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FAMILY CALLS 911 FOR HELP WITH SPECIAL NEEDS DAUGHTER, COPS SHOW UP AND SHOOT HER DEAD
Steve Watson | InfoWars.com

A family in California has been left reeling after their special needs daughter was shot dead by police following a 911 call for emergency medical assistance.
A ktvu report notes that neighbors suggested to reporters that Serrano was shot in the back by the deputy. The Sheriff’s department denies the allegation, but would not say where the teen was shot.

 

i just wonder if this idiot had been the son of a democrat if they would have made such a big deal about the political party of his father.

 

Shit no obama would have issued an executive gag order on the entire planet.

 

this is something I just read I know its over a year old but I think it still speaks true today as much as it did when it was written

[h=1]Columbine Survivor Pens Bold Open Letter to Obama Rejecting Gun Control: ‘Whose Side Are You On?’[/h] Feb. 20, 2013 10:10am Billy Hallowell
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Columbine survivor Evan Todd released an open letter to President Barack Obama on Wednesday in which he offers a point-by-point analysis of proposed firearms control initiatives, dismissing them as ineffective and dangerous to Americans’ rights.
He recently outlined why he fervently disagrees with the gun control policies that have been proposed in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. TheBlaze interviewed Todd earlier this week and subsequently detailed how his experience being shot back in 1999 has shaped his views on the issue.
The letter, which speaks directly to the president, covers a number of key facets in the gun control debate. On universal background checks, Todd expresses his fears that “universal registration can easily be used for universal confiscation.” Additionally, he says his belief that assault weapons bans are ineffective and argues that the first law did little to stop violence when it was in effect from 1994 until 2004; he cites Columbine as a prime example.
“It was during this time that I personally witnessed two fellow students murder twelve of my classmates and one teacher,” he writes. “The assault weapons ban did not deter these two murderers, nor did the other thirty-something laws that they broke.”
President Barack Obama uses a cell phone to call supporters during a visit to a local campaign office, Monday, Oct. 1, 2012 in Henderson, Nev. Credit: AP

Of particular note in the letter is the survivor’s insistence that Obama’s proposed regulations impede the rights of Americans and endanger them by capping magazine sizes and restricting the types of guns that are available to law-abiding citizens.
“Why would you prefer criminals to have the ability to out-gun law-abiding citizens?,” he asks the president in the text. “Whose side are you on?”


Read Todd’s open letter to Obama, below.
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Mr. President,
As a student who was shot and wounded during the Columbine massacre, I have a few thoughts on the current gun debate. In regards to your gun control initiatives:
Universal Background Checks
First, a universal background check will have many devastating effects. It will arguably have the opposite impact of what you propose. If adopted, criminals will know that they can not pass a background check legally, so they will resort to other avenues. With the conditions being set by this initiative, it will create a large black market for weapons and will support more criminal activity and funnel additional money into the hands of thugs, criminals, and people who will do harm to American citizens.
Second, universal background checks will create a huge bureaucracy that will cost an enormous amount of tax payers dollars and will straddle us with more debt. We cannot afford it now, let alone create another function of government that will have a huge monthly bill attached to it.
Third, is a universal background check system possible without universal gun registration? If so, please define it for us. Universal registration can easily be used for universal confiscation. I am not at all implying that you, sir, would try such a measure, but we do need to think about our actions through the lens of time.
It is not impossible to think that a tyrant, to the likes of Mao, Castro, Che, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and others, could possibly rise to power in America. It could be five, ten, twenty, or one hundred years from now — but future generations have the natural right to protect themselves from tyrannical government just as much as we currently do. It is safe to assume that this liberty that our forefathers secured has been a thorn in the side of would-be tyrants ever since the Second Amendment was adopted.
Ban on Military-Style Assault Weapons
The evidence is very clear pertaining to the inadequacies of the assault weapons ban. It had little to no effect when it was in place from 1994 until 2004. It was during this time that I personally witnessed two fellow students murder twelve of my classmates and one teacher. The assault weapons ban did not deter these two murderers, nor did the other thirty-something laws that they broke.
Gun ownership is at an all time high. And although tragedies like Columbine and Newtown are exploited by ideologues and special-interest lobbying groups, crime is at an all time low. The people have spoken. Gun store shelves have been emptied. Gun shows are breaking attendance records. Gun manufacturers are sold out and back ordered. Shortages on ammo and firearms are countrywide. The American people have spoken and are telling you that our Second Amendment shall not be infringed.
10-Round Limit for Magazines
Virginia Tech was the site of the deadliest school shooting in U.S. history. Seung-Hui Cho used two of the smallest caliber hand guns manufactured and a handful of ten round magazines. There are no substantial facts that prove that limited magazines would make any difference at all.
Second, this is just another law that endangers law-abiding citizens. I’ve heard you ask, “why does someone need 30 bullets to kill a deer?”
Let me ask you this: Why would you prefer criminals to have the ability to out-gun law-abiding citizens? Under this policy, criminals will still have their 30-round magazines, but the average American will not. Whose side are you on?
Lastly, when did they government get into the business of regulating “needs?” This is yet another example of government overreaching and straying from its intended purpose.
Selling to Criminals
Mr. President, these are your words: “And finally, Congress needs to help, rather than hinder, law enforcement as it does its job. We should get tougher on people who buy guns with the express purpose of turning around and selling them to criminals. And we should severely punish anybody who helps them do this.”
Why don’t we start with Eric Holder and thoroughly investigate the Fast and Furious program?
Furthermore, the vast majority of these mass murderers bought their weapons legally and jumped through all the hoops — because they were determined to murder. Adding more hoops and red tape will not stop these types of people. It doesn’t now — so what makes you think it will in the future? Criminals who cannot buy guns legally just resort to the black market.
Criminals and murderers will always find a way.
Critical Examination
Mr. President, in theory, your initiatives and proposals sound warm and fuzzy — but in reality they are far from what we need. Your initiatives seem to punish law-abiding American citizens and enable the murderers, thugs, and other lowlifes who wish to do harm to others.
Let me be clear: These ideas are the worst possible initiatives if you seriously care about saving lives and also upholding your oath of office. There is no dictate, law, or regulation that will stop bad things from happening — and you know that. Yet you continue to push the rhetoric. Why?
You said, “If we can save just one person it is worth it.” Well here are a few ideas that will save more that one individual:
First, forget all of your current initiatives and 23 purposed executive orders. They will do nothing more than impede law-abiding citizens and breach the intent of the Constitution. Each initiative steals freedom, grants more power to an already-overreaching government, and empowers and enables criminals to run amok.
Second, press Congress to repeal the “Gun Free Zone Act.” Don’t allow America’s teachers and students to be endangered one-day more. These parents and teachers have the natural right to defend themselves and not be looked at as criminals. There is no reason teachers must disarm themselves to perform their jobs. There is also no reason a parent or volunteer should be disarmed when they cross the school line.
This is your chance to correct history and restore liberty. This simple act of restoring freedom will deter would-be murderers and for those who try, they will be met with resistance.
Mr. President, do the right thing, restore freedom, and save lives. Show the American people that you stand with them and not with thugs and criminals.
Respectfully,
Severely Concerned Citizen, Evan M. Todd
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He was one of the students shot in 99 at Columbine

