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  1. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Baubles.
    Shiny baubles dropped along the way for unsupporters to gather round at glare at.

    No wonder Clinton lost.
     
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  2. stumbler

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    Trump--I will separate myself from my business

    I told you so that was total bullshit.

    First White House and Trump's son in law stands to make $400 million on a real estate deal with the Chinese.

    And now Trump is profiting off a real estate deal with a woman linked to Chinese military/intelligence.

    Chief of Chinese intelligence front group scrubs herself off the web after buying $15.8 million Trump penthouse

     
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  4. stumbler

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    Trump--I will be a full time president

    I am proving again I told you so that was total bullshit.

    Palm Beach may slap Mar-a-Lago with big tax to pay for ‘devastating’ cost of Trump’s weekend trips

     
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  5. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Trump--I will separate myself from my business interests


    That is getting to be more serious I told you so total bullshit with every passing day.

    Business is booming for the Entrepreneur-in-Chief Trump — and that’s suspicious

     
    1. shootersa
      You are doing a great job.
      Keep up the good work.
       
      shootersa, Mar 19, 2017
  6. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Eric Trump--No more deals over seas

    Well that's total bullshit.

     
  7. stumbler

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    Trump--I will bring coal jobs back

    Anyone not completely detached from r3eality could have told you so that was total bullshit.

    Two Ohio coal-fired plants to close, deepening industry decline

     
  8. M4MPetCock

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    Sierra Club - Don't bother. We're putting people out of work everywhere you look.

    Notice a familiar pattern in the pic below?

    sierra club suing everyone.jpg


    Environmentalists sue over a problem they helped create


    10/10/16

    Former Congressman: The Sierra Club's role in a lawsuit to close the Navajo Generating Station is beyond ironic.

    The Sierra Club has joined Earthjustice in suing the Environmental Protection Agency for agreeing to allow Navajo Generating Station to continue to operate, provided it closes one unit and installs haze-reducing equipment on the remaining two units, regardless of any measurable reduction in haze.

    These steps are not enough for the environmental groups. They want it closed. The irony is breathtaking.

    Although The Arizona Republic's front-page article ("Arizona's largest carbon footprint," Sept. 29) didn't mention it, Navajo Generating Station was authorized by Congress to make it possible for Arizona to move its share of Colorado River water into central Arizona.

    Congressional approval followed an intense 20-year struggle to build the Central Arizona Project and secure the electricity to pump the water into Phoenix and Tucson.

    The effort was led by former U.S. Senator Carl Hayden and the entire Arizona delegation and is a part of our state’s culture and history. Hayden’s stature and seniority, and the efforts of the Arizona delegation, led to the creation of the CAP and the Navajo Generating Station. Together, they have made much of Arizona’s growth and success possible.

    Without the electricity the Navajo Generating Station produces, the water delivered to Phoenix and Tucson by the CAP pumps, and which makes our communities, homes and businesses possible, wouldn’t be here.

    Closing the plant will cost us, big time

    If the plant is closed, as the Sierra Club and Earthjustice are seeking, Arizona will have to find the electricity elsewhere. And it is virtually certain that electricity will be more expensive, perhaps a lot more expensive.

    The water we depend on will cost more as well. The impact on the native Navajo ‎workers employed at the plant, the Navajo Nation and all of northern Arizona will be devastating.

    Arizonans should be reminded that the Navajo Generating Station itself was an environmental compromise. Arizona’s congressional delegation proposed using hydroelectricity to provide the power needed — a plan that   the environmental movement opposed.

    Following extensive national debate and news coverage, David Brower, one of the founders of the Sierra Club and its then executive director, testified in August 1964 proposing the use of coal to generate the power needed instead of hydroelectricity.

    Brower and representatives of the Audubon Society, the Isaac Walton League and the National Parks Association acknowledged Arizona’s desperate need for water, but testified that because fossil fuel was available in the area, a coal- or nuclear-powered facility would be a preferable alternative to more dams on the Colorado.

