Woah

 

So insightful... keep those once-per-year posts coming!

 

The best thing about not getting the polio vaccination is your child might be really good at running around turns and corners.
Left or right depending on which leg is shorter.
Just say'n!

 

Vaccination 100%. We have to be careful not to fall into a false equivalency. The arguments for vaccines heavily outweigh the arguments against.

 

@msman If you were delousing your chickens would only doing half your coop and chickens be worthwhile?

 

A 2020 ARTICLE WRITTEN BY DR. MERCOLA GIVING
CONSPIRATORIAL CRITICISM ON BILL GATES/GATES FOUNDATION
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Bill Gates — The Most Dangerous Philanthropist in Modern History?

(And He’s Calling the Shots on the COVID Pandemic and Lock-down)

Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola Fact Checked - April 21, 2020 (3044 words)

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...d=20200421Z1&et_cid=DM514875&et_rid=855708535

 

I grew up in the time when children were confined to Iron lungs with Polio and parents had German Measles parties so all the kids got it at the same time! Unfortunately I caught it and it did my eyes in, as did pregnant Mothers. Pregnant women who contract rubella are at risk for miscarriage or stillbirth, and their developing babies are at risk for severe birth defects with devastating, lifelong consequences.
Anyone who wants to go back to that scenario is a fool and not only a fool to themselves but to any poor soul they and their children infect.

 

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In general agreement with that sentiment..
From a cynical perspective, realizing that we're in the neoliberal, amoral market of vendor ethics; could manufactures be taking arguable and debatable short-cuts in the production of the vaccines so that contaminants that DO affect those marginal populations?

 

If a child is given the vaccinations they should not catch the disease. Is that right? If they do catch the disease the vaccine did not work. Only those children who did not get vaccinated should be at risk for the disease.
People who get their children vaccinated should not have to worry.

 

Collateral effects to a sensitively effected demographic, besides the efficacy of the vaccination, is the main argument of the conspiratorialists.

 

You can get Chickenpox more than once (I was 25 and in the Airforce) and it stays in the system and can cause shingles in later life,

 

I had the mumps, twice.
Second grade, had them on the left side. Got well. Was going back to school. Woke up with them on the right side.

 

I had measles at 4-5 years. Parotiditis (salivary gland inflammation) in '58. Chicken Pox in '59. Acute Mumps in summer '60 (was unconscious for 28 hours).
As an Army recruit and later AF deployment overseas, I had the full blister causing shot.
Every October I'm at the VA Hosital for whatever shots I need.

Tho' I'm a big proponent of environmental factors in our eco-system as well as what we consume as food, I give credence to the susceptibility of those marginal groups having reactions to the vaccines. The blanket exoneration of the vaccines raises my cynical doubts, as well as my opposition to not-vaccinated herd immunity.

 

Like Anniemated, I grew up in a time of iron lungs etc. We kids got in line for shots, I guess my mom had some say about it, I don't know, then in the Army it seems every now and then they take us somewhere line up and get shots, I know they never asked my mom about that. To this day if they are giving shots for vaccine I'll take one! We did the same with my daughter.

 

Questions on the means of Gates, etal, help fuel the skepticism on the explanations on the adverse results in the margins


How Gates' Foundation Benefits From Its Own Donations


For example, in 2014, a Mastercard affiliate, MasterCard Labs for Financial Inclusion, received a $19 million donation10,11 "to 'increase usage of digital financial products by poor adults' in Kenya," The Nation reports, adding:12


"The credit card giant had already articulated its keen business interest in cultivating new clients from the developing world's 2.5 billion unbanked people, McGoey says, so why did it need a wealthy philanthropist to subsidize its work? And why are Bill and Melinda Gates getting a tax break for this donation?"


Indeed, those are sensible questions that need serious review. The Mastercard donation also appears to have benefited the Gates Foundation, making an investigation into Gates' "philanthropy" all the more necessary.


As explained by The Nation, at the time of that donation, the Gates Foundation had "substantial financial investments in Mastercard through its holdings in Warren Buffett's investment company, Berkshire Hathaway."


That's not the only questionable donation on record. The Nation found "close to $250 million in charitable grants from the Gates Foundation to companies in which the foundation holds corporate stocks and bonds." In other words, the Gates Foundation is giving money to companies that it owns stocks in and will benefit financially from.


As a result, the Foundation and Gates himself continue to increase their wealth. Part of this growth in wealth also appears to be due to the tax breaks given for charitable donations. In short, it's a perfect money-shuffling scheme that limits taxes while maximizing income generation.


