expand the Consular Fellows Program
    28. Reorganizing the executive branch (March 13)
    This executive order instructs the Director of the OMB to propose a plan to reorganize the executive branch and eliminate “unnecessary” federal agencies and agency programs.
     
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      Looks good to me....
       
      RandyKnight, Mar 16, 2017
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      Just wait for it.
       
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  8. xxxaddict76

    xxxaddict76 Porn Star Banned!

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    So President Dipshit and his administration released their partial budget plan.

    You state you want to make America great again, but yet you want to cut/eliminate funding for services for those who need it. A lot of Trump voters and state governments where those Trump voters reside are fucked.

    Wait, thought Mexico was paying for the wall? Nope. The poor, disabled, and elderly are.
     
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    1. shootersa
      Give up.
      Trump is doing exactly what he said he'd do.
      You don't like it. Already knew that.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
  9. M4MPetCock

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    Nice try, Lyin' Libby. Trump-deranged ProgLibOcrats did in less than 6 months what it took conservatives to do in four years. (And that's not a success story.)

    These were created on March 7 and posted here.

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    obama threads.jpg
     
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    I saw that and SNL is changing a little.....
    Seth Meyers last night was making jokes about MadCow and the snowflakes.....
     
  12. Distant Lover

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    Don't wait for "a thread dealing with a happy subject in GD, Joe." Start one. Announce your next exodus.
     
  13. xxxaddict76

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    President Dipshit to the world, America and the bankrupt red states, go fuck yourself.

    I understand some things need eliminated, but I doubt this passes.

     
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      So. Which of these programs would you want to keep?
       
      shootersa, Mar 17, 2017
  14. stumbler

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    Oh non-fuck you RandyKnight.

    I ended up with a $2,000 bill for a hernia operation last year because the costs for the doctor and hospital were that far above "reasonably and customary."

    And why is that? Its because my state refused to expand Medicaid under the ACA and the hospitals and doctors are having to charge far more to try and cover the costs of uncompensated care. In other words paying for the people who show up at the emergency room with no possible way to pay for their medical care.
     
  15. justpassingthru

    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    I watched an extended interview with Nikki Haley today and like the way that she carries herself and wasn't goaded into slamming or defending Trump when confronted with questions about him. She simply replied that she can only speak for herself, sound advice that Conway should try LOL.

    This post is about the interview today so save the flaming from past indiscretions ...
     
  16. stumbler

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    Oh Fuck!! Trump's budget is almost as hilarious as his wiretapping lies.

    And both budgets and politics are actually really complex. And that's why the majority of Americans couldn't really realize how Trump's budget is going to just fuck them in order to give tax breaks to millionaires and the military/industrial complex.

    But do y0u know where they really fucked up? The vast majority of Americans can unde3rstand doing away with "Meals on Wheels." And they will not stand for that.

    And Trump's budget is dead on arrival.
     
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      So; what cuts he has made would you want to keep?
      And what would you cut to keep your cherished programs?
       
      shootersa, Mar 17, 2017
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      I would cut the military budget and raise taxes for the rich.
       
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    Let me get this right. Pence as Governor of Indiana produced and passed their own Medicaid expansion that was approved by HHS.

    Trumpcare wants to roll back expansion and block grant Medicaid.

    Funny how Pence is being a hypocrite about this.
     
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    Let's go one step further. Its looking like Flynn is going to end up being charged with felonies not just for his colluding with Putin/Russia but more importantly for lying about it on his security forms and violating military requirements.

    And here is Pence for about the third time saying he had no idea about any of it. Which is impossible because Pence was head of the Trump transition team which was directly and repeatedly informed of Flynn's illegal activity.

    So that dog won't only not hunt. That dog is going to bite Pence on the ass.
     
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    On a side note. Canadian PM Justin Trudeau and Ivanka Trump went to a Broadway play together.

    What is the over/under Justin tapped Ivanka's ass?

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    According to President Dipshit's Budget Director a single mom would rather spend tax money on an F-35 or a border wall than PBS for her child.

    Curious how in the fuck Karnack knows this?
     
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      Specious argument.
      Of course mommy wants PBS for little Suzy.
      And of course she doesn't want to pay for it.
      But let another 9/11 or Marine Barracks or Cole happen, and the American public would rightfully rise up in revolt.

      The Government's first job is security of the US.
      Trump is ultimately responsible for that.
      If he fails at that job, PBS and Big Bird are pretty much irrelevant.

      But either way, you will vilify Trump every day and in every way you can with or without any justification.
      Which puts you in the same category as Stumbler; you have no credibility and the assumption is that whatever you post is bullshit.
       
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      @shootersa. Paying for PBS or another F-35 is not going to stop another USS Cole or 9/11. Intelligence gathering prevents attacks, not military buildup. Of course President Dipshit gets all intelligence from Fox News. So we are fucked.

      You realize President Dipshit is playing a parlor trick with the budget. All the budget cuts are moving to military spending and wall. No savings whatsoever. Dipshit.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 17, 2017