    While some of these groups later switched positions, the original proposal to use coal came from Brower and the others at the 1964 hearings.

    The Republic’s readers and all Arizonans need to know this history to fully understand the controversy surrounding the plant, its emissions and the effort to close it.

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    Environmental Groups Strongly Endorse "None Of The Above" Energy Plans


    3/12/13

    President Obama’s obsession with transitioning from fossil-fueled energy use to so-called “clean renewables” is being thwarted by unlikely adversaries. A 2011 U.S. Chamber of Commerce report titled “Project/No Project” found 140 renewable projects that had stalled, stopped, or been outright killed due to “Not in My Back Yard” (NIMBY) environmental activism and a system that allows limitless challenges by opponents. The study concluded that it is just as difficult to build a wind farm in the U.S. as it is to build a coal-fired plant, with about 45% of all challenged projects being “renewable energy”. This is accomplished by a variety of strategies, including organizing local opposition, changing zoning laws, preventing permits, filing lawsuits, and using other long delay mechanisms, effectively bleeding projects dry of their financing.

    The study also confirmed that there were very few “shovel ready” renewable energy projects that were truly qualified for support under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (stimulus funding). And according to the U.S. Department of Energy, even if all renewable sources (including hydro) which now provide about 10% of American energy were to grow at three times the pace of all others, they would still make up just 16% of all domestic supplies by 2035.

    Absolutely no energy options are immune from environmental challenges. No, it’s certainly not just “dirty” coal, oil and natural gas, that are being challenged…or those “hazardous” nuclear plants. Hydroelectric dams are under assault for killing fish, biomass burning produces greenhouse gases just as fossils do, and geothermal power releases toxic ground and water contaminates. Wind turbines slaughter birds and bats, solar power disrupts fragile desert ecosystems.

    Wind and solar power also require huge amounts of land and expansive transmission lines to deliver electricity from remote sites. For example, an 85-mile Green Path North Transmission Line planned to carry green power to Los Angeles was cancelled in 2010 due to environmental opposition. As Mike Garland, CEO of Pattern Energy Group, a wind farm developer observed, “We are starting to see all renewable energy projects, no matter how well planned, are being questioned.”

    Environmentalists successfully blocked a proposed 500 megawatt wind project on private land in a remote part of Montana near the Canadian border planned by GreenHunter Energy. Plans were shelved after the Montana Wilderness Association and the Montana Audubon and Wilderness Society protested that 400-foot tall turbines would loom over an adjacent wilderness area about 10 miles away. In 2006, GreenHumter announced it would scale down the development to 150 megawatts, then agreed in 2007 to scale back again to only 50 megawatts.

    In April 2012, two environmental groups, the Portland Audubon Society and Oregon Natural Desert Association, filed suit in the U.S. District Court in Portland to block plans to build an industrial-scale wind energy installation on Oregon’s Steens Mountain, along with essential access roads and transmission lines. They charged that the project represented the “antithesis of responsible renewable development” which would threaten golden eagles, sage grouse and big-horn sheep. Approved by then-Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, the $300 million Echanis Wind Project and its 40-60 turbines would cover 10,000 acres of private ranch land with transmission lines extending 44 miles across rolling sagebrush land controlled by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM).

    In October 2012, The Defenders of Wildlife, Center for Biological Diversity, and the Sierra Club, filed suit in the Kern County Superior Court in Bakersfield, California to reopen an environmental review of a 100-turbine North Sky River wind project and a smaller adjacent Jawbone project in the mountains north of the Mojave Desert over threats to California condors. They charged that the installations will also pose hazards to golden eagles, southwestern willow flycatchers and bats. Center for Biological Diversity biologist Ileene Anderson said: "There's plenty of room in the state for both wind projects and the California condor to thrive. But if condors and wind turbines are going to coexist, those turbines need to be sited carefully and measures have to be taken to minimize the risk that condors will be killed. Unfortunately, this project fails to do that."

