Id certainly be confident in saying that that 'Report' was full of shit. Now that is a fact !!!

 

These options are so extreme...... How can you answer this....like... The scope given is just so...bad...

 

For KOTHKO and Friends: How can DADA be a ridiculous and offensive tirade? Ms Schlussel is a commentator so she'll give the same PEW DADA as that stated below, but from her conservative point of view.... However, the numbers are the numbers.

IE: PEW findings. Perceived Support for Extremism among Muslims living in America.
Among Muslims born in this country, 32% see at least a fair amount of support for extremism, while 25% say there is no support.
By contrast, 15% of the general public believes that there is a great deal of support for extremism among Muslim Americans, and an additional 25% see a fair amount of support.
Very few Muslim Americans believe that support for extremism is increasing in the Muslim American community. Three-in-ten (30%) say the level of support for extremism is staying the same.

 

*sigh*
On its face that is bullshit.
If in fact a full third were bombers we would have had so so many major attacks since 9\11.....
And I'm su

 

I'm sure you are aware

 

That is not the case

 

I hear you. Howev

I hear you. However. There are no real stats on how many send dollars to terrorists. I suspect tis a very small number.
Most want a good life and freedom to worship how they see fit.

Btw, I do not think you have ever spent time with the average American muslim.
I have.

 

@Hardrive
That is an interesting question 490 has asked you.

Have you ever spent time with Muslims getting to know them?.

Do you have any Muslim friends?

 

Short answer, I think so. And, more Muslims should be encouraged to turn in the bad ones amongst them.
I have had a good report with them since the early 80s.

 

Ms S is a vile person who opens her mouth with little or no concern to shit that might come out, in fact it is fair to say that shit is exactly what does come out. But I digress, I thought I would give you all a few tidbits to mull over and ponder. If any of this seems at odds with what HD would have us believe and what Ms S apparently believes then you might want to ask yourself where on earth did I dig this shite from?? and well may you ask, of course the clever amongst you will know already

Overall Muslim Americans have a generally positive view of the larger society. Most say their communities are excellent or good places to live.

71% agree that most people who want to get ahead in the United States can make it if they are willing to work hard.

they are highly assimilated into American society. believe that they should try and adopt American customs, rather than trying to remain distinct from the larger society. And by nearly two-to-one (63%-32%) Muslim Americans do not see a conflict between being a devout Muslim and living in a modern society.

Muslim Americans reject Islamic extremism by larger margins than do Muslim minorities in Western European countries. However, there is somewhat more acceptance of Islamic extremism in some segments of the U.S. Muslim public than others.

Absolute levels of support for Islamic extremism among Muslim Americans are quite low,

According to newly released data collected in 11 countries with significant Muslim populations, people from Nigeria to Jordan to Indonesia overwhelmingly expressed negative views of ISIS.

in no country surveyed did more than 15% of the population show favorable attitudes toward Islamic State.

most people in several countries with significant Muslim populations have an unfavorable view of ISIS,

Favorable views of ISIS are somewhat higher in Nigeria (14%) than most other nations. Among Nigerian Muslims, 20% say they see ISIS favorably

More generally, Muslims mostly say that suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilians in the name of Islam are rarely or never justified,

In the United States, a 2011 survey found that 86% of Muslims say that such tactics are rarely or never justified. An additional 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified in these circumstances.

 

Okay, let me address this issue.

The actual (low number) of Muslims living in America that support Islamic extremism, as reported by PEW, is 32%. That may sound good as it is less them 50%, however we have to remember two very important things:

(1) most Muslims are not that forthcoming when it comes to telling us how they actually feel about favoring radical Islam. The actual percentage is probably much higher. However for the purpose of this post I will accept the percentage reported by PEW (32%), as well as the 32% that ROTHKO reported concerning the percentage of Muslims do see a conflict between being a devout Muslim and living in a modern society.

(2) We have to remember that 32% represents about a third of all Muslims living in the United States. If this were an election the good Muslims would win 2 to 1 but this is not an election. It's more of a gamble and if you were playing Russian Roulette and someone told you that playing the game would give you a one third chance of blowing your brains out... would you want to play?

