"Indigenous people" or "First Nations" people in Canada have gotten a raw deal for many years and it is only recently that it is becoming "politically correct" to right those wrongs that they have been burdened with for far to long. Yes there are some that deserve what they get, just as white trash does but it is good to see that the current Liberal government has been forced to take a good hard look at integrating them into our great country that they helped to develop in the first place instead of simply handing out royalty cheques once a year to them and watching them piss it away in a few short weeks each year.

The "missing native women" issues are gaining steam and giving some closure as well ... no thanks to the RCMP that perpetuated the problem for far to long until they were "called onto the carpet" recently as well.

 

Total bullshit. Even by white historical estimates there were more than 10 million Native Americans in the US alone when Columbus arrrived. And that estimate is judged to be laugably low by many experts including Native Americans. But the one statistic most agree on is that 90% of the Native Americans were wiped out by diseases and genocide.

 

Nope. You have to watch Seinfeld. Backwards. Just like the Abbey Road album. But instead of hearing Paul is dead....

 

I cannot speak for all Native Americans but from hanging out on the reservation near where I live what most people don't realize is there are actually about two different sub-groups. One group is associated with all the social problems attributed to them; unemployment, and substance abuse being the primary two.

But the second group consists of the ones most people never see or hear of. And that group actually is not only employed and mostly drug and alcohol free they also have managed to retain a lot of their culture, traditions, and ceremonies. Which is remarkable considering that very concerted efforts on the part of the US government to wipe them out.

Also another thing many people don't realize is that one of the major factors that have impacted Native Americans is one of the things that hurt them the most was actually the US policy of taking Native American children away from their parents and putting them in "Indian Schools." With the end result being the loss of knowledge of how to be parents and family in some cases for generations. They are still trying to recover from that travesty.

 

One thing I can say about the whole "Political Correctness" issue is that maybe now we might see a drop in alcohol related deaths among "first people's" (approx 12%) as well as getting a handle on FASD ...

Not to condone alcohol abuse but if anyone has a reason to "have one too many" a certain segment of that demographic may well have.

 

In Canada we compounded the travesty of residential schools by putting the Catholic Church in charge of them.

 

Well said and I agree completely. We had "Residential Schools" in Canada that were worse than concentration camps back in the 40's that fucked up a lot of lives and those that managed to survive it are just now being compensated for the crimes against them. Sterilization was another barbaric weapon used against them.

I make it a habit to sit with Elders every time I go near a Reservation while on my business travels and if you have never spoken with an elder, you are missing out on something that will "alter your reality" regarding this topic.

 

People fail to recognize a LOT of things regarding the Native American Pacification (extermination, genocide, etc.) was in a number of ways. Past point blank slaughter of men, women and children which was always a favorite, and the debatable (in that though proof has been found for Canada it's unclear for the U.S. and elsewhere) use of disease, there was the matter of intentionally relocating Plains peoples in swamps, swamp dwelling peoples in deserts, desert dwelling hunters where there was no game just farming (though nothing would grow in that area).

You've got the Spanish literally smashing babies against rocks and roasting adults alive. Then there is the rape of women to "breed out" the race wherein noted leaders and scientists promoted eugenics, yet furthermore go on to state (in fact I just encountered another book noting this today) that because Native Americans were a "third race" between humans and monkeys that "God" put them here to be utilized as slaves for civilized (white) races to use...It further elaborated that since the N.A. did not understand or know of civilized law, governments and society, then they were akin to prostitutes (another downtrodden group) and therefor had no concept of white morality, then they could not "actually" be raped.....So it was okay.

It goes on and on.....and though I hesitated posting this in the past, the mindset is all too like another in this last century wherein another world leader praised the U.S. and Canada for their wise eradication of a race.



Hush....an alias

 

I bury my heart at Wounded Knee--Dee Brown. Should be required reading for all high school students.

 

Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump
World Heritage Site

Located in Alberta where the foothills of the Rocky Mountains meet the Great Plains, you will discover one of the world's oldest, largest, and best preserved buffalo jumps. The Jump bears witness to a method of hunting practiced by native people of the North American plains for nearly 6,000 years.

In 1981, the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) designated Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump as a World Heritage Site placing it among other world heritage monuments such as the Egyptian pyramids, Stonehenge and the Galapagos Islands.

