stumbler said: ↑
I have actually been condemning, denouncing, and battling with Antifa members and their supporters ever since Charlottesville and told them straight up they are no better than the KKK, the neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, the white nationals, and the alt-right. And I have pointed out it is stupid, dangerous, and counter productive to even think you can fight hate and violence with hate and violence. And I am not the only one.

Pelosi condemns ‘violent actions’ of antifa protesters


stumbler said: ↑
I rest my case.

But in the meantime while I personally oppose and condemn the use of violence by Antifa at least they are not the ones bring guns to protests.

'We're not racists': Private militias bring uncertainty and weapons to protests



stumbler said: ↑
On other sites I have been arguing with actual members of Antifa and told them their approach and advocating violence is stupid, counter productive, and downright dangerous.

I have pointed out to them that it is just plain stupid to even think you can fight hate and violence with hate and violence. And that in that respect there really isn't any difference between them and the KKK, neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, white nationalists, and the alt-right. I have also pointed out that the only reason the Civil Rights Movement succeed is because Martin Luther King was smart enough to see that non-violent protest was the only thing that would succeed. It was just peacefully standing and/or sitting there without fighting back in the face of clubs, and bull whips, fire hoses, and attacking police dogs that sickened the nation and brought public support to their side and against racism, hate, and segregation. When if they had fought back that would not have happened and people would have thought it was both sides.

It is also counter productive because even though there is no real comparison between them and the KKK, neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, white nationalists, and the alt-right their violence at protests sure makes it look like they are just as bad or even worse and gives lots of people the chance to make the false claim that the left is as violent and hate filled as the right. And it also clouds all the issues. It causes the press, or even gives the press the excuse, to not cover the actual issues of hate, bigotry, and racism, and instead stick to their favorite ratings generator of sensationalism.

But the real problem is their approach is downright dangerous. The reality is the fascist have won and now control the highest levels of our government. That is just the sad facts right now. And so not being great students of history as they try to claim they don't see the real danger or how easy it would be to repeat history again. I point out that the way Hitler actually gained all the power he needed to become a dictator is he sent out the SA to brawl with those protesting him. And then even though they had deliberately instigated it Hitler pointed at the violence and chaos in the streets and said he needed to declare an national emergency to restore order. And as soon as he declared a state of emergency it was all he needed to shut down the press, eliminate all his political opponents, seize total control, and vault the Nazis to power.

Which is why I am out there actively opposing and condemning Antifa and telling them they are really stupid, counter productive and dangerous fucks that actually need to be put in jail where they can become butt buddies with the KKK, neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, white nationalists, and the alt-right.


Hey General Butt Nugget;
You do see the irony in your response to Shooters post, right?
You were making a funny, right?

 

Yeah I am pretty sure this is just another one of your fake news hoaxes. I've looked all over the internet for any stories of violent confrontations and this is all I'm finding.

Far-right extremists Proud Boys outnumbered by counter-protesters at Washington, DC, rally

https://www.yahoo.com/news/far-extremists-proud-boys-outnumbered-163717550.html

 

"More open violence from the radicals" would be more fitting.

 

HAPPY FOURTH: Liberal Mob Filmed Burning American Flag Outside White House on Independence Day

The mob appeared to torch an American flag.
Jul 4, 2019
By

Richard Moorhead




A group of liberal protestors chose to celebrate the anniversary of America’s founding on July 4th in a unconventional manner: burning the American flag.

The progressives were protesting outside of the White House against President Donald Trump’s planned Independence Day parade. The glorious parade featured M1 Abrams Tanks and a robust presence of American armed forces.


The mob goes on to engage in anti-American chants, repeating that “America was never great” and claiming that the nation represented “slavery, genocide and war.”



At one point in the video a scuffle appears to break out. It’s unclear if some in the crowd were genuinely opposed to the burning of the American flag, or if they simply recognized a public burning(that appeared to employ a burning liquid) as a safety hazard that would likely incur police attention.

As normal Americans celebrate their country with their family, friends and neighbors, sick progressives seem intent on putting on a grotesque display with no apparent point.

Perhaps the mere prospect of patriots enjoying themselves is enough to get the left out in droves in an attempt to ruin the festivities, without the slightest concern for decency.

The leftist mob appeared to wield a burning American flag in dangerous proximity to a uniformed Secret Service officer.

 

JOE BIGGS: Antifa’s Molotov Cocktails Are Why We Need To End Domestic Terrorism
Jul 15, 2019
By

Tom Pappert



After a member of Antifa, armed with a rifle and Molotov cocktails, wreaked havoc at a migrant detention center in Washington state this weekend, Joe Biggs, an Army veteran, reporter, and political activist, says it is more important than ever for patriots to speak out against the group.

