Sorry.
Shooter wipes mouth.

So, take charge of means an agency takes legal custody of a child.
That can mean physical custody, it can mean the child is still at home, it can mean the child is somewhere unknown, as in a runaway.

"Aprehension" isn't the right term. The kid isn't arrested in most cases, many times the kid stays right where they are or with a relative.

What it means is, the state or federal agency is responsible for that childs welfare and legally responsible for them.

It's a big deal, because it puts in motion all sorts of obligations, legal process, evaluations, financial stuff, and oh yes, the agency is now making decisions that have long term, significant impact on many lives.

You might be thinking aprehension by border patrol or ICE.

different deal all together. The child typically remains in Ice custody until they can be placed in a detention center. They don't go into the foster care system until the parents rights are terminated.

You know, after a court terminates the parents rights.

 

Oh, and by the way, whats one of the first things border patrol does when processing people, either as ILLEGAL immigrants or as asylum seekers?

They fingerprint them.
Yes, even the little kids.

Think about that for a moment.

Cause it's also one of the first things foster care agencies do.

 

If that fraud stumbles had ever had contact with the foster care system as he claims, he would know all this.

And he'd know the heartstring tugging stories about poor kids "torn from the bosoms of their mothers and thrown into cages " is just open borders propoganda.

Or, maybe he did know it was propaganda and doesn't care.......

 

And the Trump administration was so grossly negligent they didn't even track the kids within their own agencies. Border patrol grabbed the paperwork many of the parents were carrying including birth certificates for their kids. Then the parents got shipped off in one place and the kids in another. And then some of the kids got shipped out of detention centers to places all over the country. And they didn't even have records on them. Then in other cases when parents did try to track down their kids they demanded documentation they were actually their kids. But all the documents they had were confiscated by the border patrol and never given back.

So don't let shootersa bullshit you on what was supposed to happen because the Trump administration didn't follow any standard protocols let alone state protocols.

 

Dumbass.
All your spew reinforces that you have never had contact with the foster care system on any level.

All your rants are based on articles with an agenda other than concern for any kid.

For any of your allegations to have a smattering of truth would require a conspiracy crossing federal, state, and local agencies like nothing ever seen before. With a good number of conspirators being trump haters. And most of the participants having dedicated their lives to protecting kids.

You give not a flea fart for any kid anywhere, American or otherwise. All you care about is attacking all things trump.

You are a fucking fraud.
A fucking liar.
A fucking hypocrite.

 

If they didn't track the info, they can't identify the kids. Period.

 

And other than slanted news articles posted by a lying hypocrite fraud, what are you basing your claim on?

Did you see shooter's post about fingerprinting EVERYONE processed at the border? About fingerprinting every kid processed through state agencies?

The fraud is a fucking hypocrite liar and shooter for one has no tolerance for his bullshit.

By the way, more caravans are on their way.

 

Again: what convinces you that "they" didn't keep record?
A frauds copy and paste is what.

 

Oh?
You got specifics?
You know,sources.
Shooter posted the law.
To give the fraud any credibility with his copy and paste spew you have to believe in a conspiracy starting at the border and extending right down to the independent placement agencies.

 

More absolute total leftist bullshit is polluting the atmosphere.

The high majority of these illegal undocumented minors are placed with relatives that are already in the U.S....

Around 10% are placed with people that are not related to the unaccompanied minors...10%...

And to further the truth of this matter, those 10% children are NOT lost or unidentified.

Once the minors are placed with a ''sponsor'',a 'family member' or 'agency', they are no longer the ''responsibility'' of the federal fucking government.

 

Ok first I have to point out again a lie that is trying to be told here. There is a difference between minor migrants that are actually "unaccompanied minors" and what the Trump administration did. They US has about 15,000 unaccompanied minors in custody.But the vast majority of those are actually unaccompanied minors that arrived at the border all alone and are teenagers. When in the past parents who arrived at the border with their children, especially young children, to seek asylum, were processed to begin the asylum process, and then released to await their court dates.

But what Trump and his administration did when they implemented the "Zero Tolerance" policy is separate parents at the border, including toddlers and infants, and then classify the children as "unaccompanied" even though that was a lie, and they were just inflicting one of the cruelest government policies in US history. With no plans and procedures in place to know what to do with the children after they snatched them, no data base to identify children and parents, no coherent record keeping, and no way to insure children and parents would be reunited. In fact in many cases they had the children locked up and deported the parents with no way to find the parents again.

So don't fall for the PR hack and Trump supporter lies being told here.

It is just so fucking much worse than that. I will track down the stories later but I have been watching a Congressional Hearing today on the child separation and even after all this trauma and time when a DHS official was just asked how many children were separated from their parents they could not even tell Congress that let alone where they are and how many have not been united with their parents.

