never trust anyone who cheats on their partner to be with you. if they can cheat on them, what makes you so special?

 

that's because you allow people to do that to you, by being too available. if you don't let them, they don't do it. just like how it is with us guys, where if you let a girl keep you in the "friend zone" or use you or whatever, she will. if a chick is gonna let me fuck her without having to date her, and if she's gonna let me fuck her even if I've got a girl, chances are, I'm not gonna say no. Well, except to the cheating thing, cus I don't cheat.

if you don't want that to happen, you set up boundaries and decide the dynamic of your relationship with every person you know

 

right, unless they are single when you meet them, and an ex steps back in. but see my reply below. i usually don't talk to guys to get a relationship. it's always friendships that go further. but still, i'm sick of guys coming to me to complain about their girlfriend, and they tell me how amazing i am. if i'm so amazing, then why are you still with her?

yeah i know, that's what you told me when Karen was dating Dave. and btw, most girls don't "use guys", if you're in the friend zone, that's because she likes you as a friend. women and men work different with things like that. usually a guy won't be friends with a girl unless he's at least attracted to her, or has an emotional connection to her in some form or another. women aren't picky about who they're friends with, and usually don't keep guys to use them. at least, i never have. i can't fake a friendship, and i can't pay attention to people i don't care about. if i talk to you a lot, that means i care about you, not that i'm using you. but i'll always start off a relationship as friends. if we work as friends and the feelings get deeper, i'll take it further. as slow as i can. you know that firsthand.

 

well i would like to think i'm not crazy

i mostly get stuck in the friend zone too..and then they end up liking me..or they date one of my friends..realize they don't like the friend as much as they think..and then decide to like me..but hey i don't do second best..

 

Shouldn't this have gone into the "ask a stupid question" thread????

 

to baller: oh and btw, i'm definately not too available. do you have any idea how many guys try to talk to me everyday? in RL, on here, at my job, etc?? i'm really, really picky. and really hard to get into a relationship with. i know my type, and when i like someone, i approach them.

 

I know, I didn't mean that having a guy as a friend is using him, I meant that girls can use guys the same way we can use them.

and it's the same for me, I don't need to be attracted to a chick to have her be my friend, she just has to have the same qualities I look for in my other friends

wasn't trying to judge you

was just saying, if that's the case, where guys fuck you and don't date you, it's cus you don't set up boundaries

I'm a guy, I know how our mind works, I know the male point of view, I'm just telling you what I know, cus I'd do the same thing if I wanted sex

 

right. there's very few people i consider "friends" nowadays. there's one on this site that i wished lived near me, and there's nothing sexual (to my knowledge) there whatsoever. that's the type of guy i feel comfortable having as my friend. i think we're goin off topic.

i would never sleep with a guy that i wasn't dating. maybe if i was 18, but not now. i've been put through way too much in the past ten years to just "give it up" to a guy that is using me. and trust me, i'm a lot quicker than you give me credit for. i would never sit back and let a guy spit game or play me. if he is, he'll never see my pussy. i don't go for that shit, and if you think i do, then you don't talk to me enough, and you're far behind.

 

I told you, I'm not judging you, and I don't think anything.

I'm not gonna get into your business, because it's just that, your business, and I'm not a nosy person. I was just offering the male point of view, that not only me, but every single person I know has, whether they choose to use it or not, and all of my friends are really classy people, so that should tell you something about how universal that point of view is.

 

i know that guys do that, and most women do, without having to be told. if we didn't, then guys wouldn't get turned down so often...

 

well baller is right that there are guys who will do anything to have sex with a girl but it does seem hard to get the girl in the mood, but why should it have to be that way for me the girl has to game me cause i don't just sleep around with girls.

 

Well.. this thread lasting longer than i thought it would.
I'd like to add,that i cant speak for other women. But GUYS just because you've had a bad experince.. doesnt make all women shedevils. I know there are ALOT of girls,like me who constantly get over-looked because we arent "sexy" enough. What the fuck kind of mind game is that? We are good enough to be friends,and in some cases fuck buddies,but its almost like.. guys like to be tortured. All i ever see,is guys picking the girls,that are most likely to fuck them over. So..whats that? Looks to me like some dudes need to come back down to reality and realize chicks are all going to be super model-looking skanks. And to whoever said "girls want women with dicks",SORRY..WRONG ANSWER. I certainly no not want a chick..with a dick. I would prefer a well rounded male? Is that a choice? When you say.."real man" im totally picturing a lumber jack.. in the middle of a river,standing on top of a log. Anyways.. to the point.. Dont generalize..its really fucking stupid,to throw all women.. and all men into one lump. Women and Men are equally fucking crazy in their own rights. And the thing that makes it OK,is when they come together in a mature fashion to realize their crazi-ness.
"Hey your crazy..and you stink... but im sort of a crazy bitch myself" TOLERANCE! lol

 

I wasn't trying to generalize I'm sowwy if I did Bishop-kins XD

 

i was directing that at the OP.
but..that sorry will do..

that'll do pig..that'll do.

 

actually, it's just ex girlfriends that are crazy. grrr.

 

Cute... very cute -_- lol

 

THANK YOU

 

I love that movie!!

 

I've never met you but you seem more "well rounded" than most women I've met.

I love the "Corn dog" thread by the way....

 

The guys in my town gave up trying to get with me lol, i read this just now and didnt post it before, because i shot them down at every single turn
Just the other night, stupid tourists, god do i hate living a hop skip and jump away from a ski resort:
At the bar down the street from me cause i had nothing better to do, bunch of guido new yorkers come in, i dont know what the women are like there, but you DO NOT do that up here lol
Some Guy: Oh hey sexy, wanna go for a ride in my car?
Me:Your car is a peice of shit, to say the least
Some GuyTYPICAL)My car is a piece of shit?what do you drive?
*I really do take offense to this a my car is my baby lol*
Me:STi
Some Guy: I'll race you and if i win...blah blah blah w/e
Me:Fine
Sure as hell i won cause his "banging" honda is sooo much better than a subaru
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I love the guys who flaunt their stuff and try to lie to make it seem better
They also like degrade in that we cannot do ANYTHING for ourselves
Its so pathetic