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Having re-read what I wrote, I have to agree.

So I will.

The baiter got bit...

 

Pearl compared to Iraq

In talking to many of the guard that just returned I see and hear a different kind of army, totally different.

The guard goes in from an inviorment that is one weekend a month to train, As I see it here, that is also the only time they have any physical training and conditioning. I do not know the age average of today's guard, but from those I know it is around 35 or 40.

World War II: I was not there for I missed the age by 2 years, but when my uncle returned I saw the strain on him.. If a car went by and backfired, he would hit the ground so fast, that today's drive by shooters would never have hit him.. This was an uncle that was in the army and stationed in Germany for the whole war..

Boot camp was a 24 hour a day training job. They were physically fit, They new their job. Most of the new recruits were in the age range of 18 to 25, with a few 16yr olds that lied to get in..

Who fixed their food! They did, it was called KP! Who emptied the trash, they did, who cleaned the latrine, Who washed their clothes, they did!! not an employee of Haliburton at $28.00 an hour..

I had an uncle in Pear Harbor, he survived, and served there as a cheif Petty officer. He learned to weld on the ships that were in for repair, he worked in the code rooms and many times 24hours straight. He had to be a jack of all trades, He sat it out there till the war was over. HA

I am embarresed to say what his pay was!! and no overtime.. My aunt came to live in Illinois with us till the war was over.. did not have enough money to live in Calif.
Today's army drags home some fair pay. Today's army is a different army, I guess the saying would be "an army of specialist"

Both army's are good, it is just that we are different. I still peel potatoes and clean out the comode.. And watch TV and the news were the oil companys rob us and the world of our dignity.

 

Yeah, my grandpa on my dad's side (he was a man on the assembly line for the Manhattan Project, he wasn't a scientist, just helped put them together and transport and stuff like that, after the German war, which the whole time he was stationed in Germany) made really shitty pay for what he was doing, seeing as radioactive materials could easily kill a person or deform them. He hated his time in the military, absolutely hated it. I think it had something to do with him being forced into the environment. But, I know that he would die willingly, he lost a lot of friends in Pearl Harbor, and I just recently found this all out.

 

we remember

just thought I'd bump this from last year, in honor of the day.

 

Nice thread RP. Thanks for remembering those that lost their lives that fateful day.

 

Too bad it was also yet another example of how a perfectly good thread can be turned into a flame-fest by one idiot.

 

Having read it over... I do feel that someone reacted to the sarcasm a little too strongly. I mean, it was insensitive, yes, but it was pointed out by Chunky that it was sarcastic... so I don't think it's really the fault of the sarcastic poster.

 

Yes, it was sarcastic...that's what made it so negative. Sarcasm can be deadly. There was nothing funny about what he said.

 

We always should remember!!! I didn't even know it was the sixth today!!!
I don't know if any of you have ever heard this song, so I thought I'd post the words today....As a family, it would always get sung whenever my Aunt would play the piano at my grandmother's. That was their 9/11!!!..Thanks Vincenzz for remembering!!!

Shortly after the attack on December 7, 1941 and America's entry in to the war, one of the first and the most classic World War Two patriotic songs was written by Don Reid and music by Reid and Sammy Kaye.



The song, "Remember Pearl Harbor"; described as a "March with spirit", was based on the popular saying of the day and became an instant hit with the public. It was played by every radio station and enthusiasticaly sung at every social, family and religious gatherings across the country.

"Remember Pearl Harbor", the song and the saying, went in to history as the quintessential slogan and battle cry of World War II.

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History - in every century,
records an act that lives forevermore.
We'll recall - as in to line we fall,
the thing that happened on Hawaii's shore.


Let's REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR -
As we go to meet the foe -
Let's REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR
As we did the Alamo.


We will always remember -
how they died for liberty,
Let's REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR
and go on to victory.

Another tremendously popular song at the times was; "Praise The Lord and Pass the Ammunition".

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Memorial

 

I do know it is the 7th, it was just a typo...Here are some facts from that day!!! After Pearl Harbor my father went to Hawaii as a volunteer during the war...he was 4F, and mad about it!!! His trigger finger was stiff, but he hunted all his life with it....

 

I don't know what history book you read but it must have been written by Dell Comics. As for lack of courage, I have more than a few friends who are there and have lost a couple; if a person lacks courage then they must be a coward and I don't see any cowards serving, but I see a lot of cowards on the web.
TJ

 

I'm sure your grandfathers are sitting up there disgusted at you for this comment. Asswipe.

 

Guys, guys, there's no use bashing LuckyJim...that post was a year old. He's not around to hear your outrage.

 

haha I didn't notice this was a 2006 thread. I mean, it is December 7th again .