    In 2012, the Sierra Club, Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) and Defenders of Wildlife also filed suit to stop another 663 megawatt 4,600-acre Calico solar plant to be built on 7.2 square miles in the Mohave Desert northeast of Los Angeles. Originally planned to provide 850 megawatts of electricity generated by 30,000 solar dishes standing 40 feet high, the project was scaled back over concern about impacts on desert tortoises. Regardless, the deal ran into more problems with the Sierra Club, which joined with California Unions for Reliable Energy over the developer’s hiring of non-union labor. Together, they petitioned the state Supreme Court to block the project on environmental grounds.

    After those efforts failed, Tessera sold the project to a K Road Power, a New York firm, which decided to switch to solar panels. That still wasn’t enough, and the Sierra Club sued the BLM, FWS and the Department of Interior over threats to tortoises and other wildlife. The union group, which had signed a labor agreement with K Road, didn’t participate in the latest litigation.

    And what about those solar environmental advantages…like protecting the planet from climate-ravaging carbon dioxide emissions? Well, maybe not after all…at least not according to a letter of protest from three environmental organizations to BLM over new Department of Interior rules to streamline approval for solar energy projects on hundreds of thousands of acres of federal land. The letter complains that “no scientific evidence has been presented to support the claim that these projects reduce greenhouse emissions.”

    In fact, the letter issued by the Western Lands Project, Basin and Ranch Range, and Solar Done Right indicates that “…the opposite may be true. Recent work at the Center for Conservation Biology at the University of California, Riverside, suggests that soil disturbance from large-scale solar development may disrupt Pleistocene-era caliche deposits that release carbon to the atmosphere when exposed to the elements, thus negat[ing] the solar development C[arbon] gains.”

    And if this isn’t bad news enough, the letter says that the environmental impacts from the solar panels “..are long-term (decades to centuries)” and threaten the habitat of “…endangered species, including the desert tortoise, Mojave fringe-toed lizard, flat-tailed horned lizard, golden eagle and desert bighorn.”

    Yes, and most of those “green-renewable” projects have lots of other problems as well…namely that they haven’t delivered the economic or employment benefits that were advertised. In January 2009, President Obama pledged: “We will put Americans to work in new jobs that pay well and can’t be outsourced---jobs building solar panels and wind turbines.”

    But just how well is that green approach working so far? About 20 of those government-backed green energy companies that rushed to get stimulus help ran headlong into financial problems, ranging from layoffs…to losses…to bankruptcies. Yes, in addition to those birds, bats, lizards, kangaroo rats and tortoises, we taxpayers were endangered too.
     
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    It cracks me up to see the PR hacks and their many socks still scrambling to try and blame environmentalists or anyone else they can for what is simply business as usual.

    None of that is killing coal. Cheaper natural gas is. And Trump just simply and knowingly lied to all those coal miners and the reality of that is about to bite them hard as Trump tries to take away their healthcare and take away the social safety net that helps them so he can give tax cuts to himself and his millionaire and billionaire friends.

    Yeah Trump got their coal alright and they get the shaft.
     
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      You are doing a fine job.
      Continue please.
       
      shootersa, Mar 21, 2017
  10. ace's n 8's

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    Coal is not dead, it is used to create much of the required energy that this country desires, but you knew that, did you...coward.

    Sure, natural gas is cheaper, cleaner, sure is.

    But, coward, you know that not every area in this country has access to Natural gas, coal produces more than 40 percent of the world's electricity.
     
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    Why coal jobs aren't coming back, despite Trump's actions

     
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    Stupid repeats stupid.

    There are areas in the U.S. that does not and will not have access to natural gas pipelines, where as requiring the need for coal.

    40 % of the U.S electric grids are supplied by coal.

    Other areas of the world will always have a need for coal.

    This little bullet point that you are attempting to relay is pure fictional bullshit.

    Coward.
     
  13. stumbler

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    Reports Reveal Beijing To Cut Coal Use By 30% In 2017

    Analysis: IEA cuts coal growth outlook in half as China peaks
     
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    Not a secret, China has a serious surplus of coal.