This archaeological site, known around the world, preserves the remarkable history of the Plains People through the millennia. Because of their excellent understanding of the regional topography and bison behaviour, the native people were able to hunt bison by stampeding them over a cliff. They then carved up the carcasses and dragged the pieces to be butchered and processed in the butchering camp set up on the flats beyond the cliffs.

Information Guide to Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump (PDF - 3.75 MB)

http://www.history.alberta.ca/headsmashedin/

 

This has the potential to be a very racist thread. I an part Cherokee and part Choctaw. Tread lightly.

 

I hope guys now u can understand my point why i started this thread.Indians is an exampale to what goona happen to EUROPE. Islamisation is thier future....

 

There is no doubt what so ever that there were dark days in history, very dark indeed. We should be thankful the vast majority of the civilized world now have the capacity to understand how terribly wrong their ancestors were. We should never forget, lest we make the same errors again, but we should also not dwell on the ignorant sins of past generations. We had no control of that what so ever. The important thing is to move ahead and strive to undo the damage ignorance has wreaked upon native peoples. Last but not least we should focus our efforts on preventing ignorance rearing its ugly head in the middle east. We have the opportunity to prevent these senseless barbaric acts perpetrated by these modern day ignoramus's. This is where we should be focusing our energy.

 

The wholesome provocation of more 'WHITE GUILT'.

The native American's lost, just as every other civilization that has encountered the same fate in historical era's.

Luckily for y'all, the federal fucking government has the Native Americans on the 'protected species list' now.

 

That's what I have said for years.

 

Thanks for posting that, yet I'm going to use it to make a point...

People now-a-days are often all thrilled and passionate about Native American heritage....Yet frankly only in that the "people" are all but gone. So they'll name this for them, place a marker on some historic site, set up some little museum, and at the end of the day it plays out as not being much more than the same thing done for dinosaurs. It's a curiosity, historical entertainment, and it is all great, good and fine until an actual Native American shows up.

All of my life I have literally been an outcast in my own country. Now I can accept my youth in that my father and his supposed brothers were nothing more than 100% unadulterated white-trash who hated all other races (though I notice he had no problem basically enslaving and raping a Native American girl).

I can even accept that an entire region thought I was "less than" because those were simply the times, though you can imagine how brave it is for adults living well to threaten a child while calling them "half-breed, injun-trash, mongrel, etc." (add various vulgar adjectives after). In fact, I can even understand how even into the 90's there were still some staunch holdouts, and we're talking of the East (of Mississippi.), not out West.

.....Yet 2016? (my last brush with bigotry toward Native Peoples was 2015).

In 2014 my Husband and I took a month+ long trip out West to the Rockies and Great Plains. I can't even begin to count the number of casually spoken racist jokes and remarks about First Nations peoples I overheard. Then there were those comments asked of my Husband like "you like them squaws/injuns?" Then there were those comments muttered at me, and in a couple of cases were even flatly said to me.

More than that, the general consensus out West is mimicked back East. That being one of bluntly treating me different than any other person yet not for fear of offending, yet some subconscious concern that because I'm Native American I have the potential of "going off the reservation" at any moment. IOW, if I drink, or if something just strikes me wrong, that I might suddenly regress to some tomahawk wielding savage that has absolutely no self control.....and I know that from a couple of long conversations with folks....See, it's in my genes apparently because Native peoples are different. Something "less than civilized."

Worse still, I'm a 50/50 "Half-breed". So due to no design of my own I'm less than Caucasian, less than Native American, and if you get right down to it some flatly feel it is as though I have tainted their race be they Caucasian or indigenous.....So I get to be a race of "1" and I know that having caught flak from both sides.

The best part being? This is my ancestral homeland......"I" and 5 million others belong here. The other 314 million welcome newcomers. I ask for nothing, I take nothing, I don't want help and I don't want sympathy or even recognition. I don't even insist upon my fair share. So I feel little sympathy when immigrants start complaining about immigrants, tribal rights, Native benefits (that I don't accept) and so on.

So as I noted at the beginning, you have no idea how it really is. Native American's are viewed as a great part of "American" history. That is as long as you no longer exist. The purge of First Peoples in not yet over, and won't be until they're all gone.

Hush....an alias

 

Shooter holds the opinion that as soon as someone starts with "(insert racial characterization)" he expects what follows to be stupid.
This thread has convinced him it is a true opinion

 

Are you telling me Xnxx isn't a reliable source for statistics?

 

Racism is a crime?

 

It's all cool now if you're not Native American perhaps, providing that you have no heart or soul.