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  1. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    The news that Russia sponsored cyber attacks on America isn't new information. As early as 2015 American Intelligence agencies were aware of Russian interest in impacting our elections.

    What is becoming big news is Obama's reaction to Russian hacking attempts. Obama's former cyber chief, Michael Daniel, who served from 2012 until 2017, testified about orders he received in 2016 during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing into how the Obama administration dealt with Russian cyber and information warfare attacks.

    He testified that he was ordered to "stand down" and to put on the back burner any response to Russian hacking attempts by Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser, to stop his efforts and “stand down.” This order was in part because Rice feared the options would leak and “box the president in.” Everyone also assumed that the next administration would deal with it, meaning Clinton.

    President Obama instead chose to give Putin a "strongly worded warning" during a summit in China in early September 2016. Predictably, the warning hardly slowed the pace of attacks.

    Another revelation came from Victoria Nuland, who served as assistant secretary of state for Europe during the Obama administration. She told the panel that she had been briefed as early as December 2015 about the hacking of the Democratic National Committee — long before senior DNC officials were aware of it — and that the intrusion had all the hallmarks of a Russian operation.

    So, here's the thing.
    It turns out that the Obama administration was aware much earlier that the Russians were hacking DNC computers, as early as the winter of 2016, but did nothing to stop the hacking. Why? Because of fears it would a) Play into Trump's claims that the election was fixed b) that it would further expose Clinton to charges that her private e Mail server was a source of leaks of classified material and c) "box the President in". Box him into what isn't clear, but apparently, that was more important than national security and free elections.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html
     
    1. tenguy
      Are “We” surprised? “They” will ignore this or claim that it’s all a right wing conspiracy
       
      tenguy, Jun 21, 2018
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  2. Hush

    Hush Happy Hhedonist

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    That must be it... Trump years ago opting to be a Russian stooge is all Obama's fault. It could have nothing to do with his greed, debt, commie brides or manipulative contacts over many, many years... gall dern that Obama!

    Hush....an alias
     
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      How I bet we'll discover they've been doing this since Bush, then what? And Obama did try and do something about it. In any case, it all matters little in that TRUMP IS UNDER DIRECT RUSSIAN INFLUENCE. Get used to the idea... He's a frigging mole meant to tear apart our nation. How much more obvious does it need to be?

      No matter... That will be proven out, and then you'll be saying "fucking Obama! He should have been getting the FBI to spy on Trump!" You people... yeah, you deplorables :laugh: are ridiculous.

      Hush....an anti-commie alias
       
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  3. submissively speaking

    submissively speaking Sassochist

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    Something ought to have been done, agreed. No question.
     
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      What could have been done? The republicans would have claimed that Obama was interfering in the election.
       
      anon_de_plume, Jun 21, 2018
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  4. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    BTW, it’s been almost unanimously agreed, the Russians could not get into the actual voting system, it’s to diverse, each state having it’s own system(s). 48 of 50 states were thoroughly checked prior the election.

    Of course it could have been a Russian sub-contractor.
     
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  5. ladygodiva123

    ladygodiva123 Porn Star

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    I'm an Obama supporter, but this was a huge error. To allow a foreign country, an adversary at that, to meddle in a US election should not be an issue of party politics. The American public had a right to know, back in 2015, and Russia should have been punished with sanctions.

    It just shows that no matter how many firewalls and passcodes are put up, something as important as elections should not be accessible to ANYONE through the internet. If we have to go back to hand counting paper ballots, so be it.
     
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      Look into it a bit more... and look into the pushback ;) In any case, Like I said to tenguy it's about more than just hacking. This is simply the new republican spin of the day to distract and lay blame for the corner Trump is finding himself quickly pushed in to.