Biggs, along with Enrique Tarrio and other organizers, is planning a End Domestic Terrorism rally in Portland, Oregon on August 17 in the wake of the violence against Andy Ngo and last weekend’s stunning attack on a migrant detention center from a self-identified member of Antifa.

Speaking to Big League Politics, Biggs said that the weekend saw “A 69 year old guy who carried out an attack on an ICE facility, and he came with weapons and Molotov cocktails.”

“That’s pretty insane. Not only do these people openly talk about committing violence on social media, they are actively committing acts of domestic terrorism within the country, and social media is doing nothing to stop it.”



Biggs, who was banned by Twitter for pledging to defend himself against Antifa, also lamented big tech’s willingness to let these individuals say on their platforms.

“These big tech companies are idly sitting by while they carry these things out,” said Biggs. “These people are willing to take up arms, they’re willing to learn to mix chemical compounds, and they’re willing to use deadly force to go against who ever they deem to be fascist.”

“I’ve got a friend who is now a Puerto Rican Nazi, and I’ve got many black Nazi friends, because they just throw this label onto all these people,” he added. “And Antifa believes it.”

The combat veteran also stressed that Antifa wants to bring communism to American shores, and will attack anyone they believe stands in their way.


“The true enemy is this Antifa organization,” said Biggs. “They are communists. They want communism in America, and we need to call it as it is.”

“That’s why this rally is important,” Biggs added. “We’re a nation of laws, this country will never be a communist country.”

Biggs also explained that he wants Antifa to know that, should they rally in public with the implied or overt threat of violence, they will face patriots willing to peacefully stand for America wherever they go.

“My goal is to peacefully strike fear into Antifa, to the point where they don’t even want to show up to these events anymore,” said Biggs. “We can do that without violence. We can do that without needing to have bloodshed.”

Biggs explained that he first decided to hold the Stop Domestic Terrorism rally after witnessing what happened to Ngo, and first called Ngo offering to run security for him at future events.

“When you start talking brain bleeds, that’s serious,” said Biggs.

He also told Big League Politics that he expects bad actors to come to the rally in an attempt to make the attendees look dangerous, and disavowed any form of racism or identity politics.

When asked how Antifa’s tactics compares to those he saw while on tours in Iraq in the United States Army, Biggs said they are beginning to use the same tactics he saw in the Middle East.

“They’re using tactics you would see from insurgents,” said Biggs. “You’re starting to see some of these close quarter combat, insurgent type tactics being used. The homemade explosives, the Molotov cocktails, the way they probe to see how you’re going to act to find your weaknesses when they attack.”

“Using black bloc, where someone will jump out and throw a punch or hit you with a weapon and then slowly slip behind this wall of people so those people can be hidden and concealed.” Biggs added, “These are tactics that are used in combat all the time, and they’re taking on extremely militant ways to fight in the street.”

Biggs explained this is why the August 17 rally’s security will be heightened, complete with former police officers and former Navy SEALS in attendance to provide security. Biggs also extensively explained the tactics that will be used to ensure the Stop Domestic Terrorism rally remains safe and non violent. Big League Politics will not expose these tactics to ensure security for the event.

“There’s going to be a lot of people,” said Biggs. “There’s a lot of anger, and my job is going to be to make sure cooler heads prevail and we do the right thing.”

Biggs says he is expecting “at least 1,000” people to attend the rally. He also told Big League Politics that those who attend will be instructed not to pay for food, hotels, or other accommodation within the city of Portland, as the mayor has repeatedly refused to name Antifa or work to limit the violence in the city.

The End Domestic Terrorism rally is scheduled for August 17 in Portland, Oregon.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/cnn-antifa-ice-glorified.amp

Does anyone even care that antifa attacked the ICE center in Washinton?

Certainly not CNN.

 

No - CNN glorifies Antifa and literally helps them raise funds.
This attack on the ICE center should be the last straw, bringing the full weight and ferocity of American Law Enforcement down on these mad dogs.

 

During the War in Vietnam left wing extremists looked forward to a revolution. Now right wing extremists look forward to a civil war.Left wing extremists were brash kids who had never been in a fist fight before. Right wing extremists usually have military experience and guns, so they could create problems.

 

Jesus, dog.
Where did your thought about right wing extremists wanting a revolution come from?

Yer socks???

 

Wouldn't act on an offensive, but if the revolution comes, I'm ready to spray back in defense.

 

VIDEO: Ilhan Omar Cackles After Journalist Asks Her to Condemn ANTIFA Violence

Rep. Ilhan Omar was caught laughing on camera as a journalist asked her to condemn the Antifa Firebomber.
Jul 16, 2019
By

Tom Pappert




Believing she was off camera, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) was cackling on camera after a Rebel journalist asked whether she would condemn the Antifa Firebomber and the violent behavior of the loosely associated group.

