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Can Muslims live in America as fellow citizens?

  1. Yes they can. We should welcome them with open arms.

    46 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. No they can't. We should ban them from entering our country.

    42 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. Yes but only if they renounce the teachings of Mohammd and reform their religion.

    17 vote(s)
    16.2%
  1. Drigo

    Drigo Porno Junky

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    Yeah well, it's all about extremists. The fact is that 1/3 of the world's population is Muslim and they want to take over the world. Ie. bread everyone else out of existence. Frankly, this is scary as fuck.
     
  2. Earthboundhero

    Earthboundhero Porn Star

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    Muslims want to take over the world.


    REALLY NOW?
     
  3. Drigo

    Drigo Porno Junky

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    Yes, they do. To be frank, they want to eliminate Christianity and convert all to Islam. Islam is not a peaceful religion in my opinion.
     
  4. Drigo

    Drigo Porno Junky

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    Look at history in Europe... Muslims were fought back. Now, they are expanding population again. It's Christianity versus Islam and it will always be that. With Islam you get Islamic extremists.
     
  5. Earthboundhero

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    You're entitled to your own opinion. It's my opinion that the jihadist groups that actually do harm want little scared Christian boys that they can goad into some Chrisitanity vs Islam end of the world death match.

    I don't buy into either their propaganda or your fear...in my opinion both are useless tools being used to force people into bad decisions.

    Makes much more sense to recognize that there are good and bad Muslims like there are good and bad US citizens. There's good and bad cheeses and movies and parents.


    Generalizing and fear mongering is exactly what makes groups like ISIS more powerful.
     
  6. Drigo

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    The problem is that it is unknown which Muslims will convert to extremists. Ok, it's true that not all Muslims will kill innocent people in the name of Allah but some will. Furthermore, killing and rape are acceptable in the Quran.
     
  7. Earthboundhero

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    And slavery and sacrifices are condoned in the bible. What's your point?
     
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      The point? Try this is 2016, Christianity does not condone slavery and sacrifice today. Innocent Christians are being killed by Islamist's merely for believing in God. Innocent women in Europe are being molested and raped by hordes Islamic men. That is the point. Where in Europe are Christians killing Muslims merely for believing in Allah? Where in Europe are Christian men molesting and raping innocent women in hordes?
       
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      I was responding to the aforementioned claim about the Koran with something from the Bible. The point is extremism of any kind is stupid. If you read any holy book as a literal history of the world and use it to establish common law you're going to have some shit outcomes.

      I'm of the belief that despite the violence we see today the world is edging in a secular direction. Might just be wishful thinking.
       
      Earthboundhero, Jun 2, 2016
  8. Drigo

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    You know what? I believe in God but I'm not religious. In my opinion, religion has totally fucked up the world along with political correctness. ;)
     
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      Nah, not an excuse. No one can use "religion" as a excuse. You cannot tell me modern humans do not know right from wrong. Maybe you could use that excuse 1000 years ago, not today. Just won't fly.
       
  9. Drigo

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    My point is that Allah is shit and religion is shit. The Quran is trash and the bible is too. Religion fucked up the world. I believe in God but not religious.
     
  10. Earthboundhero

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    Not religious myself. I think it has done much harm. But I like to let people choose their own way to live as long as it hurts no one else.
     
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  11. Drigo

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    Haha in my country the incoming president called the mother of the Pope of Catholic Church a whore and is attacking the church. I believe in God, but again religion is shit and is the source of many wars.
     
  12. Earthboundhero

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    Why believe in God? Out of curiosity.


    I find the world works just fine without him.
     
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  13. Drigo

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    I just believe in a higher spiritual power which I call God. Truthfully, I believe it comes from people rather than something else. Religion, out of the question. I don't follow any.
     
  14. Distant Lover

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    You ask interesting questions. My take on things is that immigration is an issue where affluent citizens of the United States and Europe agree, although for different reasons. Elite conservatives know that immigration depresses wages, inflates prices, and so raises profits. Elite liberals are kind hearted - I really believe that - and are sympathetic to the Muslim immigrants because they know that they are escaping intolerable situations in the countries they are coming from. Affluent liberals live and work in safe - that is to say white - neighborhoods, so they have little contact with the immigrants they feel protective toward to. It is working class Europeans who pay the price for the ideals of their economic superiors.

