So to make sure I unsderstand what you mean, you are saying if I think it, I must have done it? Or, just wanted to do it?

 

If you have posted any stories here, you have used another pseudonym. If you wrote a story about a man who commits statutory rape against a reluctant victim, enjoys it, and gets away with it, I would assume that you were endorsing that kind of behavior. I would think you wanted to do something like that, and suspect that you had.

 

Or the thought can be a substitute for the deed. Maybe without this harmless outlet for our fantasies, people like me would be more likely to engage in those forbidden or perverse acts. Maybe I'm an incestuous pedophile who only keeps my passions in check by writing this kind of story (I'm not).

You're right that there may be people who start by reading or writing stories about forbidden lust and end up acting out their fantasies, but my point is that there may be just as many people who don't act out their fantasies because they get satisfaction from reading or writing stories about forbidden lust.

Until someone comes up with some real numbers to back up these "maybe's", it's all just speculation either way.

 

Unfortunately, an issue like this arouses strong emotions, so people have a tendency to believe whatever they want to believe. I have read that watching violent television programs makes children more violent. I would suspect that reading accounts of statutory rape has the same effect.

 

I've read that watching violent television programs makes children more violent too. I've also read that it doesn't. Both viewpoints seem to be pushed by someone with an agenda, so neither is particularly trustworthy.

So without some hard numbers to back this all up, I have to go with my own experience. I write about acts that would be considered statutory rape in the real world, but when it comes to children I'm not just harmless; I would jump in front of a bus to save a child. And although I write about incest, I have never been attracted to any of my family members in real life. I may very well be the exception to the rule, but I don't have any proof one way or the other.

By the way, I'm not trying to argue that your opinion or your taste in erotica is wrong. If you don't like stories involving sexual intercourse involving family members or underage participants, that's fine.

 

I grew up with beautiful sisters. I never experimented with them sexually. I cannot remember wanting to. We grew up in a fairly religious family. We were naturally "good." There were a lot of things we did not do and did not think about doing. Nevertheless, I find that I am attracted to well written stories about incestuous attractions that are not consummated. I can enjoy that as long as I imagine that I am someone else attracted to his sister, rather than mine.

I have always been very jealous and territorial toward any woman I loved. Nevertheless, I find that I can enjoy a story about wife watching, as long as I imagine that I am another man watching a third man have sex with his wife, rather than mine.

Go figure.

I cannot enjoy a story about a sexual experience that it is non consensual. The only rape fantasy I have is of protecting a woman from being raped.

 

Wow, huge stretch. Phew. I almost don't know how to respond. What about murder books or a movie with a rape in it? Does your thinking apply to all writers or just those on this site that fit your mold?

I have not read the posts that followed mine, and after I do I may wish I didn't bother to write this, but that was a shocking and offense assumption you made. But, respect your opinion.

 

In crime fiction the criminal loses at the end.

 

So I guess in every story I have read and movie I have seen, the bad guy always loses

I still understand your side of this thinking, and respect your thoughts, but am sure you are wrong at least in my case.

I wonder if 7,000 years ago went people were incesting and raping they had some good porn sites to get their ideas from?:twisted:

 

I've been searching, it looks like it's disappeared. That was a very good story too. I admit I had some tears in my eyes at the very end. They just don't write stories like that anymore.

No, not always. The world is not all lollipop rainbows and gumdrop smiles. And an author that chooses to write about something does not necessarily condone what they are writing about.
As an example, I wrote a short story a few years ago, high fantasy, in which a wizard summons demons to help him take over the world. I put in some terrifically graphic descriptions in there, too. However, I in no way advocate the domination of the world by wizards, evil or otherwise, with the help of supernatural agents.

Sometimes authors write things, nasty things, to help them simply express an emotion, in a constructive way. When I was writing that story, I had been mistreated shall we say, by certain authorities that were supposed to have my best interest at heart.

Do not be so naive, DL.

 

Ocean's Eleven? The Italian Job? Oh, wait. Those were okay because the criminals were robbing bad guys. Better example: Entrapment.

I enjoy a good heist movie, but I've never robbed a bank (or a casino, for that matter) in my life. In fact, I've never so much as shoplifted. I jaywalked once though, so perhaps it's just a matter of time before my taste in movies leads me to a life of crime.

Obviously you want to watch your wife having sex with another man. Why else would you enjoy that kind of story?

I'm not serious, of course, but I am trying to make a point. I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but doesn't it strike you as a bit hypocritical that you can distance yourself from your fantasies in that way, but you can't accept that others can do the same?

 

I enjoy stories where there is some character development which then leads into a good story with realistic sex scenes. On of the best stories I have read which meets these requirements is "Uncle's Little Blessing" by The SlutMan at www.storiesonline.net - this is a free site where one can look up stories by title, author, or category. Readers can also create their own libraries so that you can go back to a story you particularly liked or have not finished. To read Uncle's Little Blessing you have to become a member but that is free also. I have been reading stories there for over two years. Really awesome site.

 

One warning about that site: unless you're a premium member (either a paid membership or a contributing author with enough stories to hit a certain score), a lot of the features are disabled, such as the advanced search, creating your own libraries, downloading whole stories instead of just viewing page by page, etc. And you can only read a minimal number of stories per day.

I do have my stories posted there, but I prefer sites like XNXX that have no limitations and allow authors to interact with readers.

 

I have never been married. Wife watching is not against the law, and it is not exploitative if it is between consenting adults. The priestly pedophile sex scandal should demonstrate that minors are often, if not usually, harmed emotionally by having sexual affairs with men, especially if the men take the initiative and use coercion.

 

This is all true, and all irrelevant. My point is that a person can enjoy reading or writing about an act that they would never commit in real life. You've already admitted that that's the case with wife-watching; I'm just saying that it can also be the case with incest and/or sex with a minor. The ethics, morality, and legality of the acts are all beside the point.

 

This thread made for an interesting read. I know that as a writer, I have been stereotyped. I've made attempts to break out of my category, here and on another site. Sometimes, people laud my growth as a newer writer. Other times I'm told I've sold out.

I have not practiced a lot of what I have written, but I do have fantasies and imagination. When I read a story here I am not concerned with who wrote it, as much as I am about whether it's well written. If I don't like the topic, I don't read it or I click out of it. There are times, though, that even though I'm not as comfortable with the topic, I will read it because of the writer. There are several writers who have contributed to this thread, that I will continue to read, even if their genres are not always my cup of tea.

 

Here is a link to the JMiller page: http://stories.xnxx.com/profile9776/jmiller. He wrote the End of the World stories. Before you read them; a word of caution - the sex comes a little later after development of the world situation. To me, this is a very enjoyable series that I've read probably 5 times. Enjoy.

 

Then break the stereotype and set a new standard!

 

Yes Lots of the same old same old.

 

Same here! I got really sick of it and thus wrote my own. Its so hard to find a good rape or even incest story with sufficient realism. Alot of small girls were portrayed as sluts... That's ridiculous. And even the seducing part is lousy. I find innocent and realistic actions better. Also i agree with the point of view that reading rape etc does suppress your actual need to do so as you have already in a sense experienced it. But the story must be good. But very few are. And even fewer are rape. Sad for rape story lovers like me.