Video journalist Keean Bexte repeatedly asked Omar and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to disavow the Antifa Firebomber who attacked a migrant detention facility in Tacoma, Washington last weekend. Apparently believing she was not on camera as she entered a vehicle, Omar is seen laughing maniacally as the journalist continued to ask questions, a reaction that audibly threw Bexte off kilter and appeared to shock the journalist.

“Do you feel responsible at all? Will you tell Americans not to be violent anymore? Antifa to be,” he stammered, noticing Omar laughing in the next seat over, “to be exact? Should Antifa stop being violent?”

On Twitter, Bexte wrote “After repeatedly asking @İlhanand @AOC if they would condemn the Antifa firebomber, and if they felt partly responsible, the two got into their SUV and Omar (likely thinking she was off camera) burst into ear to ear laughter.” He added, “Was there ever a doubt Omar hated America?”


Keean Bexte@TheRealKeean

After repeatedly asking @Ilhan and @AOC if they would condemn the Antifa firebomber, and if they felt partly responsible, the two got into their SUV and Omar (likely thinking she was off camera) burst into ear to ear laughter. Was there ever a doubt Omar hated America?



https://twitter.com/i/status/1150956126671900673






Over the weekend, President Donald Trump suggested Omar and her associates should consider leaving the United States if they hate the country, and was roundly accused of racism as a result. Omar, who previously referred to those who perpetrated the horrific terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 as “some people” who “did something”, has a long track record of appearing to loathe the United States.



President Donald Trump bulldozed the mainstream press when badgered about his tweets criticizing left-wing congresspeople. The mainstream media reporters consistently interrupted the president at his “Made In America” event, where Trump pointed out that Ilhan Omar “hates Israel” and “hates Jews.” While the media was focused on his tweets, Trump imposed a new rule that will probably block most Central American migrants from entering the country.


Should Omar decide to take President Trump’s advice and return to her native Somalia, she would not likely enjoy the same freedom to deride her country and those living in it.

Just yesterday, Big League Politics reported that an “inspirational” journalist who sought to portray a hopeful image of Somalia, largely considered a failed state, was brutally murdered in a terrorist attack at one of the country’s hotels.



An “inspirational journalist” who set out to portray a hopeful image of Somalia was murdered in Somalia in a terrorist attack days ago, marking yet another tragedy for Democrat Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar’s home country. President Donald Trump has challenged progressive members of Congress to return to their homelands to address the humanitarian and political crises gripping the Third World.

The BBC reports: “While most coverage of Somalia focused on civil war, militancy and famine, Hodan Nalayeh made it her mission to show another side to the country – its beauty and that of its people.

Her desire to focus on the positive and ultimately inspire young Somalis around the world to help rebuild the country made her famous – and her death in Friday’s attack on a hotel in the southern city of Kismayo has prompted an outpouring of grief.

Interestingly, women’s rights in Somalia were obliterated after the country embraced radical Islam in 1991. It is unlikely Omar would be allowed to go out in public without a male escort or even drive a car, let alone run for political office and use said office to bash the country and its leadership.

 

Oh hey look, @Distant Lover's girlfriend is at it again. This hateful Anti-Semite bigot and DL are just alike.

Anti-Semite Ilhan Omar Compares Jewish Israel To Nazi Germany
Posted at 1:00 pm on July 18, 2019 by Bonchie



Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., listens as Office of Management and Budget Acting Director Russell Vought testifies before the House Budget Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, March 12, 2019, during a hearing on the fiscal year 2020 budget. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

But do tell me more about the grave dangers of some randos chanting stupid crap at a Trump rally.

Ilhan Omar, apparently emboldened by recent events, decided it’d be a good idea to drop a resolution supporting the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction movement this week. That’d be the same BDS movement that even Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer directly called anti-Semitic just weeks ago.

While that would have been bad enough, she also decided it wasn’t insensitive and racist at all to use the resolution to compare Jewish Israel to (checks notes)…Nazi Germany.

This via the Washington Examiner.

Omar introduced a resolution Tuesday in support of groups wanting to boycott Israel while comparing them to the American Jews who boycotted Nazi Germany.

“Americans of conscience have a proud history of participating in boycotts to advocate for human rights abroad, including … boycotting Nazi Germany from March 1933 to October 1941 in response to the dehumanization of the Jewish people in the lead-up to the Holocaust,” the Minnesota Democrat’s resolution stated.

In the hearing, Omar also compared the boycotts of Israel to the Boston Tea Party.

Yes, that’s Omar directly comparing opposing Nazi Germany to opposing Jewish Israel, because they are pretty much the same thing right?



