Ok so, you're on a sex/porn site so it's bound to happen that you're gonna cum across someone who likes something you don't. Personally, I don't get or do the whole bathroom stuff so I wouldn't read about it, comment on it or want to chat about it.

What I don't get is why people go around posting crappy comments or being downright nasty (and not in the good way just because they don't like something. If you're such an uptight square, WTF are you doing on a porn site in the first place????

 

It's very simple, because not all fetishes are in fact fetishes. Some people go over the line and write things that are just disturbing and look like written by someone completely insane.

 

How can a fetish in fact not be a fetish? That doesn't make any sense. A fetish can be anything to a person, however common or uncommon. I'm not trying to be rude but if you could help me understand.

 

Well then you can say pedophilia is just a fetish. And everyone should understand the person that is talking about having sex with children even if that's how you say 'uncommon'.

 

It is a fetish, a fetish that can be illegal depending on how it is approached. If you fantasize about it in your head it's still a fetish and not illegal. Same as if you read stories, however if one distributes child pornography or has sex with a child it's still a fetish but now it's illegal. Not everything is so black and white is all I'm trying to say.

 

First of all pedophilia is not fetish, it's psychiatric disorder. Not to mention it is criminal offence. So therefore describing it just as a fetish is understatement and that why some people 'get so uptight'...

Very simple really.

 

I basically just said the same thing before. It falls into both categories. Why can't a fetish also be a psychiatric disorder? And like I was saying it is a criminal offense if you actually perform the act. Fantasizing about it and/or reading about it is not. That's like saying anyone who's ever fantasized about killing another person is automatically condemned to a life of imprisonment.

 

Not to defend pedophilia, but how are you distinguishing between a fetish and a psychiatric disorder? Is it simply that anything the majority doesn't approve of is a disorder and anything that's just a little kinky is a fetish?

For example: bondage and s & m is not considered a disorder, it's just a little kinky. But there are people on this forum who get sexual pleasure from the idea of being cooked, carved like a thanksgiving turkey and eaten alive. Is that a disorder?

My opinion is that having the desire to do something illegal does not constitute a psychiatric disorder, no matter how distasteful I may find that desire. Whether it's role playing that your legal age partner is really your underage daughter or pretending your getting gang banged by a 1% biker club, as long as everyone is legal and consenting, it's just kinky.

Not being able to stop yourself from engaging in activities that harm others and yourself is a disorder. Whether it's killing and eating someone for sex or choking yourself to death while you masturbate, if you can't control yourself, it's a disorder.

 

I couldn't have put it better myself.

 

I don't, people that are experts are deciding what is disorder and what is not. And pedophilia unfortunately for all those that say it's fetish, it is not. And probably those that think about it or imagining that will eventually commit criminal offence.

Further, not all psychiatric disorders are offences because in some instance there are no victims, such in coprophilia.

And your stance 'if you don't do something then you don't have problem' is not correct at all. I'll take pedophilia as an example again, it is not sexual intercourse between adult and child that is only pedophilia. It's sexual attraction towards children. And then you can't say it's OK, they just think about it and fantasize about it.

Those people should seek medical and professional help sooner than later.

 

Yes you are defending pedophilia. You are bringing up arguments to support it, if that's not defending it, I don't know what is. You along with other pedophiles have found a sanctuary in this site thanks to the tolerance of the moderators.

There is a very clear definition, a psychiatric disorder is defined as such by the appropriate bodies or medical experts and not by the "majority" as you put it. I am very certain the majority does not engage in S&M however it is clearly not a psychiatric disorder and the main reason for that IMO is simply because there are no real victims.

Of course in your pedophile opinion it is perfectly acceptable to desire something illegal. After all if you realized it was wrong you would probably not fantasize about little kids. See that part in bold you just brought up. Read that again..... I will wait.... Read it again.... and again..... Legal and Consenting... No victims there. Kids are neither Legal or Consenting, and always the victims.

Exactly... that is why pedophilia is a disorder. Having your wife gangfucked in a biker's club is controlable by both parties and consenting for all participants.. there are no disorders there..

Frankly this tolerance of pedophilia in this site is sickening. I would urge the moderators to intervene and remove the pedophiles here and these nasty threads. I have said it before, if the site is unable to self-regulate then reporting it and the said members to the authorities is in order.

 

I stopped reading you after that. You obviously didn't read everything I said or you would have seen where I labeled it distasteful. I am not a pedophile, nor do I support pedophilia in any way. My point, which you also missed, was that people who like to PRETEND they are doing something taboo and immoral, but never actually commit the act, have a fetish, not a mental defect.

