This is worth , examination ,
another Libby lefty brainstorm

 

So SIR you ate buying a call fired motorcycle to say our environment .this is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life

 

Ban tesla why I see plenty of them driving around here the piece of shits
Actually a beautiful car if you're going across town . And back home real fast actually very fast car .

 

@Sanity_is_Relative you and I Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez should get along fine. Maybe you can take her for a ride on your coal fired motorcycle .

 

Ok Truthless1, let's explain this one. You and your kind refuse to move from coal and oil and the limited resources to make electricity, and to stick to the most polluting possible methods of everything that you can and then you attempt to think that because I am buying an electrical motorcycle that I am the problem?
That is the most absolutely idiotic, uneducated, and quite honestly dishonest position any person could ever hold. No-one, is as of now calling for a 100% dissolvement from use of fossil fuels as a form of power generation, they are calling for them to be phased out over years and decades, while putting in pace cleaner, more sustainable sources that are easier to harness and to maintain. Here is the real issue with people like you, you never got the memo that the self charging circuit was designed and proven for use in a generator system; meaning that they invented a generator (small scale) that not only can power electric lights, a welder, and almost anything without the need for outside anything.
This fucking scares the hell out of the oil and coal industries and the people that are heavily backed by and backing these companies, you know the politicians and the stockholders. The people that want these resources to continue to bring in billions of dollars per year in pure profits have a vested interested in insuring that they stay on top, hell that is why most power providers are fighting tooth and nail to stop roof-top solar, personal wind turbines, and even large scale versions; that is why they fight against solar farms, wind farms, hydro-electric without dams, and all other renewable sources.
Give up kiddo you will lose this fight.

 

If you have ever owned anything that runs my battery . You will quickly learn batteries suck and don't last very long. I don't care what quality they are . i'm getting rid of a battery is really environmentally friendly .thats a joke I shouldn't have to explain that but I know how liberals are .

 

Maybe Motorcycles should have motors. I would think they are quieter and less smelly to live with than ones with engines.

 

As some one who rides motorcycles i have 2 a scout and a ninja 650 NO I would never buy a electric bike. There is a feel you get from your motor on a bike the moment you crank that throttle that a electric bike could never give you. Cars i can being electric but not bikes

 

Interestingly ,
in reality , many probably are ,
or almost certainly are ,
since currently about

80% of the worlds electricity is generated from coal , coal powered.

After all ,
all electric vehicles are actually powered by the generation system that charges their batteries ,
or runs their generators.
(thinking diesel elactrc , for example)

(so in this country , they are mostly hydro or geothermal powered)

 

A couple of years ago electric vehicle purchases were only about 21,000 units throughout Europe and last year t he number jumped to over 100,000, EVs are picking up steam as newer more renewable forms of energy production become more common. More and more coal plants are being taken off-line as the are obsolete and natural gas is more efficient, cost effective, and more plentiful. Nuclear is another option, while there is a risk of a melt down more people would accept that risk than would accept the bevy of risks included with coal. In areas with rivers hydro-electric is another source that provides continuous power supplies and in coastal areas there is always tidal hydro-electric, these both do little harm to their surroundings if they are smart enough not to build more dams and instead use vortex turbines that do not harm the aquatic life at all. Solar, wind, geothermal, and even captured regeneration technologies are similar ideas but can be interrupted easily by something as simple as snow. There was an inventor that decided to build a small power generator that did not use any type of fuel to power its-self, he built a self-charging circuit that took a part of the motors output to power its-self while powering multiple other devices and charging a battery to start the system as well as a capacitor bank to smooth out power supply to the fuse block and outlets. He began simply with just a light bulb and proceeded to add more load to the system. in the end he was powering a 220V MIG welder, several work lights, a grinder, and a radio and not once did his invention falter. Now the real question we should all be asking is why do we not have more of these types of generators? The same reason the EV1 from Chevrolet failed. The oil and gas industries attacked the very idea and told people that using these products would crush jobs, ruin the economy, were less efficient, costlier, and were unreliable; they spent millions of dollars convincing societies that their oil, coal, and gas were the best solution for all.

 

Hmmm, how can I explain this so 'you' will understand. Hmm... Ah! I know!

yUu am bUmd...

Hush....an alias

 

OK let's see if the OP can understand this.
As of the end of 2017 there are no new coal fired plants even in the planning stages, in 2011 their total power generation for the continental US was 340, 052 megawatts, but the end of 2017 that number was 278,823 megawatts total. These plants are closing at a break neck pace because coal mines and companies are dying off due the massive cost of accessing that coal. Gas, and renewables are the future. Coal is dying same as the people that worked the mines.