    I doubt Saudi Arabia is bribing anyone, but I would not be surprised if they are.
     
  15. Distant Lover

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    The average IQ is Islamic countries is about 85. The average in Europe is 100. In the United States is is nearly that high. In Oriental countries it is even higher. Intelligence matters in war. Intelligent people develop better weapons. They have more sophisticated military strategies. If the Muslims push us hard enough we can kill most of them, although they will kill millions of us.

    As the human population continues to grow and to press against natural resources I predict massive famines, strange new diseases without any cures, and wars of annihilation. One can already see this beginning.
     
  16. Earthboundhero

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    Wait...where are you pulling that stat from @Distant Lover? Not sure I'm buying your IQ percentages.
     
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      You don't want to know where he got those stats from...trust me on this...
       
      conroe4, Jun 2, 2016
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      Lets just say I feel the urge to exercise some "healthy skepticism." He's basically saying Muslim nations are collectively below average intelligence-wise. Pretttty sure most sociologists and psychologists might have a bone to pick with that.
       
      Earthboundhero, Jun 2, 2016
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      Most Moslems are illiterate with very limited educations so naturally they have low IQs. That's because they live in very poor third and forth world countries. If the west went to war with Moslem countries over our kicking Moslems out, we would have to take the war to them since most Moslem counties don't have well equipped armies and don't have large modern air forces, ballistic misses or Navies with aircraft carries or nuclear submarines or satellite tracking and surveillance or good communications. In fact, most Muslims would just sit at home and do nothing except stage demonstrations and yell "Death to America." because they have no way to attack us. That means that during the start of the war we NATO and maybe Russia and Israel, can concentrate our attacks on the more modern Moslem countries like Iran. Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan and most of the smarter Moslem counties will stay out of it.
       
      Hardrive, Jun 2, 2016
  17. freespiritx

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    I read the article!
    Absolutely obscene sentencing.
    Where is the justice for the victim?
     
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      Id say she was so scared she said nothing.
       
      Pussy.Patrol, Jun 3, 2016
  18. Pussy.Patrol

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    So now Countries in the EU are fined for not accepting refugees:

    European Union to fine countries €250,000 for EVERY REFUGEE refused entry
    This is truly bizarre - EU countries to be fined for managing their borders or put another way fined for failing to commit suicide.

    The European Union is to announce a fine of €250,000 per asylum seeker refused entry to an EU county.

    What is the EU? The European Union I would have thought, put there to safeguard and advance the interests of Europeans, rather than say the Organisation of Islamic Countries or an Arab grouping.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...tor-Orban?_ga=1.25656571.755425049.1428731461

    EU BORDER THREAT: Brussels BRUSSELS is set to slap EU states with eye-watering fines of €250,000 for every refugee they refuse - twisting states' arms into accepting controversial migrant quotas.
     
  19. Pussy.Patrol

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    I wonder which country will be the first to jump out of the EU?
     
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      The UK?

      They go to the polls in June on a referendum to answer that very question
       
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    Here we have the idiocy of the leftist governments in Europe. Not only Europe, our current president appears to be just as naive, to put it charitably. These are the people's representatives that have repeatedly TOLD their citizens these "migrants" are not radical Islamists, these poor people are perfectly safe moderate Muslims.

    Really? How can these government officials continue with that lie? New Years eve should have opened their eyes. Not 1 or 2, not even 10 or 20, but hundreds maybe thousands(we'll never know the truth) sexually molested and raped innocent European young women. Who on this forum thinks those young Muslim men are moderates?

    Why the push to continue to bring them into European countries. Liberals are all like teenage kids, they just cannot be seen not following the "cool" kids. If it's "cool" to wear rings in their noses, even if it makes them look hideous, they wear rings in their noses. Liberals it seems, never grow up. They just can't "grow". They are locked into a ideology that was cool when they were teenagers and no matter what they learn in life they just can't bring themselves to be different from the "cool" people.

    The only thing that can save Europe is the intelligent people on the right. Now they are no smarter than the liberals (well maybe some what) they just are able to use their common sense when they see the facts. They are not worried what others think. We just have to hope the right can save the leftists from themselves. You know, just like parents save their teenage kids from doing stupid stuff.
     
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