And it's not about pedophilia, this is about people getting upset because they are disgusted by things that others find exciting. You guys just picked pedophilia as an extreme position to sidetrack the entire discussion.

 

"Coprophilia is a sexual fetish"

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophilia

That's a fetish, by definition, not a disorder.

 

So if I'm thinking about doing something that is illegal then I need help? I thought about what it would be like to rob a bank! Have all that money. Not that I ever would but just think how life would be with all that money. I also thought about what it would be like to blow about with a missile that just cut me off in traffic because he/she thinks where they are going is more important then where I'm going. I would not do it because that is illegal.

Of cause legal and illegal is sometimes just a signature apart. Pot was once legal and not it is not, except for medical use. Lickher (sorry I mean liquor) was legal, then illegal, then legal again. Dancing on Sundays was once (and may still be in your area, you'd have to check that law books) and now it's legal. Some places may have holding hands and kissing in public as illegal.

The only thing in life that is truly illegal is getting caught.

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I like my women like I like my coffee, cold and bitter.

 

I guess to me there's a difference between what a person fantasizes - and what they actually do. I mean, we all have fetishes we eventually want to try or go out of our way to satisfy - but I'm sure most people also fantasize about things, like when they masturbate or something, that they would NEVER do in reality. So I guess what I was trying to say is that, so long as someone doesn't ACT on something that's totally not ok, then is it so bad if they fantasize about it? I'm asking because I really would like to know what other people think about it.

 

Hear hear!

 

We as a human race tend to kill, destroy, dislike, hate, make fun of anything that we dont understand or disprove of.
We are not perfect and should never judge another. If you dont care for what is written or shown dont read or look. Just dont judge. You have have something that someone will not approve of that you like or enjoy.

 

to elaborate on this. everyone has their own personal line, and often forget that other peoples lines might be further away than their own.

it's easy to cross another person's "WTF?!" boundary without realising it.

 

Pedophilia is a crime because it causes emotional and physical damage to small children ( and when i say pedo i dont mean "nearly 18" i mean, a CHILD)

Pedo stories or fantasies are fine, only complaints i make are the same i make with ANY thread that we see several times a day...wtf condense and stop spamming it everywhere.

Pedo porn however is a HUGE crime and i think everyone should agree that if you just think and dream, it is you controlling your fetish and not harming a child, however, if that porn is made by a child, you are hurting, exploiting and damaging the child, as is anyone else watching, and should be held accountable for this child. The actions the porns record hurt the child, that is unacceptable.

 

My 2 cents:


• Every time someone starts one of these types of threads everyone turns it around to be ALL about pedophilia. Its rather annoying.

• Pedophilia is WRONG, it does NOT matter if your thinking about it, doing it, reading about it, writing about it, watching porn, or fantasizing about it. IT IS WRONG. PERIOD. That's very much a personal stand point and also a LEGAL stand point. Many here will try to argue that "just thinking about it" is okay, want to see how really okay that is? Tell a therapist, cop, pastor, friend, relative, or even hey a stranger on the street and watch the revulsion roll across their face. Then be prepared to be contacted by the police who will then have the right to search your things. Which they can legally do. Trust me, I know an old friends house got searched a few months back for this all because someone made a report that he had child porn on his cell phone. /end rant.

• Pedophilia is NOT just children below the age of 16. If your 40 and your sitting out by the high school watching the 14 year old freshman come and go, yep your a pedophile and a creeper. Neither of those are attractive. Yuck. Move on, find someone your own age and stop freaking people out.

• Yes this is a porn site, yes this place has something to offend EVERYONE however, no those people do not have to comment on these things. A major reason why people will see something they don't like and then leave these snide/mean/nasty/rude/etc etc, comments is because, simply put, it makes them feel better!! They run across an animal porn thread, look over at fido, feefy, spot, spotette, or wtfe and think "Omg that poor animal" so they make up something mean and shitty to say so that when they log off they can pat themselves on the back and say attaboy/girl.

•The censoring of the pedo stories was an amazing decision, albeit a self preservation one, of the Mod Gods to make. HOWEVER, they should also censor anything else illegal as well since their reasoning is that they only did it because its illegal. So are a few others on here.... Hint Hint Mod Gods!

•If you come across a thread that you like containing the materials that most do not like or find offensive and you happen upon one those mean,snide, shitty comments I mentioned above: IGNORE IT AND MOVE ON. For that is EXACTLY what you ask of the rest of us isn't it? To simply look the other way when we come across something we don't like. How about you do the exact same thing when you find that one of the members of the masses has decided not to look the other way. Then that person gets to give themselves the attaboy/girl back pat for standing up against it and you get to continue on uninterrupted with your smut. Everyone wins.