Companies that have received donations that in turn made money for the Gates Foundation include Merck, Novartis, GlaxoSmithKline, Vodafone, Sanofi, Ericsson, LG, Medtronic, Teva and "numerous startups," The Nation writes, adding:


"A foundation giving a charitable grant to a company that it partly owns — and stands to benefit from financially — would seem like an obvious conflict of interest …


Tax scholars like Ray Madoff, a law professor at Boston College, indicate that multibillionaires see tax savings of at least 40 percent — which, for Bill Gates, would amount to $14 billion …


Madoff, like many tax experts, stresses that these billions of dollars in tax savings have to be seen as a public subsidy — money that otherwise would have gone to the U.S. Treasury to help build bridges, do medical research, or close the funding gap at the IRS …


If Bill and Melinda Gates don't pay their full freight in taxes, the public has to make up the difference or simply live in a world where governments do less and less (educating, vaccinating, and researching) and superrich philanthropists do more and more.


'I think people often confuse what wealthy people are doing on their own dime and what [they're] doing on our dime, and that's one of the big problems about this debate,' Madoff notes.


'People say, 'It's the rich person's money [to spend as they wish].' But when they get significant tax benefits, it's also our money. And so that's why we need to have rules about how they spend our money.'"

 

Mumps can make boys infertile, why gamble with that possibility for your children? I sure those affected won't thank you for it. Just under half of all males who get mumps notice some shrinkage of their testicles and an estimated 1 in 10 men experience a drop in their sperm count (the amount of healthy sperm their body can produce) Some are totally infertile.

 

Non-issue. b/c of the shot series I received in the military along with the realization that I was a de facto condomnized dick in later marriages I retroactively learned that there was 'No harm-No Foul' on me for stumbling into them

 

Not everyone strikes it lucky. Oh yes it's very few are struck infertile but how would you feel if you found you were and your parents could have stopped it? Talk about strained relations!

Anniemated

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Another non-issue
I was also one of those kids at the health dept. in the 50's getting what was commonly perceived as a benign and beneficial immunization shot..

The 'Helicopter Parents' and deniers of today, who think that life is too much a roll of the dice in some instances and that they have an absolute autonomous prerogative on whether to be in some affinity with with the idea of a network of communal interdependence, are the products of a fallacy on freedom that threatens chaos on the whole for their non-empirical phobias for themselves.

More research and investigation into genetic and environmental causes for the adverse reactions to the serums. In this neoliberal oriented world in which 'the greater good of the many' is the driving paradigm-platitude that denigrates and diminishes the issues of the anomalous victims, the nay-sayers as Mercola-RFK, Jr.-Gary Kohls should press their argument in presenting evidence of the inconsistencies of process and product f the vaccines

 

AN OP's FOREWARD:
NGO's such as the GATES FOUNDATION are the surrogates for governmental entities. As a surrogate to a governmental entity, they should be judged as analogous to what government's acquire in prerogatives and use those prerogatives accordingly. Whatever perceived "excesses" by these 'NGO's' should be seen in the light of the necessary, efficiency these prerogatives of action provide in the (seeming) absence of government assistance.
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Why the Bill Gates global health empire promises more empire andless public health

Behind a veil of corporate media PR, the Gates Foundation has served as a vehicle for Western capital while exploiting the Global South as a human laboratory. The coronavirus pandemic is likely to intensify this disturbing agenda.

By Jeremy Loffredo and Michele Greenstein

President Donald Trump’s announcement this July of a U.S. withdrawal from the World Health Organization (WHO) set into motion a process that will have a dramatic impact on the future of global public health policy – and on the fortunes of one of the world’s richest people.

The US abandonment of the WHO means that the organization’s second-largest financial contributor, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, is soon to become its top donor, giving the non-governmental international empire unparalleled influence over one the world’s most important multilateral organizations.

Bill Gates has achieved a hero-like status during the pandemic. The Washington Post has called him a “champion of science-backed solutions,” while the New York Times recently hailed him as “the most interesting man in the world.” Gates is also the star of a hit Netflix docu-series, “Pandemic: How to Prevent an Outbreak,” which was released just weeks before coronavirus hit the U.S., and was produced by a New York Times correspondent, Sheri Fink, who previously worked at three Gates-funded organizations (Pro Publica, the New America Foundation, and the International Medical Corps).

The tidal wave of mainstream media praise for Gates during the Covid-19 era has meant that scrutiny of the billionaire and his machinations is increasingly prevalent on the far–right of the political spectrum, where it can be dismissed by progressives as the conspiratorial ravings of Trumpists and Q-Anon quacks....cont'd at https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/08/bill-gates-global-health-policy/
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As central government's become operations of-by-for fascistic, plutocratic agenda; there "NGOs" are transnational nation-states, who for better or worse have the influence and prerogative of the formerly recognized nation states.

 

This is true... The later in life you get it, the more harmful it can be for u. A friend's 5 year old came down with chicken pox a few years back... His wife is a big anti-vax nut case and he has no real backbone to stand up to her... Knowing this the kid's pediatrician told him it would be a good idea if he made himself scarce around the house for a couple weeks...so I got myself a house guest... Wasn't all that bad actually... Sorta like we were back in school... But had money. Our meals were slightly better then Ramen with Catsup...