Did I miss something along the way? I have always treated women verry special. I would show and tell them how i feel. I have never abused them mental or physical. I do spoil them when i can. I am not the best looking man, and far from ugly. I got a job, a ride and a place to live. So why is it women will jump ship to be with a man who don't have a pot to piss in. No job, no car and no place to live. They get the shit slap out of them and get treated like shit. Yet most of the women are just happy as hell. Do I need to change the way I treat woman inorder to make them happy? Women I would like some of your input, as well as you men.

 

Sweetie, don't change a thing! If the stupid bitches don't know a good thing when they've got it, it's not your fault. Keep looking! You will find the right lady. If your ever in Oz, come and see me, I'll treat you so fine you wont want to go home

 

I've said this before somewhere else... I forget precisely where.

However... here's the big, big secret, horneydick56.

Nice guys are mind-numbingly boring. No, really. It's true. You are utterly, utterly predictable. One can pinpoint your reactions with almost total accuracy, because you do the same thing every time.

Not only that, but 99% of the time, nice guys are doormats, too. Complete doormats.

Get a little stroppy. Make your points like you're prepared to fight for them. Occasionally, it's ok to put your foot down, strop, and have your own way. Occasionally, it's ok to say 'no, actually, I don't want to do that', or 'actually, I'll be late home tonight because I'm having a drink with the boys from work'.

Nice guys have no personality. You're suffocating and sycophantic and bland. Dangerous guys who live a little more roughly, a little more day to day - they have something in their life to keep them intersting. They have personality, they have unpredictability.

No woman wants a man who'll treat her like she's made of candyfloss, all day, everyday.

 

That post was complete rubbish. Nice guys and doormats are different. Being respectful and walked on are seperate by miles. There are women who realize what is going on. They will find you. Keep on.

 

Nice guys and door mats are very different animals.A door mat is a sure turn off to almost every woman.If you have an attitude of confidence and independance you will attract more women.Women...much like men enjoy the chase.Its a bit like catching a cat.If you chce a cat it will run from you...if you sit still and dangle a string in front of it the cat will almost always chase the string...right into your trap.You dont have to be a jerk...just be your own person and not dependant uppon others for self realization.If you seem like a lost puppy in need of someone to take care of you women tend to look at you as weak and defenseless...men prefer a man who can take care of himself and doesnt "need" her.I have had better luck ignoring women and letting them come to me that trying to chase them.

 

Hey hornydick56, message me and we can talk about it. I had a nice guy years ago and was too young to appreciate it. I would appreciate the hell out of you. x_orion did hit on a few truths. Some people worry about being too proper all of the time. Day in and day out. I love security and being treated good. Don't get me wrong. But I love for a man to come up behind me and bend me over the table for a little pre-dinner snack. Like I said, look me up and we can talk more about this if you would like. xoxo. Don't change just add a little to your "game" to spice things up.

 

All I've been able to figure out about women in 31 yrs. is this. The one's that are worth it, want a respectful man that's confident. A lot of guys, as I have also, lose the confidence trying to by so respectful. I'm sure not all women are like this, but all the women I've ever been with were. It's a fine line though, between being confident and just a pompous ass, I think. Hope this helps.

 

No. Really, it wasn't.

Read between the lines. The guy is clearly a suffocating, fawning doormat.

 

On this one you may be right.

 

I'm pretty sure I am, to be honest.

 

Orion, do you ever have anything nice to say to people?

I think general consensus here is right. You just need to take a step back sometimes. The old saying "Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen" comes to mind. You need to be a little random in life, whether it be with friends, with women or just in general. Giving your lady a rose every saturday gets boring.
If you are walking a long a pathway together and you see some nice flowers, pick them and thread them through her hair and tell her she looks beautiful. Or, if you see a piece of jewlerry you think she will really like, then buy it. But, doing this constantly is boring.
As has also been said, sometimes you need to take control. Tell her you want to go out, Tell her what you want for dinner on your anniversary on occasion. Take the initiative and take her when she least expects it.
Make her want to please you to get her rewards. Simple as that. Be nice. But make it worth something. Not necessarily bribing, because there should be random kindness for the sake of itself too.

 

Sometimes.

Usually when people aren't being a clueless waste of oxygen and are speaking sense - as you are.

Hello there.

 

There is such a thing as too nice.

I don't want my man to be a doormat.

 

"treat a girl like dirt, she'll stick to you like mud".............seems to be true in a lot of cases.....

 

Lol

Guys who say they are nice guys and complain women don't like nice guys are usually clingy and needy and women can sense that a mile away. What the so called "bad boys" have is confidence and there is nothing sexier then a confident man.