    So what.

    The Netherlands bought around 20% of the U.S.'s coal exports, which states that the Netherlands bought the most worldwide.

    The Netherlands is the major hub that supplies coal the EU.

    Coal is still a very valuable Natural resource that commonly used throughout the world. No matter what the tree huggers want to claim.

    While you also attempt to promote another lie, I'll give the facts.

    From 68% consumption today, reducing to 65% consumption in '17, is not 30% reduction.
     
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      Other countries are demanding energy, other countries will meet that demand in any means possible that fits their own agenda, whether it's solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, coal, propane, natural gas or the wicked wicked nasty coal, their energy demand will be met.

      Some on this site are still pushing the ''OBAMA AGENDA'' of clean energy, while also using the sources that promote the clean energy agenda.
       
      ace's n 8's, Mar 22, 2017
  15. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Oh now I get it Trump is going to bring back coal jobs in the Netherlands.
     
    1. shootersa
      Try to keep up.
      The coal thing is a shiny bauble he dropped weeks ago.
      You're just now finding it?
      He's going to bring back Mafia jobs in New York.
       
      shootersa, Mar 22, 2017
  16. Hush

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    Remember this image and news conference? The one where Trump claimed to have signed over his businesses to his sons, "proven" by the vast heaps of folders "containing" the paperwork.

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    Naturally, NO ONE was allowed to look at even one page of the contents. Trump claiming that he was then fully out of all of his business. So everyone waited for the filings, and waited, and waited... and then in typical fashion they never were filed, follow up questions regarding it were blown off, and then a hundred other crisis, blatant lies, diversions and so on happened... and everyone forgot.

    After Promising Not To Talk Business With Father, Eric Trump Says He'll Give Him Financial Reports
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...dent-give-him-financial-reports/#13482326359a

    Eric Trump sits behind his desk on the 25th floor of Trump Tower on a late February day in New York City, dressed in a slightly less formal version of his father’s go-to power uniform—blue suit, white buttoned-down shirt, no tie. There are reminders of Donald Trump everywhere in this office, including the TV in the corner that beams out wall-to-wall news about the president any time his son turns it on. Amidst it all, Eric Trump, who now manages the Trump Organization with his brother Don Jr., wants to emphasize that the Trump business is separate from the Trump presidency.

    “There is kind of a clear separation of church and state that we maintain, and I am deadly serious about that exercise,” he says, echoing previous statements from his father. “I do not talk about the government with him, and he does not talk about the business with us. That’s kind of a steadfast pact we made, and it’s something that we honor.”

    But less than two minutes later, he concedes that he will continue to update his father on the business while he is in the presidency. “Yeah, on the bottom line, profitability reports and stuff like that, but you know, that’s about it.” How often will those reports be, every quarter? “Depending, yeah, depending.” Could be more, could be less? “Yeah, probably quarterly.” One thing is clear: “My father and I are very close,” Eric Trump says. “I talk to him a lot. We’re pretty inseparable.”

    The apparent contradiction troubles ethics experts. “The statement that the president made earlier that he wasn’t going to talk to his children about the business sounded good, but the reality was there was no way to enforce it,” says Larry Noble, general counsel of the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center and a former chief ethics officer at the Federal Election Commission. “He is breaking down one of the few barriers he claimed to be establishing between him and his businesses, and those barriers themselves were weak to begin with. But if he is now going to get reports from his son about the businesses, then he really isn’t separate in any real way.”

    George W. Bush’s former chief ethics lawyer, Richard Painter, expressed a similar sentiment. “It just means that a lot of what they say is malarkey because the president isn’t distancing himself from the business,” he says. “It doesn’t matter how much of the management is being delegated. Things are always delegated in business, down to who the hotel clerk is at the Trump hotel. But at the end of the day, he owns the business. He has the conflicts that come with it.”

