It does but it agreed a treaty on an issue in which it didn't have jurisdiction on in Scotland. In terms of relevance Libya may as well have concluded the Prisoner Transfer Agreement with France.

 

Which would all sound very convincing if the British government had any say in the decision to release, alas for your theory, they didn't.

 

The Cunt should of been hanged 20 years ago, for what his gang did

 

Well, as long as they don't cook for you....

 

Haggis, Neeps and deep fried Mars Bars are not a good diet.:excited:

 

Neither are fish and chips, bangers, immolated bacon, eggs fried hard as a rock....

 

lmao, v v nice. These ppl cant get it into their heads that he was released by the Scottish govt, which had nothing to do with Whitehall.

 

Not an American criticising someone else's dietary habits, surely not?

 

Not all Americans hang out full time at the local McDonalds.

They're usually at Starbucks.

 

There is a lot about this case that doesnt add up. Why was he released? Why was there no retrial? Is there a connection with BP? Is an oil agreement involved? Is the british government involved? Is Magrahi innocent?

I think out of all these questions, the one answer we know with a certain amount of accuracy, is that Magrahi is innocent.

If there is an oil deal involved, I am not sure what the US are complaining about. How many people have been killed in Iraq for oil? Certainly more than Magrahi is accused of. The words pot, kettle and black come to mind.

 

That's what makes it so easy to believe.

 

You do have a point.

However I feel, as with all things of this nature, the truth will not come out. Certainly not in the next 20 years or so.

 

How do we know that Magrahi is innocent? That's one aspect of this issue I haven't heard much about.

But in my mind if we want to really find out what's going on I think we need to look back a little further. I would bet that the roots to Magrahi's release can actually be traced to the US taking Libya off the terror list claiming we can now trust Moammar Gadhafi.

I'm willing to bet there's oil stains on that decision and once it was made Gadhafi was in a position to negotiate with all parties. Even though I've been guilty of it myself, assuming that BP is actually British Petroleum is a huge error.

As we've seen in the Gulf of Mexico BP is as much a US company as a British one and since all the major oil companies invest in each other's projects they are much more the same than different.

Also we're talking about an international industry that freely admits bribing government officials and even entire governments is common practice.

I think the real issue here is that in the lust for the next big oil deal everyone involved ignored what a talented and erratic trouble maker Gadhafi really is and gave him at opportunity to be relevant again on the world stage.

 

We don't for certain. The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commision after a 3 year investigation concluded that were grounds to suspect a miscarriage of justice had occurred. His appeal was due to be heard when he was released on compassionate grounds. The main areas of concern were as follows

1. His lawyers claimed that vital documents, which emanated from the CIA and related to the Mebo timer that allegedly detonated the Lockerbie bomb, were withheld from the trial defence team.
2. Tony Gauci, chief prosecution witness at the trial, was alleged to have been paid $2 million for testifying against Megrahi.
3. Mebo's owner, Edwin Bollier, claimed that in 1991 the FBI offered him $4 million to testify that the timer fragment found near the scene of the crash was part of a Mebo MST-13 timer supplied to Libya.
4. Former employee of Mebo, Ulrich Lumpert, swore an affidavit in July 2007 that he had stolen a prototype MST-13 timer in 1989, and had handed it over to "a person officially investigating the Lockerbie case".

Even at the time of the original trial the UN observer could not believe Meghrahi was convicted on the evidence presented whilst his co accused was found not guilty on the same evidence. No one wanted the appeal to go ahead as it wouldhave been deeply embarrassing to the governments involved and the Scottish legal establishment should he have been successful.

 

Opps you may have me here. First, as a course of action and constant observation I always get nervous any time is see the letters CIA. There is far too much evidence of past wrong doing to not suspect them now.

Also I am apparently far more ignorant of the actual trial proceedings than I was aware. Which is of course my fault because I didn't look.

I also know that law enforcement will frame individuals in some instances. I've seen that myself.

You could be right. The whole thing might not have anything to do with oil and everything to do with keeping someone's mouth shut in open court.

 

thanks :laughing:

 

Did the Obama administration push for Lockerbie bomber’s release?


Also, it shows that the Obama administration lied about being surprised by Megrahi’s release. They knew it was coming, and while they may have been surprised that he went to Libya, the White House knew Scotland was going to spring Megrahi one way or the other.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/...istration-push-for-lockerbie-bombers-release/


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Obama Admin Approved Lockerbie Bomber Release

[FONT=times new roman,times]Barack Obama[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] is under growing pressure to release a letter that reveals the US grudgingly supported freeing the Lockerbie bomber on compassionate grounds.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]The letter was sent to Scottish ministers by a senior diplomat at the US embassy in London last August, eight days before [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Abdelbaset al-Megrahi[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] was released from prison because he was dying from inoperable prostate cancer.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Obama's administration has refused to allow publication of the letter, in which the US says allowing Megrahi to live at home in [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Scotland[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] would be "far preferable" to sending him back to Libya under the prisoner transfer deal brokered by former prime minister Tony Blair in 2007.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Although Megrahi was allowed to go home to die in Tripoli, Scottish officials believe this undermines Obama's vigorous criticisms of the decision to free Megrahi earlier this month, when he said he was left "surprised, disappointed and angry" by the Libyan's release. David Cameron said he and Obama were in "violent agreement" that freeing Megrahi was a bad decision.[/FONT]
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[FONT=times new roman,times] [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Actually, I thought the Guardian story today was old news. I [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]wrote about this[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] last year. [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Twice[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times].

Richard Baehr adds: It looks like, to use a Kohn Kerryism, Obama and BP were allies, before they were foes.
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Respect to you; takes a big man to admit; sometimes a failing of mine

 

So what?