Can you fucking believe that? Our government can't even give the number of kids they separated. Let alone have records on them or even where they are at.

And I have seen no evidence at all that these kids were finger printed. I think shootersa is just making that up because that was how it was done by previous administrations. But you defeat his point anyway because without records finger prints are useless. Which is why the government is actually having to do DNA tests to match up kids and their parents. Which is both time consuming and expensive just because they were too incompetent to have record keeping procedures in place before they started kidnapping children.

 

Fucking fraud.
You didn't read the law, did you?

Yes, when apprehended at the border those kids are fingerprinted. They have to be.
First, every person apprehended has to be fingerprinted to determine things like;
1) There is an existing record, you know, like the person was deported before. If so, we're talking felony, not simple deportation.
2) If they are a suspected terrorist
3) If they are wanted somewhere
4) If they are a gang member
5) To record them for posterity. You know, in case they come back again or are granted asylum.

Second, lets assume the despicable conspiracy theory is true; Border Patrol/ICE is grabbing these kids and spiriting them to state agencies, dropping them off in the night with no records or documentation, and slipping away in the dark.

So, any kid over about 4 knows their name and how they got to the border.
That alone is enough to give any child welfare agency a start on identifying who they are and their story.
Once they know that, the policy of reunification kicks in, and the kid is reunified with family in very short order, whether in this country or not. This part is not rocket science. "Hi, what's your name?" "Estavio Gutierezz" Where you from Estavio? Guatamala. My dad and I walked to the border and asked for asylum. Can I talk to my dad?"

So, given that no matter what the Feds do, the majority of these kids will know who they are, why would the feds engage in some conspiracy to hide their identity and force them into foster care.

Third, given the goal of reunification as a policy at every Federal, State, and private child care agency, identifying parents/family is a critical first step. A step not lightly glossed over by these agencies or the courts that issue the orders.

Now, we have an issue with some ILLEGAL migrants being "tricked" into giving up their parental rights.

The question then becomes, how the fuck does ICE/Border Patrol a) know the parent even has a kid to give up rights to and b) who that kid is?
The feds have records. Count on it. No matter what wrong story infers.

And, for those who actually opened the link and read the law;
Even where the parents give up parental rights, what rights does the child still have in that regard?

For the lazy fucks who don't bother to read the law the answer is simple;
The child STILL has a right to oppose termination of parental rights, and no attorney representing a kid (called a guardian ad litem) is going to not oppose termination of parental rights in this kind of case.

 

Oh hell this is funny. Sit there and scream about what should have happened in the child separation instead of overwhelming proof, including Congressional testimony today, the reality is that is not what happened.

And its all right there. Not some big leftist plot just to hurt Trump. It is documented by our own government, evidence, including in courts of law, videos, testimony, eyewitnesses. It is real.

So blind parrot Trump supporters can howl at the moon all the want about what should have happened just because they say so. But that is not the undeniable reality.

And I don't even know how someone lives that wants to deny reality. Especially when they never have to take my word for it. a 30 second google search have plenty of stories from reliable sources. But you w0uld have to step away from the right wing false propaganda noise machine and really take a look.

 

Do any of the rest of you ever get a good laugh out of the guy who never posts any proof of his own constantly demanding proof from others?

But anyway one thing I did not expect to see in the Whitaker hearing today was he and the DOJ getting crucified on Child Separation. And it wasn't just far fetched things. It was policy, and memos, and timelines. and court actions that ripped the mask off the incompetence of Trump and his administration, and the senseless cruelty and damage to children.

Whitaker was not ready for it and his pat dodges didn't work. Because he was Sessions Chief of Staff. And he might have been able to dodge responsibility but not knowledge of what Sessions and the DOJ were doing.

And once again the impact of so many women being elected to the House was nothing short of impressive. Because they understand the bonds between mother and child and went after Whitaker accordingly. And just savaged him and his cowardice in their face.

 

Shooter has posted his proof.
So far, fraud, you've offered wrong story type proof and despicable spew points.

Pu up or shut up fucking fraud.

 

Well, its been almost 24 hours and the fraud and his gang have disappeared.

Guess they have run out of lies and bullshit on this topic.

A classic case of reality trumping (pun intended) liars, hypocrites and frauds.

 

Trump must have gone to the golf course...slow news day.

 

Wait wait wait wait wait.

Is *this* a declared victory?

 

"Won"?
Who was keeping score?

 

Fucked if I know.

You were asked several times to clarify and didn’t. So I’m asking if this is what a declared victory looks like, because nobody talks like this but you.