    The relationship between the president and his children has changed in some ways though. Don Jr. told the New York Times that he has barely talked to his father at all recently. Eric tends to stick to more serious conversations with his father today than he once did. “I also realize how big of a magnitude the decisions he makes and the things he has on his plate,” Eric Trump says. “I minimize fluff calls that you might otherwise have because I understand that time is a resource. And that resource is important, especially when you’ve got the biggest job in the world.”

    Although their father’s promotion to president pushed the sons into bigger roles at the family company, they had already been central figures inside the Trump Organization for years. Even before Donald Trump began his bid for the White House, Eric Trump was managing the Trump International Las Vegas, a 50-50 partnership between his father and billionaire Phil Ruffin. Don Jr. struck the bond with Malaysian heir Joo Kim Tiah, who built the world’s newest Trump tower, a licensed deal in Vancouver. And both brothers have always had more contact than their father with the Trump Organization’s partner in Indonesia, Hary Tanoesoedibjo. Paulo Figueiredo Filho, who partnered with the Trumps in Brazil, worked mostly with the children as well. Donald Trump “gives his sons a lot of autonomy to make the company’s decisions,” he says. “They were already conducting 90% of the business, even before the presidency.”

    The Trump Organization has curtailed some of its international work, pulling out of deals in Azerbaijan, Georgia and Brazil, while pledging to do no new foreign deals (though it has apparently resurrected an old deal in the Dominican Republic). Trump’s international hotel licensing and management business only makes up $220 million of his estimated $3.5 billion fortune, but it’s the most dynamic part of the Trump portfolio—and it throws off chunks of cash with virtually no risk. As the Trumps have winded down some international deals, they continue to push forward with new domestic agreements.

    “From a business standpoint, is the presidency beneficial?” says Eric Trump. “We’re doing great in all of our assets. I would say that we also made great sacrifices and that the business made great sacrifices in that when you limit an international business to only domestic properties, when you put hundreds of millions of dollars of cash into a campaign, when you run with very, very tight and strict rules and the things that we do every single day in terms of compliance—I don’t know. You could look at it either way.”

    Donald Trump will be keeping an eye on both the business and his children. “These papers are all just a piece of the many, many companies that are being put into trust to be run by my two sons,” the president said, standing next to stacks of documents at a January press conference where he announced he would hand over management to Eric and Don Jr. “I hope at the end of eight years I’ll come back and say ‘Oh you did a good job.’ Otherwise, if they do a bad job, I’ll say, ‘You’re fired.’”

    Who would care to wager that all of those files, just like his promises, all of them, and all of his claims were all BULLSHIT ? He is a liar of ASPD proportions.

    Hush....an alias
     
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      Trump at age 70 needed to start turning over ownership of his holding at this point to avoid massive
      inheritance taxes....
       
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      But... He didn't.

      Hush....an alias
       
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  17. shootersa

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    They just keep coming back to the same old same old.
    If Trump had sold everything, given it to planned parenthood, and left his family on the streets of New York the unsupporters would complain he had added to the welfare problem in New York.
     
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    And here's the deal. While Trump lied about separating himself from his businesses and his whole family is profiting off the presidency like its one big White House infomercial all his conflicts of interest and shady business dealings are getting pushed to the back burner because all the attention is on Trump's Russian connections.

    That is so serious and such a threat to national security all Trump's profiteering can't even get air time. But as you just demonstrated lots of people are keeping track and gathering evidence.
     
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      Just more of the same old same old.
      If Trump sold it all and left his family penniless you'd bitch.
       
      shootersa, Mar 25, 2017
  19. stumbler

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    Trump--I will separate myself from my business interests

    Now Hush and I already told you so that was total bullshit. But damn the Trump and his family are the biggest scam in American History.

    Melania Trump is featured guest at Mar-a-Lago fundraiser after GOP drops $150,000 to rent ballroom

     
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    Trump--I will bring coal jobs back

    Even coal executives can tell you so that is total bullshit.

    Coal executive admits: Trump can’t bring back mining jobs