The information we have above tells us that a third of Muslims living in America Do not feel that American values are compatible with being a Devote Muslim... and a third of the Muslims living in America support Islamic Extremism.

Putting aside the issue of the actual percentages, it does not make me feel safe and comfortable to know that a third of American Muslims choose to be Devote Believers of a barbaric ideology that has given us ISIS and scores of other Islamic Extremist groups and terrorist organizations. Neither is it comforting to know that a third of Muslims living in America support those same Islamic Extremist Organizations.

I don't think any of what has been posted here puts me at odds with what I've been trying to say or to have the readers of this tread understand and believe. Allowing Muslims to live amongst us is dangers to our culture and our lives. Therefore we must proceed with caution and with our eyes wide open.





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You people keep getting into the same trap.
As soon as someone starts with "Those (insert group) are always (insert despicable acts)"
You know what follows will be pretty much bullshit.

 

I could live with a nice young Islamic girl/woman as long as we were compatible and she liked to enjoy life. Hell she could fcuk me to death in the name of Mohamed.

 

Except in the case of "those Xcebians..."

 

We've already skipped over everything written explaining peaceful islam to us.
Don't make us do it again, please.

 

Moslems are commanded by Sharia law to lie to the infidel, so we cannot believe anything they say about anything. If you value your life it behooves you to hold the Moslem savage at arms' length and never take your eye off it.

Sympathizers of the filthy Saracens will protest that Sharia merely permits the goatherd to lie to the infidel. But the goatherd is also forbidden to aid the infidel in any way.

So it amounts to the same thing: if it speaks to you, it is lying.

 

haiderrocks aka bloody fucker also has a facebook and a twitter that kind of seems like a Muslim heretic...

 

People are challenging Harddrive on whether he has Moslem friends.

I have a good, amiable Moslem for a neighbor. Two houses down. A fully assimilated member of the community. I like him. We have exchanged lawn equipment. He and his family have attended our parties. A good friend.

Yet he is not a moderate Moslem. He himself will tell you that there is no such thing.

One is either Moslem, or one is not.

Those of you who are claiming to have Moslem friends and deign to speak for them sound much like Bronze Age's ridiculous tripe on a nearby thread, where he claims to have lots of gay friends, and then deigns to school us on what's going through their minds. He's full of shit, and so are you.

Yes, individuals of all stripes are wonderful people, just like us. Then the mob takes them, and absorbs them, and they are subsumed.

Just like the mob takes us, and absorbs us, and subsumes us.

Cat Stevens has written some of the most beautiful folk ballads of the 20th century. A peaceful, creative, amiable man.

Yet he supported the death sentence on Salman Rushdie.

Cat Stevens is not a moderate. He is a savage. An animal. A rusty scimitar in the glorious army that is the Saracen Horde.

 

Perhaps you would be better served starting off learning the vast difference between a Muslim and a Moslem. Start there then you can begin learning the rest.

Hush....an alias

 

Hush, you are so spot on with your observation of the vast difference in the spelling of Muslim and Moslem. That difference completely destroys Claris's argument. How could she be so ignorant???

Everyone knows that A Muslim, (sometimes spelled Moslem,) is used to describe a person who follows the religion of Islam, which is based on the teachings of the Quran. Muslims or Moslems consider the Quran to be the verbatim word of God as revealed to the Islamic prophet and messenger Muhammad. They also follow the sunnah teachings and the barbaric practices of Muhammad as recorded in traditional accounts called hadith.

Where as Moslems, (sometimes spelled Muslim,) relates to a person who follows the religion of Islam, which is based on the teachings of the Quran. The big difference is that Moslems or Muslims consider the Quran to be the verbatim word of God as revealed to the Islamic prophet and messenger Muhammad. They also follow the sunnah teachings and the barbaric practices of Muhammad as recorded in traditional accounts called hadith.

Thank you for pointing out the important distinction that will helps us all better understand this subject and advancing this discussion.