Was resurrected again? Holy crap how about I just omit ages entirely from all stories we can just describbe them as young and younger

 

Good idea. And let's hope people don't go jumping to conclusions just because someone mentions "umbilical cord." :excited:

 

Define "Evil" please. It's so difficult to legislate morality without rock-solid definitions.

 

Actually Tom, ther are already racist stories here. Ever single "inter-racial", "black", "Latina" or "asian" story is subtly racist BECAUSE it focuses in part on the physical characteristics or cultural stereotypes of it's subject. That's not really a bad thing, it's just life. As humans we are both attracted to and repelled by the strange and exotic. That includes sexually.

 

If you don't care for anyone else's opinion on the subject why should anyone care for your opinion.It's been proven repeatedly both in climicil studies and through offender interviews, that pornography (no matter what the sort) does NOT inspire lust, but extinguishes it. Pedophiles are not bad people, they're broken people. A true pedophile, what's called a Preferential Offender, is not attracted to adults, and is either incapable of having intimate relations with them, or can, but has difficulty maintaining a relationship with an adult.

The freedom of speech guarantees just that, the right to say, and write, anything that is not actually a crime. Erotic FICTION is not a crime. A story that details strategems on the abduction, seduction or sequestering of children is a crime. Advocating that adults should have sex with children IS a crime, but a work of art in which no real people are involved depicting the act is just that, a work of art.

As for a moral responsibility, The only moral responsibility I have in this situation is to monitor my kid's internet usage so as to safeguard them from age inappropriate material. This site is exclusively for the use of adults. Children accessing the site have violated the law, which you as their parent, bear the responsibility of. to be clear, you have a moral and legal responsibility to monitor your kid's internet usage.

And yeah, there are stories of physically abusive relationships posted here. Go read a random sampling of the Rape and Non-Consent categories. It's not a how-to manual, it's a work of fiction. It's assumed that as an adult, you can tell the difference.

 

Rape and pedophelia is about power (i.e. violence), not sex. Castration merely causes the offender to move on to using objects, rather than a penis (not that only men are pedophiles). The only way to deter violence is with violence. You don't castrate a rapist, you kill them.

 

Sadly that depends on what state-territory or regional jurisdiction one resides in, as possession of fictional materials of an adult nature can be grounds for prosecution.

Not siding either way on the fence about this issue, just a cautionary word about making certain the space between one's ears is truly a free and unfettered property.

 

this thread needs to be re-interred

when the noobs start reading in it and respond to comments 3 years old, it goes beyond logic because those comment makers are no longer monitoring the conversation.

It gets real bad when they fail to quote what they are commenting on because then NOBODY knows where the new comment came from.

 

I don't care for underaged kids being either raped, or 'taught' by an elder, or father, uncle, etc.....
I know that these kinds of stories excite pedophiles.

What I DO enjoy reading is 'underage' participants of about the same age discovering sex and enjoying it for the first time.
I enjoyed naughty times with other kids my age but if somebody older tried to get involved it took away the 'fun'....

So I hope I'm not being hypocritical but those are stories enjoy reading.
Unfortunately, many have been deleted....
Perhaps those excite the pedophiles too.....dammit....

 

Stop necro-posting! Last post before yours, Trib, was just over a year ago! Gawds, when will people learn to look at last post dates before they bring up old posts? Unfortunately, there's nothing we can go now. Rule here is 18+ for sexually active characters. Where were you when the rules were being changed a few months ago, eh? Yeah, it stifles freedom of speech, but there are some rather serious legal implications if a site actively promotes anything sexual with anyone under the age of 18.

 

This is not true at all. Where did you come up with it? Even priggish Lush allows 16, and they haven't been locked up so far (more's the pity lol). You know 12 years old is legal to actually DO in real life in, for example, Arizona and Canada? 12 x 14. 16 is the age of consent in MOST US states and Europe, and lower in many situations.

So much nonsense gets spouted about this subject. Nophest obviously can't think straight about it either - I can only guess he's trying to line up advertising then with the banner saw all his stats nosedive defeating the object. But well done mods, who've quietly dropped the issue, for the time being at least. Especially well done those who've said and done nothing. You run the site.

 

Can we just let this issue drop for good: the site owners set the rules, that settles the matter once and for all.

 

I would comment on making note of the necro posters and dealing with them directly (or not dealing with them at all, as the case may be)

 

No matter how morally wrong some people may find this, there's definitely a clear winner here. Even so it is unlikely to change due to the restrictions in Law anyway. Which is a shame tbh

 

For 27 posts and no stories , you sure are an interested party! I haven't responded to you, because I don't know who you really are, but I just want to say: yes, L**h allows sixteen, but they are so priggish (good word) that they don't allow real plots.

It's sort of like the joke about Allah's heaven: the good news is that you get 72 virgins; the bad news is that they stay that way.

 

I am one of those who believe all writers should be free to write about whatever they wish.

I stress that if they post stories on this board that they be properly tagged so I, and others, can avoid stories with unsuitable subjects, based on those tags.

As an avid reader, I will read ALMOST any story, regardless of subject. Those that I avoid are not necessarily those that others may avoid.

Some stories I may avoid because the subject doesn't strike me as interesting, or perhaps I am not in a mood to read such stories - such is the case with stories involving torture, rape, mutilation, gay, straight, animals, lesbians, moms, dad, flogging, water sports, etc.

And yet there are many stories that I do enjoy, which don't follow any predefined tastes simply because I want to see what THIS new writer has done with a tired, old cliche subject. I may even read some story even if it involves those subjects I listed above, if the subject or plot lines seem interesting. But as it happens I sometimes do enjoy reading stories with young characters, simply because I can relate to them as though I was reading about my own experiences at "that" age.

I don't believe any stories should be banned, or character ages restricted in any way. Stories are hard enough to write without any external restrictions being imposed. Putting restrictions on stories is simply binding the writers creativity and distorts the storytelling.

Where would we be if Mark twain was told he couldn't write stories of children having asdventures with adults? Huckleberry Finn would not be the same story if it was about the adventures of two adults who rode down the Mississippi River and painted fences, together. Or Kurt Vonnegut and his story "Catcher in the Rye".

That is the kind of changes such restrictions have on stories.

And I for one am opposed to ANY restrictions on writers.

 

I think we should be able to write what we want. Esp if they are true stories

 

First of all, J.D. Salinger wrote Catcher in the Rye.

Second, did Mark Twain write about adults butt fucking children, because if he did, I missed that part.

So you and some others think it's okay for stories about fucking three year olds, torturing them, etc. Okay, just wanted to make sure that we were clear on that, so all the readers of this thread understand exactly what kinda' people you are. Thanks for clarifying.

 

im new here.. my first post actually, but this is a topic ive put alot of thought into and im curious to see the reaction here.. i think the fascination comes from the fact that biologically a female body is ready to have sex at puberty and the same goes for males. only in the last century has western society invented the random idea that at 18 you become magically advanced.. if adulthood and sexual maturity go hand in hand then adulthood starts at puberty. my point being that i believe the fascination with "underage" stories, porn etc is essentially an atavistic resurgence.

 

Happy to oblige. http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2005to2009/2009-pornography-acceptance-crime.html Title: Pornography, Public Acceptance and Sex Related Crime: A Review Published in: International Journal of Law and Psychiatry 32 (2009) 304-314; corrected with Corrigendum IJLP 33 (2010) 197-199