 

And he thinks that gives him the right to address the president on things like (as magic4589 calls it) our "precious constitution"? The very person who made it a point of studying it in the first place so he could find so many ways to ignore, bypass, and undermine it? Wow, that's some balls, huh?

 

You forget, if the guy were a democrat this would not been an issue as we all know democrats all hate guns so much that we would never consider the option of owning one.

Or maybe you're just stuck on stupid.

 

By this logic we should eliminate pretty much all laws as our laws against murder do not stop all murders, banks still get robbed, and people still drive faster than the posted limit and while drunk, too...

Just another reason the logic of the gun advocates is impenetrable... It's moronic.

 

Good idea. Survival of the fittest. We have enough of the people who cannot take care of themselves.
Time to clean house and start over. People who hate guns and would not have one yet call people who have guns to save them can root hog or die.

 

The majority of those deaths were cops killing citizens, look it up.

 

I really doubt that is the case.

I have long realised that no one can have a rational debate about gun ownership with Americans; the positions are just too polarised.

Given that a fair number of contributors to this forum uphold the right to bear arms, I like to know how many of them have actually used them to protect themselves. Oh, and I am a gun-owner. But I'd never advocate carrying a .308 for self-defence; apart from the fact our police would frown upon it.

 

In 2010, 8 American civilians, worldwide, were killed by terrorists.

In 2010, 32,855 Americans, in America, were killed with cars.

One million moms and dads against cars


Just sayin, ya know.

 

This is the dumbest reason for gun rights to be revoked I have ever seen. There are tons of dangerous items people kill themselves or others with by accident. Does that mean we should outlaw them? For example: cars, machinery, swimming pools, medications, dogs etc, etc? Someone being irresponsible with a gun and killing themselves or others does not mean you revoke that privilege from responsible citizens.

Guns aren't even on the list for the top five causes of accidental death. You really aught to outlaw driving, medication, walking Ifalls), cooking (fires), and small toys (choking) first!

 

I have used my guns to protect myself several times. I have used my guns to protect others several times.
It must be very hard for people in other countries to understand how important the right to bear arms is to Americans.
We have used our guns to protect ourselves and to start this country. Without the right to bear arms there would not be a United States.

 

If you have a gun and it is ruled an accidental death, you probably left your gun where a four year old could find it. The only accidents I've seen with a gun were those morons that shot themselves in the dick with their girlfriends pink gun and the minors who find their parents guns.

Also, no one is suggesting we take your toys that go bang from you.

 

Nice 3rd grade reply to asking a simpel question

 

Show me one point in this guys letter thats wrong the gun laws on the books at that time did not help and as he said nor did the other 30 plus laws they broke.

Bitch moan and grone all you want if someone wants to kill someone else their going to do it with a gun a car knife a bomb if they want someone dead their going to kill them or try pretty damn hard to do it.

and as for another post from someone else yes i have used my weapon to save mine and others lifes

 

How many of them deaths were by accedent or someone offing themselfs or getting the cops to do it for them?

How many were someone protecting themselfs or cops killing bad guys

 

Sorry my sarcasm was wasted on your simplistic mind....

 

Murder laws say you shouldn't do it, and yet it still happens. Bank robberies still happen despite it being illegal. Rape still occurs despite it being a crime.

Nice to see you missed the point completely.

Good for you. You are in the minority.