I'm terribly sorry about what happened to your daughter, shooter. That is horrific.

Bill Clinton, in my view, ought to have been impeached, not by virtue of the affair with Lewinsky (if it had been non-consensual, absolutely, and there's a 'position of authority' argument to be made there that is fairly strong, as well) but because he lied, under oath, to the American people.

One historical mistake does not guarantee endless perpetuation. Lie under oath, get caught, lose your job. Period.

 

Lol curb-stomping. Fr. This lingo cracks me up. People say the damnedest things to sound cool.

 

Clinton was impeached..... In fact, he was impeached on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice ... His Democrat criminal cronies in congress protected him and wouldn't have it.

A two-thirds vote (67 senators) was required to remove Clinton from office. 50 senators voted to remove Clinton on the obstruction of justice charge and 45 voted to remove him on the perjury charge; no member of his own Democrat Party voted guilty on either charge.

 

A consensual affair with a woman past the age of consent who took most of the initiative is vastly less serious than the attempted rape of a fifteen year old girl.

 

I wonder how many men, both in Congress and on XNXX, who are making excuses for Kavanaugh, are guilty of similar actions.

 

You cannot seriously support President Clinton, who both lied about it, and did commit acts of attempted rape and sexual aggression and carries a well deserved reputation as a sexual predator. The difference between what Clinton did and was rumored to have done, and what Brett Kavanaugh is accused of doing, is not so great a difference that you can ignore it. If lying under oath is an unforgiveable offense, if attempted rape (if that is indeed what Kavanaugh had in mind, assuming this really happened as described) is an unforgivable offense, then President Clinton should be dragged, today, off to jail.

And no, Judge Kavanaugh will not likely overturn Roe V Wade. Certainly not single handedly, and not even with a more conservative court. His record of judicial rulings speaks for itself, as does his reputation as a jurist and American citizen, excepting of course Mrs. Ford's allegations, assuming they are true. But Shooter suspects the unreasonable fear Democrats have about Roe V Wade have played a role in Mrs. Ford's scandal. And that is despicable.

Shooter sees no reason to play into the sleazy Democratic tactics and delay the vote. Any woman who came forward now with allegations of some kind of sexual misconduct on judge Kavanaugh's part would have no chance of being believed. Not unless they had video with sound and DNA evidence. Even then, there would be the very legitimate question of "Why now, if not for political reasons?"

As Shooter noted above, he knows first hand the impact of sexual aggression on women. In his experience they often do not step forward willingly, mainly from embarrassment, partly from fear, and a bit from denial. But that said, after 30 years even the law does not find a need to give the matter serious consideration. The statute of limitations you see, precludes just about any crime but murder from being given much attention after it becomes "too old to prosecute fairly."

Enough.
Vote.

 

Clinton has been accused of rape, assault and harassment by several women. Going back to his days as Arkansas governor and farther.

That didn't seem to bother you....

 

I hate to say it again ,not to make you mad , but you don't have a dog in this race since you from Canada.

 

Well, we agree, pretty much. The only reason it was our business was because it happened, you know, right there in the oval office.

About the only people who don't lie are military academy graduates. They have it beaten into them from the very beginning that a lie, no matter why, no matter how small, will get their assess kicked right out. In disgrace.

The rest of us mortals have lied, will lie, or are lying. And we need to be really careful when we take that high moral ground. The fall, sooner or later, will come, and it will hurt like hell.

Now, Kavanaugh may be lying about what happened. He could also have no recollection cause, you know, he was drunk. He could also have remembered the thing differently but knows that at this point any explanation will not be accepted.

But no matter what happens with Kavanaugh, Shooter thinks enough voters have concluded that this entire stinking pile of bull shit is nothing more than a sleazy Democratic tactic to beat Trump no matter what truth, honor and ethics be dammed. And they will take that belief with them to the polls.

It might come to pass that Kavanaugh's nomination is withdrawn, or he withdraws, or he is not confirmed. Shooter doesn't think so. Shooter thinks Kavanugh will be confirmed.