      Hush....an alias
       
      Hush, Jun 21, 2018
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  6. hottotrot69

    hottotrot69 Amateur

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    "Of course it could have been a Russian sub-contractor"......Ya THIMK DAH !!
    maybe 200,000 Chinese,Korean,Iranian & Obviously Ivan the Terrible Lover's Russian Bots.., lmfao....
    At Trumpanzee's & Politically..Ignorant Morons like you Deplorable Dullards...

    BTW [ Faceless] Kid..I'm a Very Patriotic INDEPENDENT,Open minded Partisan....
    whom now has No Fucking use for Either Failed Big Party on the Potomac....especially on our Dime..
    I'd at least like some Cheese to go with their Constant Political Whine..especially 12924527_1003486659768792_8941932503272467681_n.jpg on Fox's Fake Nazi News..
    Here's my Yard sign depicting my disgusted Adda=Dude for the last Billion Dollar Electoral Hoax....

    Pssst I have NO Fucking Use for Limousine Libs like HRC either ..However..at least the Lesser of Evils.. C9qxVw_XUAA8I2j.jpg 13529049_696317277183714_7159696607537324953_n.jpg C1qw7iGW8AA77pM.jpg C2Q3BlSXEAEGG9b-001.jpg C5y1S2hWUAIDpwY.jpg C6rnrmTVoAE7x0a.jpg trumppeople.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.jpg Copy of C5D2fDtWIAIIFmE.jpg 00m0m_7So51mhV6mq_1200x900.jpg
     
    1. tenguy
      Well that’s a relief, y’all managed to make no sense at all.
       
      tenguy, Jun 21, 2018
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  7. Ficxa 479

    Ficxa 479 Porn Star

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    Lady Godiva what a sound nic. One has to earn that kinda name.
     
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  8. anon_de_plume

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    So, Obama knew about what was going on with the Russians, and he probably knew about Trump. But because he didn't "do" anything it exonerates Trump fromhis dealings with the Russians...

    But of course, had Obama done anything, the republicans would have cried foul and that Obamawas interfering in theelection to help Hillary.

    Face the truth, shooter, the Russians helped Trump and Trump was in on it...
     
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  9. shootersa

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    Hush, Shooter did not post this to give Trump or the Publicans some kind of "out" for their predicament, such as it is.

    Shooter found this of note because of a couple of things;
    First, Obama knew, dammit! He knew the Russians were hacking us, and he didn't respond because of political reasons. Obama abdicated his solemn sworn duty to America. Shooter thinks Obama, like everyone else, thought Clinton would ascend the throne, and he didn't want Trump to say the election was rigged. The fact that Russia was hacking away was not so alarming to him that he wanted to do anything about it.

    That Rice would direct those in a position to do something about it to "stand down" speaks volumes.

    Second, it becomes evident that the Obama administration knew much earlier than the middle of 2016 that Clinton was a) using a private server and b) it was being hacked by the Russians. This was not a huge concern either, as it now seems.

    Now for the record, Shooter will once again state his position on all things Trump/Russian;
    If the Mueller investigation in fact uncovers evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to win the Presidency, then let him hang for it. If Pence was involved, he can take his medicine as well. And as for the Russians, well then lets go give them some what for as well.

    What Shooter expects to happen out of the Mueller investigation re; Trump/Russian collusion is exactly nothing. No collusion.

    He had expected that Mueller would follow the evidence, stay non political, and we'd see a whole bunch of scoundrels on both sides of the aisle getting caught up in influence peddling, vote fixing, and all sorts of other rascally behavior.

    Not anymore. Shooter expects the Mueller investigation to whimper to a close without finding any collusion, but also that they sweep a lot of other unsavory shit under the rug strictly for political reasons.
     
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  10. anon_de_plume

    anon_de_plume Porn Star

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    This is not true. trump never said this and people magazine did not publish it in '98. The photo itself is from a 1988 interview that Trump did with Oprah.
     
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  11. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    One other thought;

    Russia is still hacking away. Their goal is not to support or attack any ideology, rather to cause division and upset in America.

    It's still working.
     
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