 

11 maps that explain the US energy system
By Brad Plumer@bradplumerbrad@vox.com Jun 12, 2014, 3:20pm EDTSHARE
Want to see what America's energy infrastructure looks like — all those power plants and coal mines and oil wells and transmission lines? The Energy Information Administration just released a new new mapping tool laying it all out.

Below I've pulled out 11 maps of interest, but you can customize the maps in any way you want (or zoom in to see state-level details or look at individual congressional districts).

1) Coal still provides 37% of electricity — but it's dropping fast
This map shows every coal plant in the contiguous United States:



In 2012, there were 557 coal plants in the United States, generating about 37 percent of the nation's electricity — the biggest single source of power.



But coal has also fallen out of favor in recent years. For one, a glut of cheap natural gas from fracking operations has steadily eroded coal's share and forced power-plant operators to close many of their older, less efficient plants. Between 2010 and 2012, electric utilities retired 145 generators, with an average age of 55 years old.

There's also pollution and climate change to consider. Coal emits plenty pollutants when burned — including the greenhouse gases responsible for global warming. Various new regulations from the Environmental Protection Agency on mercury, sulfur-dioxide, and carbon-dioxide are likely to put further pressure on coal plants to retire in the years ahead. (Though even with those rules, the EPA expects coal to provide 30 percent of the nation's electricity in 2030.)

2) Natural gas has been surging — and now provides 30% of our electricity
This second map shows all the large natural-gas power plants in the contiguous United States:



Natural gas plants tend to be smaller, easier to build, and emit fewer conventional pollutants than coal plants — so they're more widespread. In 2012, there were 1,714 natural gas plantsproviding about 30 percent of the nation's power.

Natural gas is still a fossil fuel, though it tends to be cleaner than coal when burned for electricity — emitting fewer conventional pollutants like sulfur-dioxide and about half as much planet-warming carbon-dioxide. In the past, one major downside of natural gas was that prices could fluctuate wildly. But with the recent fracking boom, many analysts are predicting that cheaper natural gas will be plentiful for decades — and hence play a bigger role in the electricity sector.

3) Nuclear power has flatlined, but still provides 19% of our electricity
Here are all the nuclear power plants in the United States:




There are currently 62 nuclear power plants in operation containing 100 reactors. Those reactors provide 19 percent of the nation's electricity — without emitting any heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

JUST FIVE NEW NUCLEAR REACTORS ARE BEING BUILT

In recent years, however, a few reactors have started closing, under pressure from cheap natural gas and wind power, plus rising maintenance costs. At the same time, many power plant operators have managed to squeeze more power out of their existing reactors (a practice known as "uprating"), which has helped nuclear power maintain its share.

Relatively few people are building new reactors these days — there are just five in the works at existing sites in Tennessee, Georgia, and South Carolina. In general, the high cost of nuclear plants is a deterrent (these five reactors are all being built in highly regulated states where utilities can recoup their costs by raising rates). The key question is how quickly existing plants might retire in the years ahead. The EPA's recent climate rules give states some incentives to keep their nuclear reactors open for longer.

4) Hydropower is the largest renewable source, providing 7% of our electricity
This map shows hydroelectric dams around the country:



Hydropower is, by far, the biggest source of renewable power in the United States. In 2012, there were 1,426 hydroelectric dams providing 7 percent of the nation's electricity.

But not all dams are equal. The massive dams in the West provide a disproportionate amount of electricity — Washington, home of the Grand Coulee Dam, produces nearly one-third of the nation's hydropower. But there are small dams around the country providing more modest jolts of power.

It's unlikely that the United States will ever build any more massive dams — most of the best sites are already tapped, and dams can be controversial. (No one's going to dam up the Grand Canyon, for instance.) Still, one recent analysis suggested that the country could eke out even more hydropower by adding generators to existing dams that don't already have them.

5) Wind power is surging in the Midwest and Great Plains
Here's a map of the major wind farms in the contiguous United States:




Wind has been rising fast, albeit from a low base. In 2008, wind provided about 1 percent of the nation's electricity. That rose to 3.6 percent in 2012 and 4.1 percent in 2013.

There are two big reasons for that rapid growth: The federal government has provided both tax credits and subsidies (with a big boost in the 2009 stimulus bill). What's more, many states now have laws requiring utilities to get a certain portion of their electricity from renewables. (One notable exception here is the Southeast.)

The federal government may be withdrawing some of that support — it's not clear whether Congress will renew a key tax credit for wind power in the years ahead. Still, the costs of wind have fallen sharply in recent years, and some analysts expect it will continue growing regardless (albeit more slowly) in places like the Midwest and the Great Plains.