But the price the Democrats will pay for their sleazy tactics, whether Kavanugh is confirmed or not, will be steep indeed.

 

Amen brother

amen

 

And one other question for everyone;
Do you distinguish between lying and lying under oath?

 

Why these female prosecutors find the allegations against Kavanaugh credibe

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The allegations against Brett Kavanaugh are not simply a 'he said, she said' situation
Prosecutors look for corroborating evidence — and there are strong indications already that Christine Blasey Ford is telling the truth about her attack.
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Allegations of sexual assault are deserving of a full and fair investigation, particularly when a lifetime appointment to the nation’s highest court is at stake.

We now have the specifics of an alleged attack Christine Blasey Ford, a California professor, says occurred in the 1980s when she and Judge Brett Kavanaugh were in high school in Maryland. Speaking to The Washington Post, Ford claims that Kavanaugh “physically and sexually assaulted” her and provided very specific details about how he allegedly pinned her to a bed, groped her and covered her mouth to prevent her from screaming — with such force that she was afraid he might suffocate her.

So now the question is: What’s next? The latest proposal is for Ford and Kavanaugh to testify under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday. However, these allegations are extremely serious and we — five former federal prosecutors with a combined experience of many decades — believe that a Senate hearing, if it indeed occurs, is not enough. It will not adequately provide the American public with the full facts and truth about these allegations, nor, importantly, will it allow the Senate to fulfill its constitutional role of “advice and consent” in the context of potential Supreme Court justices. Rather, there must be a thorough, unrushed investigation by the FBI or by another independent investigator and a full and fair public hearing, including all relevant witnesses and not just Kavanaugh and his accuser.

There must be a thorough, unrushed investigation by the FBI or by another independent investigator and a full and fair public hearing, including all relevant witnesses, not just Kavanaugh and his accuser.

Because, if true, the allegation alone should disqualify Kavanaugh from serving on the Supreme Court.

While some argue that the truth about this incident will come down to a “he said, she said” situation, that’s not how it looks to us. Prosecutors and investigators are confronted with these scenarios frequently and don’t just throw up their hands and say, “We can’t decide.” Instead, prosecutors look for corroborating evidence — and there are strong indications already that Ford is telling the truth about her attack. Here are some of those indicators:

First, there is corroboration. Ford’s therapist’s notes in 2012, provided to The Washington Post, generally record her account of the attack. To believe that this is a made-up tale to prevent Kavanaugh’s confirmation, Ford would have had to plant the seeds of this story in 2012. That makes no sense.

Second, while not determinative, the fact that Ford passed a polygraph administered by a former FBI agent lends credence to her claims. Polygraph exams are inadmissible in court because they are not always reliable, but the FBI and other law enforcement agencies frequently use polygraph tests to assess the credibility of witnesses and defendants.


Brett Kavanaugh's sexual assault public hearing set for Monday
In addition, consider the motives of Ford, who by all accounts is not a particularly politically active person, to go public with allegations of sexual assault. It appears that she did not want to speak publicly at all, but that reporters discovered her identity and pursued her. Ford knew that she would be personally attacked in front of her children, colleagues, students and friends. There is no reasonable explanation for why she would subject herself to such humiliation other than the reason she has given: that she felt she had a duty as a citizen to speak up.

Many people have pointed to Ford’s delay in going public as evidence that she is lying. As prosecutors, we have learned that victims of sexual assault do not always come forward immediately — and often never do — because they are shamed by society, fear not being believed, worry that they will be blamed for the attack or just want to move on with their lives. Delay in reporting — particularly in the area of sexual assault — does not mean a report is false. And difficult as it is to come forward now, it would likely have been even more daunting for a 15-year-old girl in the 1980s, when Ford says she had this experience.