I mean, is there really a difference between a genocidial regime built on delusions of world domination and a small, democratic Jewish state that actually provides medical care for its adversaries and does everything it can to avoid collateral damage, even in the face of constant violent aggression? And it’s not like Nazi Germany sought to exterminate the Jews, necessitating the need for Israel.

Keep in mind, this is the same Ilhan Omar who called sanctions against a brutal dictator in Venezuela “bullying” and would lift sanctions on Iran tomorrow if she could. Yet, for some reason, her tactics toward Israel are different. Now, what could possibly be the distinction present driving her selectiveness in who she wants to boycott, divest, and sanction? Maybe some valiant media outlet should ask her.

This is blatant antisemitism on display. But no one outside of the right will care. The Democrats will excuse it, the media won’t even cover it, and the double standards will continue. If you care about people chanting at a Trump rally, you should care about Omar’s antisemitism.

If you don’t, you are being disingenuous and don’t deserve to have your outrage heard.

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So what. I cackled too as soon as I saw the headline and and who wrote it.

Hey thanks. I want to get a hold of members of congress to tell them they really need to vote for Rep Ilhan Omar's resolution supporting the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction movement the same BDS movement.

I have been trying to help promote BDS all I can and I am really glad to see a member of Congress that has enough courage to stand up against Israel, And opposing the government and policies of Israel does not make someone antisemitic. That is a right wing lie., And there are millions of us that feel the same way.

So what are you going to do about that? Send us all back?

 

Pentagon Contractor Allegedly Threatened to Kill Congresswoman Over Vaccine Bill
Feds charged Darryl Varnum in late June after he told a member he was ‘gonna kill your ass if you do that bill.’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/penta...n-frederica-wilson-over-vaccine-bill?ref=home

 

You cackle because you are mentally insane...

I think it's funny how your boyfriend @Distant Lover runs around this forum trying to suck your dick while your bash his true love child, Israel....


You two deserve each other.

 

My support for Israel is unconditional. The only Palestinians I care about are the Christian Palestinians. The rest should have been expelled right after the Six Day War. All the land Israel conquered should have been formally annexed. Few people in the United States would have complained. We were too busy celebrating Israel's glorious victory.

 

I would like for Ilhan Omar to be deported to Gaza. I do not know how it can be done legally, but I would like to see it happen. When she fled Somalia with her parents, they could have moved there. They did not. This is an area where I agree with Trump. Gaza is a fecal hole. If Ilhan Omar likes the Palestinians so much, she should live with them.

I am glad Obama increased U.S. aid to Israel by one billion dollars, and gave Israel the Iron Dome defense against Palestinian rockets. I am glad Trump moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. I am glad that in the United States support for Israel is not a political issue. Israel is the only civilized country in the Mid East.

 

This is kinda like watching The Simpsons and this episode centers around old dog Ralph Wiggum spouting non-sequiturs with his finger in his nose.

 

3 sentenced for violence at Virginia white nationalist rally

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) — Three members of a white supremacist group were sentenced Friday to between two and three years in prison for punching, kicking and choking anti-racism protesters at a white nationalist rally in Virginia and political rallies in California.

Members of the now-defunct Rise Above Movement were caught on camera assaulting counterprotesters before a planned "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville in August 2017.

Benjamin Daley, Michael Miselis and Thomas Gillen each pleaded guilty to conspiracy to riot. The men were sentenced Friday in U.S. District Court in Charlottesville by Judge Norman Moon.

Daley, 26, of Torrance, California, was sentenced to 37 months in prison. Gillen, 25, of Redondo Beach, California, received a sentence of 33 months. Miselis, 30, of Lawndale, California, received 27 months.

U.S. Attorney Thomas Cullen said the men were motivated by "hateful ideology."

"They were not interested in peaceful protest or lawful First Amendment expression; instead, they intended to provoke and engage in street battles with those that they perceived as their enemies," Cullen said in a statement.

Members of the California-based Rise Above Movement frequently posted photographs and videos of themselves engaging in mixed martial arts street-fighting techniques along with messages related to the white supremacy movement.

In court documents, prosecutors said that from March 2017 to August 2017, RAM members — including Daley, Gillen and Miselis — engaged in acts of violence at rallies and organized demonstrations in Charlottesville and in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California.

As part of their guilty pleas, the men acknowledged that they did not commit the acts in self-defense.

Attorneys for Miselis and Gillen did not immediately respond to requests seeking comment.

Daley's attorney, Lisa Lorish, said she and lawyers for Miselis and Gillen argued that prosecutors had not proved that a hate crime sentencing enhancement should apply in their cases. Lorish said Judge Moon denied the enhancement for all three men.

A fourth member of RAM, Cole Evan White, also pleaded guilty to a riot conspiracy charge and will be sentenced later.