6) Solar is also growing fast, though is still fairly tiny
The map below shows large solar power plants around the country (it doesn't, though, show every last rooftop solar panel system):


The flip side, though, is that solar-panel prices have been plummeting fast. Indeed, some utilities have worried that as more and more people install photovoltaic systems on their roofs, that could cut into energy sales. David Crane, CEO of NRG Energy, has called these trends "a mortal threat to the existing utility system."

7) All those power plants require a lot of transmission lines
Here's a map of all the major (345 kV or more) transmission lines in the contiguous United States:



The regulation of the US power grid is insanely complicated — and it tends to be really tough to build big new transmission lines (say, if you want to transport electricity from a giant new wind farm out in the Great Plains to population centers).

8) Coal mining is shifting from Appalachia to out West
Here's a map of all the major coal mines in the United States:



Judging by this map alone, you'd get the impression that Appalachia is the center of coal country. But in fact, that's no longer true.


COAL MINING IN APPALACHIA IS IN DECLINE

Ever since the late 1990s, more of America's coal has come from west of the Mississippi — particularly from Wyoming — than from the East. And that trend is likely to continue for some time.

There are a few reasons for that. The coal out West tends to be lower in sulfur, which is useful for US coal plants that are trying to cut their sulfur-dioxide emissions in response to pollution regulations. What's more, states like Kentucky and West Virginia have already mined much of their easiest-to-reach coal seams — and many areas are now in decline.

Coal production is expected to take a hit in the future if the EPA's new climate rules lead to a decrease in coal-fired electricity. Some of the coal from Wyoming and elsewhere may start to get exported abroad, although that's a bit harder to predict.

9) The US produces about 60% of the oil it needs
This map shows every oil well in the lower 48 states (there are also quite a few in Alaska, although they're not shown):



It's worth noting that US oil production is actually growing — and fast.

US OIL PRODUCTION IS GROWING FAST

By November 2013, the United States was producing 7.8 million barrels of crude oil each day, the most in a quarter-century. Oil production is now expected to keep growinguntil it reaches a peak of 9.6 million barrels per day in 2019.

Why the uptick? New fracking and horizontal drilling techniques have allowed oil companies to extract more oil from shale rock and other difficult formations. Advances in offshore drilling have also played a role.

That also means US oil imports are slowly shrinking. In 2012, the US relied on foreign countries for about 40 percent of the oil it uses. That's expected to keep shrinking in the decades ahead, as both domestic production increases and consumption drops (the US economy is becoming more oil-efficient and the growth in driving has slowed).

10) But that oil first has to make it to refineries to be useful
This map shows the pipelines that take oil to refineries (shown in squares), which refine oil into gasoline and other fuels for our cars, homes, airplanes, and so forth.




This map can also help shed light on a number of contemporary energy disputes.

For instance, a lot of oil is being dug up from the tar sands in Alberta, Canada. But there aren't enough pipelines (or railways) to bring that oil to refineries. That's why oil companies (and Canada) want to build the Keystone XL pipeline — to bring that tar sands oil down to refineries in Texas.

Oil companies have also argued that there's not enough refining capacity down in Texas to handle the recent boom in oil production in North Dakota and elsewhere. They'd like to lift the longstanding ban on exporting crude oil from the United States — in order to boost the price.

11) The shale boom is upending the US energy landscape
This map shows shale plays of oil and gas (in brown), as well as tight gas plays (in blue):



The rise of new fracking and horizontal drilling technologies has made many of these resources newly accessible. There are currently more than 63,000 shale oil wells and shale gas wells around the country. Much of the activity is concentrated in Texas, North Dakota, Louisiana, and the Marcellus Shale region in the East.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 63,000 SHALE OIL AND SHALE GAS WELLS

The shale boom has reshaped the American energy landscape. Domestic production of oil and natural gas has risen sharply, leading to cheaper energy and a reduced reliance on imports.

Advocates often argue that fracking is creating jobs, boosting manufacturing, and helping to tackle global warming by reducing the amount of coal we use. Opponents often argue that the industry is poorly regulated, the global warming benefits are overhyped, and that fracking has led to increased air and water pollution around the country.

(You can read about the shale boom — and its consequences — in much, much more detail in our fracking card stack.)

 

Keep trying SIR . You teach me how to spell and I'll teach you about the REAL WORLD

 

Electrical powered transport has to make economic sense. If your calculations suggest it does not, you can be sure you're undervaluing the environmental damage of the counterfactual scenario.

Put a value on no water resilience, uninsurable extreme events...the list is endless.

If your country is big enough and your grid is deep enough, and you're interconnected with your neighbouring countries, there's always wind and sunshine somewhere.

 

So, regarding the OP's post, please let me sum up so we can all move on.

Tard in >>>> tard out.

Hush....an alias

 

Oklahoma City is the 7th windiest in the United States.