If you are still inclined to believe that Ford is lying, ask yourself: Why would she create a defense witness by identifying Mark Judge, who was and still is indisputably a friend of Kavanaugh’s, as being present and participating in this attack? Why would she place at the scene an individual who could, because of loyalties to his friend, contradict her account if she were making this up? She wouldn’t.


GOP Senators say they can't delay Kavanaugh vote. But they can.
In our view, Ford is providing a credible account about a painful, horrible incident that occurred many years ago and which she hoped she would never have to talk about to anyone again, let alone the whole country. Now that she has courageously come forward publicly, everyone (including Kavanaugh, if the allegations are not true) deserve to have a full and fair investigation.

What should that investigation include? Witnesses, in addition to Ford and Kavanaugh, should be interviewed by nonpartisan investigators before they testify. These should include Mark Judge, other people who may have been present at the party that night (even if they did not actually witness the alleged attack) and Ford’s therapist from the 2012 session. One way to judge witnesses’ credibility is to look at how consistent their statements are over time and how witnesses’ statements line up with one another. This assessment cannot be done on the telephone and cannot be done in a vacuum by interviewing only two of the witnesses under oath.

Meanwhile, there is no legitimate reason to rush a confirmation vote. Confirming Kavanaugh under the current circumstances would undermine both his legitimacy and the integrity of the Supreme Court. Before a lifetime appointment, the FBI must have time to investigate this allegation and to determine if it is, for example, the only one.


Some have said that because these alleged acts occurred so long ago, when Kavanaugh was a teenager, they should not be disqualifying — even if true. We strongly disagree. In our criminal justice system, people 17 years old (and younger) are held accountable for acts they commit, sometimes in very harsh ways. It is simply not acceptable for one of the people tasked with overseeing that criminal justice system to not be held to the same standard.

Additionally, attempted rape is not simply an act of youthful recklessness, as some have cautioned. Few of us have such serious crimes in our pasts — and those who have committed them should not expect to easily be confirmed to posts like Supreme Court justice.

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Finally, if these allegations are true, then that means that Kavanaugh has lied about them. That alone should disqualify someone from serving on the country’s highest court.

This is not about politics or investigating the ideological views of Brett Kavanaugh. Indeed, if his nomination does not succeed, President Donald Trump will almost certainly nominate someone with similar views and positions. This debate is instead about our country’s respect for women, for victims of crime and for our justice system.

 

Yes

Yes of course. Either way lying never Really works out.

 

Friend of Kavanaugh accuser says GOP is treating her like she’s ‘inconvenient’ to their agenda

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/fr...s-gop-treating-like-shes-inconvenient-agenda/

And since Anita Hill keeps coming up let me point out another difference. At least the FBI did investigate Hill's claims. That is how bad Trump and the Republicans are trying to ram this one through before any more truth can come out.

 

The bitch is true or not true .
She threw it out there at the perfect
Time .
Doing exactly what they planned to do delay. It's more a left trick more than anything. The lady is almost a super leftist.
Don't get mad I'm not condoning anything
Just saying it get anymore suspicious
And if it turns out it's not true and she should be prosecuted for ruining the guys life at least and his family's home life .

 

Trump nominated him then sealed his WH work. Now a RAPE charge (assault)... The GOP want this confirmation in the bag before gthey loose the senate in nov. Lets wait just like the gop did last round to oboma... It was ok back then not ok today... A judge is their to protect our rights. As we have found 6 people passed the budget both gop/ democrats. Past few sessions. The gop passedthe tax act single sided .bill and debate. Gop sound bite grow economy
Do we have that outcome? $2t for rich $400 m bonus for fworkers... The court allows congress to write any law as legal...

 

It's amazing to see how concerned Hillary Clinton is for Mrs. Ford. The same lady who threatened her husband's accusers
Hypocrites

 

If Christine Ford is unwilling to speak to congress with regards to the matter, their is no need to hear from her "friend"...

 

Lawyer for Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser says Senate panel rushing to hearing

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/lawyer-brett-kavanaughs-accuser-says-senate-panel-rushing-hearing/