The only thing I want to say about this subject is that so many people,when they become adults, completely forget what it was like to be young, and start forcing this wistful notion of "innocence" on kids and teens.

I'll make it simple: the concept of innocence is the biggest crock of bull that adults have come up with, particularly in these times. It's as if people expect kids to know nothing about the world they live in and just play with dolls and pop guns - which leads them to be totally unprepared to live in said world when they grow up. It's why we see so many kids these days on drugs, pregnant and with STD's at younger and younger ages - they simply don't know any better, and they've been turned off learning about how they should be living by adults who force "innocence" (which is really ignorance) on them.

Kids want to learn and grow up - the last thing they want is to do is stay ignorant and feel like other kids know more than they do or are growing up faster than they are. Now, does that mean that kids should be having sex (with each other, or with adults)? Absolutely not. But to keep them ignorant of the facts of life in some pursuit of faux innocence just to satisfy the emotional need of adults to feel that their kids are "protected" from evil, nasty things is just as wrong. It's all about teaching them solid values, giving them the information they need and want to know, and teaching them to be responsible. Sticking a child's head in the sand is nothing but harmful in the long run.

Sorry, but that whole comment about innocence really rubbed me the wrong way.

 

As RedRose said they are encouraging sex anymore. I though matured but never gave a shit really on how I looked only for a bit and then I didn't give a shit anymore. I find it weird now that 10 year old girls are now wearing makeup as it is. And how they are dressing.

 

Do you think kids live in a vacuum? Seriously, there are kids as young as 9 years old looking at porn online. We live in a world where kids are surrounded by sex imagery, whether it be in the media, on the internet, or even in school. If they aren't going to learn about it from a reputable source (ie, parents), they're going to learn about it from their friends or from TV and have their attitudes shaped by what they see and hear - which is NOT the way kids need to learn about sex.

This isn't the 50s anymore. We don't live in a Leave It To Beaver world. And if you honestly think that making sure kids having access to condoms to *PROTECT* themselves from STDs and pregnancy is encouraging sexual intercourse any more than kids are already encouraged by the world we live in, you haven't been paying attention.

 

No matter what we can't stop kids from doing what their doing its just the way of life anymore. Hell kids have porn on their phones now. If kids are doing it at least let them be protected. Theirs nothing we can do to stop kids having sex and looking at porn. They hear about sex everywhere they go now

 

NO I don't think kids live in a vacuum. I understand what your saying and I AGREE. All I'm saying is that giving condoms to young boys doesn't help the issue. And I wasn't even alive in the 50's (im only 18 ) so I don't understand your reference sorry. I know about 9-10 yo having sex because my best friend had her 1st child when she was 10. Also I did learn about sex from my friends not school.

The reason why I think children having access to condoms to protect against pregnancy is encourgaging them to have sex is because it gives a sense that sex is just a game, and it may sound like I'm lying but the reason I even posted is that in the area where I live the school system does not talk in debth about sexual activies or pregnancy or STDs until 10th grade by then most girls were already pregnant.

 

Sorry I misunderstood what you were saying, RoseRed, and for the testy response. You have my apology via PM, but I wanted to apologize on here as well. My mistake.

 

What a racy question. I think it would depend on the girl. Some become sexy at a relatively young age, others more older, and still others don't seem to become sexy till they're in there golden years.

I have hated the fact that you're allowed to think girls of any age can be sexy up until you turn 18. Then, as soon as you turn 18, just thinking that a girl under 18 as sexy is considered a form of pedophilia. It's stupid.

Oh and I will say that I hate it when girls are dressing too sexy for their ages. Look, I'm fine if you're 16 and wearing jogging pants that say "Angel" or "little devil" across the ass or if you wear a revealing t-shirt that shows off well more than it should, but it does disturb me that I see girls as young as 8 and 9 wearing those things. I mean, seriously, who lets their kids wear those things?

And I know it stems from child birth because for the past several years, I've been seeing more and more babies wearing things that make them "cute" but in all reality, the clothing looks like something you'd see on some loose, cheap high school slut.

...just my thought...

 

I doubt you "matured" before you were 12 but began maturing. Semantics.

Back to the original question... What is sexy? Others have commented that "they didn't make them like that back when I was a kid". Agreed. Girls back then (only talking 30 years here) acted like girls, not like young women.

The styles these days make it quite confusing when you look at a girl and try and figure out how old she is. The interesting thing is, if you stand a young girl next to an adult (let's say over 26 years old) she is obviously a girl. Even a teenager looks like a teenager next to an adult. However if you just see a girl by herself or with her friends it is hard to tell how old they are.

That being said, are they sexy? Hell Yes! I have almost tripped over myself looking at a girl as young as nine (I am guessing). They are wearing no make-up so if you look carefully you can tell they are little girls but the clothes and the attitudes... impossible for a normal guy not to think they are sexy. Some are wearing make-up too and then it is even more difficult to tell, or ignore.

The really sad part is most of these girls just don't understand what their looks can and do to boys and men. While girls like to dress up and look nice, mostly because their parents allow them to dress a certain way, the fact is the rest of the world will certainly "see" them before they get to know them. Quick judgments are make that way and these sexy girls may get judged incorrectly.

 

For me, roughly age 10+ and some younger are attractive. This doesn't mean I'd want to have sex with them. I want to wait for marriage.

 

I think that just looking at someone underage and finding them atractive is fine. But if you ever felt the need to pursue these feelings, then a visit to a psychiatrist might be in order.

Just my 2 cents.

 

OK ,my 2cents worth. I raised two step daughters (me and their mother),So been there done that.It always surpprized me how they would walk around the house wearing very little,even after their mom explained over and over that they should wear more clothes as they got older.It amazes me that moms help their daughters dress,but don't teach them how to sit while wearing a skirt without showing their panties.And wear a loose fitting tank top that covers everything,but if she bends over anyone has a clear shot of her tits And wear pants so tight that their pussies are about to bust out.Girls wouldn't think of being seen in public in their underwear,but will wear the tinyest bikinis and not seem embarrased at all about being 95% nude,and then get pissed if guys & men look at their bodies.And theymost certainly know that guys like to look at girls bodies.

 

that'swhy i don't get mad if i'm at the beach(rarely) and find guys looking at me.
It's just weird on how other women find men *perverts* for looking at them if they are beautiful, it kind of hits a nerve, like why? your being complemented for your body, that sadly everyone doesn't have, but wants
And honestly, i buy bikinis but, do really expect men to NOT stare if you have a little patch cloth covering you?of course not
I don't know goes through other women's minds when they buy these and get the comments and ask why

 

I am guilty of this. I would look at girls all the time. I won't do one and rather masturbate or go to a club.

 

I think girls start being sexy at about 14 I say is the youngest because my girlfriend is 14 but I think anything around my age or a couple of years older is what I'm interested in.

 

Ok....so let's address the original question here....because we all agree that pedaphilia is illegal and IMO ranks right up there with clubbing baby seals. So..at what age do girls become "sexy"? Well..that really comes down to the whole "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" thing. Let's face it, we live in a society where sex sells, and is being marketed to younger and younger girls. And in general, people in their early teens want to look older, whereas many adults do anything to look younger. We are all products of our sexual marketplace to some degree.

I whole heartly agree that parental guidance and communication is key to ensuring your child dresses and acts age appropriately. And, as was noted earlier, without parental guidence, teens will get their info from another source, and ususally that source is inaccurate at the least and dangerous at the most. Plus, at that age, girls have enough hormones raging though them to paralyze a charging moose. That, in addition to peer pressure, the media, ready access to porn on the Internet, the desire to "fit in", etc., underage girls are taking steps to make themselves conform to what "society" proclaims as being sexy. Personally, I do agree with the fact that more underage girls try to look sexual than when I was a teen. Many of you have expressed your feelings that acting on these types of feelings are just plain wrong. And I couldn't agree more.

The problem is that nowadays adults really have no idea how old a girl is simply by looking at her. And there are those who actively seek out underage girls. I mean come on, just watch any episode of "To Catch a Predator". Obviously this makes for great television, but on a larger scale, underage girls that have access to chat rooms are going to be "approached" by adults. Finding a girl/woman attractive is simply a function of the male libido. However, knowing a girl is under 18 and being sexually attracted to her is a very touchy subject and extremely subjective. I prefer adult females as opposed to someone under 18 simply because I desire women with experience. That is just me. Hell, I have caught myself looking younger girls and thinking "damn she is hot" But then again, I have no idea how old they really are. As the father of a 13 y/o daughter, I know that if an adult approached her, I would hunt him down and probably put a few carefully placed 9mm slugs in him. Call me protective.

 

I've thought about this question long and hard while reading all the posts... and i think there's a point of confusion here, because someone becoming sexy, and someone becoming sexually mature

Girls bodies can sexually mature at a very young age. 10, 12, 12, 13... they can dress sexually, wear makeup and so on.

That however, does not make them sexy.

Sexy, comes from a woman. A woman with intelligence, with confidence, with experience, with wisdom. It doesn't come from tight clothing and giggling schoolgirl uncertainty. It comes from being able to wear any clothing, and make it sexy. It comes from warm, sexy self-assured laughs that know exactly what you want... and exactly how to give it to you. It comes from being a mature, adult woman, wise in the ways of pleasing and and being pleased by me, in the zenith of her sexual power.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is sexy. Any young girl do sexually mature, that's biology. But sexy, now that's a hell of a lot rarer.

Bye for now - Fluffy McNoo.

 

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Amazingly Enough ....

You know I went on for years blind to 'children' and their bodies. Yes there were a handful that one just couldn't ignore. However, I never saw them as attractive but rather sad. I say this because as I grew up I knew two girls who were fully developed periods and all as early as 3rd grade (8-9 years old) and saw what they went through. Lets face it they stood out in a crowd. Granted this was years ago in a different time.

Fast forwarding to 6 years ago I was at a meeting with my sons schools principle (woman) who pointed out to me how developed these girls were and all as early as the 8-9 year mark. Not sure how this came about when speaking about academics (no I was not talking about sex in any fashion (thats a shoker) and my son is barely starting to look at girls now). Anyways her point was the younger kids have more to deal with earlier. After the principle pointed out these girls bodies I could not help but notice. The very first time I remember noticing my mouth just dropped at how well endowed these girls breasts were. I found my self in a speechless ... just speechless state.

I do not see young girls (or guys for that matter) attractive until they are over 25. Granted there are few excpetions but I really much prefer the selections of an adults fully developed body.

 

I certainly agree. I read some place that a very large percentage - perhaps a majority - of under age girls who get pregnant are impregnated by adults. It is one thing for a man to be attracted to a minor. It is evil for him to seduce her. Even if she takes the initiative it is morally wrong.